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wont be watching this year if game 1 sees lma/gay/derozan in the starting lineup.......popovich lied about the youth lineup i wont waste my time watching the old slow ish
I still think you guys are vastly overrating White. He's alright but nothing special, not yet at least.
wont be watching this year if game 1 sees lma/gay/derozan in the starting lineup.......popovich lied about the youth lineup i wont waste my time watching the old slow ish
At this point, LMA garners too much respect from his teammates to be called out for his poor defense. Trading him would be addition by subtraction. Trade him to the Celtics for their trade exception and be done with it. This team needs a big who can be held accountable for poor play. I feel like none of the young guys can yell at him for him losing coverage.
They need to be harder on each other but we have too many sensitive nice guys on the team.
BTW, I think anyone who got excited watching the bubble squad perform well in the summer should probably temper expectations for a repeat this season. Many of the Spurs' opponents were half-assing it knowing they were already assured a playoff spot for the most part. I don't give much credence to it.
Not much has changed. The players are saying a bunch of positive stuff in their interviews but we all know its lip service. If Derozan thought some other team would pay him as much as he's getting for opting-in, he'd be gone. Aldridge couldn't be moved for much in return and Rudy Gay still can't give you consistent, positive performance.
It's most likely gonna be another ty year for the Spurs. But hey, they'll wear those sherbet-colored, alternate uniforms on occasion to make some fans happy I guess.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
When’s the last time we had an NBA ready rookie like Vassell? Kawhi..I’d even say bubble version Keldon
Now let’s draft a solid 4 or 5 with shooting range. We stacked
Front Office F and Head Coach D - for off-season and pre-season development. I got hammered for threads weeks ago predicting this total fail by this organization that won’t move on or move forward. A joke.
Walker: Probably the worst single game from a Spur in a long time from Lonnie, dude looks mentally broken. A lot of the blame for development belongs with him, but it's not like he's been developed well by Pop. Dude was a sounding like a space cadet talking about the world being a hologram who treated his hair like Samson, he needed some special attention.
Murray was more bad than good. He looks worse than the bubble, he doesn't even look as good in the pre-bubble games. Another case where a former point guard as an assistant coach to help him probably could not have hurt. Doubt he's getting any insight from Will Hardy or Mitch Johnson.
Lyles is on his way out of the NBA if he's not careful. He'll be getting minimums and LLEs from here on out, and that's the kind of deal he'd be on now if the Spurs hadn't been shanked by Morris and given a charity deal to Lyles afterwards like bad teams do. He just doesn't do anything that well. And unfortunately he's still better at everything than Samanic.
Poeltl was real bad too. No excuses for him.
Vassell looks like he should start right now with DeRozan at the 4. As bad as Aldridge has been, I do think some of it was predictable given his past moping if he didn't think he was getting the ball at the right time in the right place. White coming back whenever that happens will help a lot, but Vassell would help also as far as being a smart player on the court. Keldon Johnson might be stronger and better suited to bang as a starter instead, but Vassell's floor generaling defense and shooting might be better for the team.
Mills was pretty bad again. With FIBA Mills, it's feast or vomit, and it's probably going to be vomit 2 out of every 3 games or 3 out of 4.
As far as addressing things with trades this year:
The one semi-plausible trade I can think of is something involving DeRozan and salary for Blake Griffin. It kills the Spurs caproom for an extra year for sure, but I can't think of anything else that could plausibly work for any other trade partner. It makes the Spurs worse talent-wise, but the fit could have a decent result by creating more opportunities for other players at positions and roles they aren't getting enough time at now.
For the Spurs, Griffin will be a better PF than DeRozan, or at east more suited to it. He moves like busted Terry mings, but he's probably not any worse a defender than DeRozan at this point. And he shoots 3s, thought not well last year. He's a good passer for keeping the ball moving, good at feeding bigs down low, and would need a minutes limit giving more time to other players.
It's like trading bad for worse, but I can't see other trades that would help.
I don't even think Boston has enough room to be able to take Aldridge, what with his trade kicker and their hard cap.
I should add that Griffin's 19-20 highlight videos are grotesque, but I suppose I'm looking more at the 'addition by subtraction' of it all. Pray he can be closer to pre-all-star break Blake of 18-19.
Gonna be a long week before the season starts.
So that's it for pre season?
Vassell has shown that he is a real deal. Defensively, Pop is already looking at him as a stopper. Will see when Keldon comes back. He’s not afraid to take the shot, and it looks silky good that I think Pop would let him get the green light. I just feel he will be a very special player.
The rest of the team, I feel Spurs just started on the wrong foot with key players injured, players that got the fans excited after the bubble. I think Murray should focus more on scoring. I think he gets too cute trying to get the assist. But if he gets more selfish, I think he could be an improved scorer. I like that Demar can still score at will. Aldridge seems to be at preseason mode. Poeltl has been horrendous defensively and getting himself some basket. So bad, Eubanks was outplaying him. Lyles was sleep walking. Mills is still a defensive liability. It’s preseason. I’ll pass judgement when everybody’s back.
Bertans is exactly what he reminds me of. Flopovich has a history of putting certain players in a position to fail. Lonnie is one of them
if White and Johnson don't have a huge impact this will be an ugly Phoenix Suns like season ... just a group of young guys playing unorganized basketball ...
Jonathan Simmons is another one. Added freedom allowed him to become an all star.
He is out of the league now, yeah?
At this point I hope Lonnie can get out of here soon, before Pop sucks all the soul out of his game. You would think after coaching Manu, Pop would have learned not to try and micro-manage these young guys that play from the soul. Only thing the "Spurs way" have done for this kid is place doubt in his head.
He had moments like this last season too.. from showing alot of promise in the first season to looking like a dud with no game to show. Gone backwards with no confidence for sure . Not surprised at all. Falls on pop.
Brent is looking good tho, got himself a role and contract.. Pop deserves credit for his development.
Lonnie would be better without coaching for sure. Just let him do his thing for 36 min per game. His soul needs nurturing.
This is what y'all wanted... To build around DeRozan and LMA... I kept saying trading them for literally anyone is addition by subtraction... But a lot of ppl on here have this mentality that a team needs a "star" in order to be heading in the right direction... But as I predicted, we are getting worse by the year... These guys don't deserve our loyalty... All they have done since being here is pout, and lament about playing on other teams
They not building around them. I think that is part of the problem. They are drafting the best player availabe and kinda just plugging it in. Also LMA is now 35.
Except for Vassell, everybody deserves an F. I was feeling, that i am watching the Knicks last night. With every pre Season game, the Spurs got worse. Everything was weird and didnt work. I actually have no clue, how the spurs gamestyle will be.
"more bad than good"
I'm really disappointed in you, objective
People are really struggling to objectively review DJ's play last night. If you had no prior knowledge of DJ coming into yesterday's game, these comments would look much different. Instead, Spurs fans can't judge a player honestly because of past trauma.
And I ing hate myself for being the one to defend DJ! I never defended him last season, because he DID play poorly. But to read things like "he's worse than last season" is just a blatant lie (judging from these past two preseason games ONLY, he could very well fall off). It just irks the out of me people can't be truthful or at least, get rid of the hate-shaded glasses.
Now when DJ does have consecutive bad games, I have no problem calling it out as I did with other players. I ing hate Patty Mills but I won't let that hate prevent me from giving him credit when he has a good game.
And let me be clear, I'm not saying he had a perfect game. There were some bad moments. But he looked quicker, stronger, and smarter (on some plays) than he has in two years. His aggressiveness when driving the ball was a sight to behold. He doesn't look like a 25+ minute player if he goes balls to the wall like that every game though. That's my only concern. But those 25 minutes would be for the other team, being attacked at all angles by one player.
Also, you must be be on drugs if you believe we would go after a player who does these kinds of antics. Not only that, he also ing sucks and is an empty stat stuffer.
To also mention DeMar as the one to be traded for him is absurd. DeMar isn't the one hurting the team right now.
Tired of all these out of nowhere comments. Judge the team fairly. Criticism is fine when it's honest (and I've seen good ones).
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