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I’m not sure that is any better than the teams that Houston built around him.
Yes, it is, tbh.
I’m not sure that is any better than the teams that Houston built around him.
The fact that Pop would have them play actual team ball instead of one on one ball everysingle time down the floor would automatically make them better.
I mean, if by winning you mean getting hyped only to lose predictably each time, yes.
But Harden ball isn't team ball. It's basically the opposite of that.
Yeah, everybody would lose "predictably" against the best team in history. The fact that the Rockets were so close to beating them says a lot, tbh.
The best Harden ball is being a pick and roll Master. That's winning ball, tbh.
And they clearly would've beaten the Warriors had CP3 not gotten injured.
It's not, unless you're basically just saying running PnRs and taking the Harden part out of it.
You do know that that wasn't the only year Harden played, right? Even if they would've gotten past the Warriors that season, that doesn't excuse him losing to all those other teams. Those are the predictable losses, because Harden ball is a ty style of play that falls apart when the other team can gameplan and Houston can't shoot at unsustainably levels from three.
Harden's Rockets have been a perennial contender on the Western Conference. That's 'cause Harden plays a winning brand of basketball, unlike guys like Westbrook, Aldridge, DeRozan, etc.
yes, that rockets team was playing mightily. they would've swept the cavs with one eye closed.
Full stop: No they haven't been. They only were during Paul's two years.
How many times have Harden's Rockets loss a series were they were favoured coming in?
This feels like an irrelevant question. If they were favored and lost, that's an indictment of Harden ball. If they were rarely favored, that's an indictment against the belief that Harden made the Rockets a contender for more than just the two years.
Since the 2013/14 season they have been winning around 55 games and making it far in the playoffs every year except in 2016
So...?
No, it's just an indicament that the Western Conference has had some pretty damn elite teams. Since Harden got to the Rockets, they have become a top 5 team in the league. That speaks of the impact that Harden's style of play has on winning, tbh.
#winningball
You spent the better part of the last three years trying to say that Aldridge and his 8th seeds, one and done, teams were winning ball and you dimiss Harden's Rockets?
Unlike you, I don't think a random number proves my point. Harden ball wasn't winning ball specifically because it would fail Houston repeatedly, to the point that even when the Rockets had good records, they were not contenders. This past season is an obvious example of Houston having basically no chance of winning a le by probably being counted as a contender in your book. Harden ball specifically is prone to losing against inferior compe ion since you can gameplan around it and since Harden himself has crazy meltdowns to seal losses. Aldridge ball was winning ball because it let the Spurs play above their talent level two years in a row. Unfortunately for Aldridge, the Spurs have never adequately supported Aldridge ball when it comes to personnel. The Rockets basically got Harden anything he wanted and built an offensive system around him. It's unambiguous that Harden's been the focus of the Rockets' offense in every one of their many failures with him. That's not the case with Aldridge.#winningball
You spent the better part of the last three years trying to say that Aldridge and his 8th seeds, one and done, teams were winning ball and you dimiss Harden's Rockets?
So let me get this straight, you are telling me, in the year 2020, that Aldridge's style of play is more conductive to winning than Harden's?
Yeah. Of course, LMA is old now. But if he were in his prime, definitely. Harden ball isn't winning ball. It's like thinking Russ ball in winning ball. How you could believe a team with both of those balls at the same time were a contender is beyond me.So let me get this straight, you are telling me, in the year 2020, that Aldridge's style of play is more conductive to winning than Harden's?
I didn't think last year's Rockets were contenders, tbh. Specifically because of Westbrook. Comparing Westbrook and Harden is very ignorant, tbh. Their efficiency levels couldn't be more apart.
And lol at prime Aldridge being more impactful than Harden. When did Aldridge manage to lead a team as good and for as much time as Harden did?
I think you're issue is that you seem to think Harden's efficiency is what makes his style of play winning ball.
I mean, Aldridge's winning percentage since 2013-2014 is only a point off Harden's. I know you're going to chalk that up to Lillard and Leonard. But doing that misses the point that Harden has always had good players around him too. Morey and MDA did way more to build around Harden than the Spurs did for Aldridge. The Spurs haven't traded a first-rounder for a vet the whole time LMA's been on the roster. That's cool for getting some okay young players. But other GMs might've prioritized making a roster that fit LMA's strengths instead of almost instantly telling him to change his game and then not bringing in any complimentary vets beyond Gay.And lol at prime Aldridge being more impactful than Harden. When did Aldridge manage to lead a team as good and for as much time as Harden did?
When did Aldridge manage to lead a team as good as the best Rockets teams Harden led? It's a simple question, tbh.
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