Page 11 of 13 FirstFirst ... 78910111213 LastLast
Results 251 to 275 of 314
  1. #251
    Veteran Dejounte's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    15,644
    More knowledgeable lmao. That's all you can go back to. Go walk off again with your tail between your legs. If they draft Vassell/Bey, I'll support them like any other prospect. The difference is, you're still going to be stuck in your miserable loop.

  2. #252
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    9,195
    If we drafting 11 I want Smith he has some dog in him and I like his at ude plus I think he would fit in well with the other young kids we got.

  3. #253
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    110
    He is a free agent next year as the Suns declined his third year option. It sometimes takes big men time to develop. He seems like a career backup but he is still young.

  4. #254
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    He’d be just another Trey Lyles, another guy with talent, but no drive.

  5. #255
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    29,455
    Fascinating to scan old threads like these. Not calling anyone out, but the way folks fall in love with dubious prospects just shows what a tossup this stuff is. Killian Hayes is mentioned, who has few actual skills for his position and a terrible shooting percentage. Pokusevski was a guy many were infatuated with, but already his minutes have dipped incredibly and he's still one of the worst shooters I've ever seen.

    I actually believe more in Jalen Smith now than I did during the draft. I think he has some decent skills to build on. Depends on if he falls to a team who will invest in him, but I still see a future there. Phoenix is just incredibly cheap.

  6. #256
    Veteran mo7888's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Post Count
    6,909
    It lowers his value in any potential trade. I'd still take him and Saric for Thad and Drew if they give us a good 1st with it.

  7. #257
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,246
    It lowers his value in any potential trade. I'd still take him and Saric for Thad and Drew if they give us a good 1st with it.
    Yup, all about the pick tho.

  8. #258
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Thank goodness sa didn’t trade for him and injured Saric lol. If they give a first? Sure.

  9. #259
    Every game is game 1 Seventyniner's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    10,608
    Trading for Jalen Smith is zero risk because he's off the books next summer anyway, but I can't view him as anything more than a very marginally positive asset at this point; maybe the Spurs could make a useful player out of him but that shouldn't be viewed as the base case.

    Saric's dead money next year means the Suns would have to attach at least a good first for the Spurs to consider sending them a player with positive value like Young, along with having to clear yet another roster spot.

  10. #260
    OH YOU LIKE IT!!! slick'81's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    18,493
    Lol alot peeps wanted that ty suns deal

  11. #261
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,911
    The fact that he isn't playing for the Suns doesn't particularly mean much to me. Of course it could mean that he sucks, OR it could also mean that he is young and they are in win now mode and don't want to squander any of CP3's last moments on developing a young player.

    He played great in Summer League. In his brief opportunity in preseason had another solid game. Local sportswriters assumed he would be in the rotation based on this improvement, or at least given a chance.

    So to me it's more of an unknown then any proven problem with him as a player.

    If someone sees something that suggests otherwise, that would be good to know.

  12. #262
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    The fact that he isn't playing for the Suns doesn't particularly mean much to me. Of course it could mean that he sucks, OR it could also mean that he is young and they are in win now mode and don't want to squander any of CP3's last moments on developing a young player.

    He played great in Summer League. In his brief opportunity in preseason had another solid game. Local sportswriters assumed he would be in the rotation based on this improvement, or at least given a chance.

    So to me it's more of an unknown then any proven problem with him as a player.

    If someone sees something that suggests otherwise, that would be good to know.
    Top ten pick not in the rotation. Inexpensive option not picked up. Do the math.

  13. #263
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,911
    I know you want to lecture others, but you don’t really have an answer. It’s a reasonable speculation but then they let Ayton hang as well. To me it speaks more to unknown, weird issues in general.

  14. #264
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    I know you want to lecture others, but you don’t really have an answer. It’s a reasonable speculation but then they let Ayton hang as well. To me it speaks more to unknown, weird issues in general.
    I just use Occam’s razor a lot.

    All other things being equal, the simplest, least variable explanation is usually right.

    People, especially in todays Disinformation Society, have a way of over complicating things, instead of just seeing what’s right in front of them. You can come up with any number of theories, but I just see him not playing, and the team that drafted him #10 overall a little over a year ago refused to pick up an option that was about HALF of the mid level, and it’s just not really a reach to say he sucks. I don’t care what he did in SL. No one there cares about anything but scoring, certainly not defense. PHO also didn’t hang Ayton out to dry. They couldn’t reach a common salary number, but he’s still restricted next summer, and they can match.

  15. #265
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    5,000
    I still wouldn't mind having him.

  16. #266
    OH YOU LIKE IT!!! slick'81's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    18,493
    We have enough bigs. Why are we obsessing about this one?!

  17. #267
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Post Count
    2,371
    He got bounced around by summer league guards, does not have the strength to have a position on the court. He has those narrow hips, NBA teams usually can fix mechanical issues in the first year.

  18. #268
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,911
    I just use Occam’s razor a lot.

    All other things being equal, the simplest, least variable explanation is usually right.

    People, especially in todays Disinformation Society, have a way of over complicating things, instead of just seeing what’s right in front of them. You can come up with any number of theories, but I just see him not playing, and the team that drafted him #10 overall a little over a year ago refused to pick up an option that was about HALF of the mid level, and it’s just not really a reach to say he sucks. I don’t care what he did in SL. No one there cares about anything but scoring, certainly not defense. PHO also didn’t hang Ayton out to dry. They couldn’t reach a common salary number, but he’s still restricted next summer, and they can match.
    Occam's Razor. Sure that makes sense in general. But people make decisions based on emotions just as much if not more than on logic, so I'm not going to presume to have an answer given everything I outlined. Occam's Razor can quickly become Confirmation Bias.

    But whatever, he's not coming here anyway. On to the next topic...

  19. #269
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    I'm not going to lie -- I loved the idea of him and was disappointed he wasn't around for the Spurs' pick. I think he would be a decent flier if he signed a short-term deal that gave the team RFA rights. He was somewhat too expensive to have real trade value though. Considering that any Young trade within the next 40ish days would have to include Eubanks if the team is going to take back more than one player, there's a spot for Smith on the team. But he's also somewhat dead money, and combined with Saric, I'd want a first in a Young-to-Phoenix deal. I don't think seconds are enough unless Collins goes in the deal instead of Drew.

  20. #270
    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    27,774
    Bump because there’s so much interest on him. A refresher. Some guys have done a full 180 on him recently.
    Last edited by SAGirl; 04-23-2022 at 12:01 AM.

  21. #271
    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    27,774
    One question do you think him and Luka could play together full time and who would you see playing Center and Power Forward?
    Things like this ^ are the reason one doesn’t worry about fit with current roster when scouting in the draft. I am not calling you out in this specifically, that’s not my intention. A lot guys do it, but fit is not even a consideration when fishing for the best upside possible in the draft. Samanic hadn’t shown much at that point but some athleticism and theoretical skills.

    The point is really that many of the guys in the current roster, even young guys are probably not going to be around when the Spurs are compe ive again, so it’s better to leave fit as a consideration for free agency, but not for the draft.

    I am not advocating it, but Spurs may yet draft another wing because Walker is not what they hoped and Primo doesn’t look like a sure thing, and even if he were, it’d be like passing up the opportunity to draft Jimmy Buckets and Kawhi the same year bc you wanted CoJo.

  22. #272
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    Bump because there’s so much interest on him. A refresher. Some guys have done a full 180 on him recently.
    Yes. New information, that he actually can produce with minutes, SHOULD yield a new viewpoint, but that happened for me in January (not so recently) after his December run of playing time when Ayton was out on protocols.

  23. #273
    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    27,774
    I have no problem with that, but you were sooooo sure b4 tbh. Soooo sure, when the truth is none of us know for sure and a bunch of it is speculation.
    Last edited by SAGirl; 04-23-2022 at 12:14 AM.

  24. #274
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    I have no problem with that, but you were sooooo sure b4 tbh. Soooo sure.
    What are you..like 12?

  25. #275
    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    55,054
    I have no problem with that, but you were sooooo sure b4 tbh. Soooo sure, when the truth is none of us know for sure and a bunch of it is speculation.

    Like you with Primo?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •