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Splitter was one that I have felt they nailed. He turned out to be a legit starting center.
I think the rights to Milutinov still have value. He just turned 26 last week, is generally considered the best center in Europe, and he'll be 28 when his contract with CSKA is up, which would be a prime time to make the jump to the NBA.
Splitter was one that I have felt they nailed. He turned out to be a legit starting center.
does he have an nba escape clause on his contract? because considering the extreme lack of big men in our team he could probably become easily the best big man option for next season...
Splitter was a first rounder.
Livio is a wasted pick but so is any other player picked after him.
Milutinov is a good player, problem is he is not worth what he wants to get paid.
Luka may be a bust, but picking another player can have a butterfly effect resulting in Keldon not being a spur.
That's what I was thinking.
Not really. You pick Keldon at Luka's spot and Nassir Little, or Bazley. Or Bol Bol, Admiral Schofield, THT, Paschall, Kyle Guy, Kevin Porter... anybody but Luka. Wasn't Dort even undrafted in this class?
https://www.nbadraft.net/actual-draft/?year-mock=2019
Which is why he isnt on the list. He was also heavily scouted being on Brazil's national team and Scola's running mate at a championship level in Europe. He also took forever to come over. Luka is just named Luka, in a year after a guy named Luka was basically league MVP as a rookie. It's unfortunate the front office had to make a mistake like thinking another similar looking Luka was going to be a great pick with our first pick of that relatively loaded draft.
It wasn't really loaded. I looked at the draft and picks after the Luka pick. They are only 2 guys I felt the Spurs passed up that could have helped which is Clark and Bazley. Both are power forwards who seem solid to decent players for their positions. Luka looks like he's going to be a bust but it's still too early to say. Even if he is a bust I understand why the Spurs were willing to take the risk. You have to gamble in the draft to find potential superstars and not always go for the safe pick. I'm not going to lose sleep over missing out on Clark and Bazley. Those type of players the Spurs can have in any draft. I just hope they start drafting bigs now and if not a big draft a big wing player.
Bazley and Little never made it to pick 29. Bol Bol and Kyle Guy is in the same boat as Luka, Schofield was just waived. THT and Kevin Porter have maturity issues you don't want these guys when you have a young roster. Paschall can't shot 3's and is more likely an undersized center. You take a chance on a 6-10 prospect who can shoot in a position of need over players you can acquire anytime.
the two guys I wanted, it seemed stupid not to draft Bazley at that time, and it seems even more so now, the worst part is that I don't believe that anything that Luka does, will make him better than Bazley as a basketball player.
what Luka seems to lack is unfortunately not talent.
if he could reach that level it would be fantastic imo
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I can see that Luka will be the new Brynn this year
What's funny is even this cherry-picked list that inexplicably left out Splitter and Bertans is pretty impressive considering where these guys were picked.
-Javtokas was probably going to be damn good but then his body got destroyed in a motorcycle accident. Somehow, even though he almost died, he was so athletic to begin with that he still almost made the NBA after the accident. If he never rode a motorcycle, he would have gone down as a great pick. Even with the motorcycle accident, his overseas accomplishments proved he was a good pick.
-Mahinmi was a great pick. He was the 28th pick and will make something like $100 million in his career.
-De Colo was another really damn good pick. Picked in the 50s, had an actual NBA career and is currently one of the best players in Europe. If he wanted to return to the NBA, he'd get a contract above the minimum.
-Hanga was picked 59th and just about landed a multi-year NBA contract. Another really good pick, considering the position.
-Milutinov is considered by many to be the best center in Europe. The biggest issue with him is that the value of centers collapsed in the NBA since he was drafted but has remained steady in Europe. Talent-wise, he was a good pick.
-Richards was a home run swing in the second round. Given his size and athleticism, it was a worthwhile gamble. The guy moves like David Robinson ... it's too bad he never developed any skill.
-Jean-Charles was a player whose game relied 100% on athleticism and his knee exploded a couple weeks after the draft. Not much anyone could do about that, tbh.
Add in the great pick that was Splitter and the even better pick that was Bertans and the comedic value of this list is pretty high, tbh.
The spurs have done better in late first round picks than some teams have done in the lottery.
Stealth Scola thread?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_An..._draft_historyWhat's funny is even this cherry-picked list that inexplicably left out Splitter and Bertans is pretty impressive considering where these guys were picked.
-Javtokas was probably going to be damn good but then his body got destroyed in a motorcycle accident. Somehow, even though he almost died, he was so athletic to begin with that he still almost made the NBA after the accident. If he never rode a motorcycle, he would have gone down as a great pick. Even with the motorcycle accident, his overseas accomplishments proved he was a good pick.
-Mahinmi was a great pick. He was the 28th pick and will make something like $100 million in his career.
-De Colo was another really damn good pick. Picked in the 50s, had an actual NBA career and is currently one of the best players in Europe. If he wanted to return to the NBA, he'd get a contract above the minimum.
-Hanga was picked 59th and just about landed a multi-year NBA contract. Another really good pick, considering the position.
-Milutinov is considered by many to be the best center in Europe. The biggest issue with him is that the value of centers collapsed in the NBA since he was drafted but has remained steady in Europe. Talent-wise, he was a good pick.
-Richards was a home run swing in the second round. Given his size and athleticism, it was a worthwhile gamble. The guy moves like David Robinson ... it's too bad he never developed any skill.
-Jean-Charles was a player whose game relied 100% on athleticism and his knee exploded a couple weeks after the draft. Not much anyone could do about that, tbh.
Add in the great pick that was Splitter and the even better pick that was Bertans and the comedic value of this list is pretty high, tbh.
If you look at the Spurs draft history after '97 and look at all of their late first rounders and you will see they were able to draft solid players the majority of times. The only guys who didn't pan out was Livio and James Anderson. Anderson looked like he was going to be a good player until he got injured. Livio like you mentioned was a bust due to injury. If you can get a solid player late in the first round then you have done a good job drafting since most guys don't last long in the league who are picked late.
The jury is still out on Luka.
The premature calling him a bust is what is silly.
He looks two seasons away as his deficiencies are more of a matter of his maturity, not his skill set.
The question there is you can't really tell how a person will grow in that regard.
He remains a mystery, but a promising one.
The league have caught up with scouting international players. That's all it is. And our FO will continue to find other ways to get ahead. A lot of people here forget, the Spurs don't have billionaire owners, yet despite that we only missed the playoffs 5 times ever?? Geez, there's no satisfying some people
This has got to be trolling, right? Am I taking the bait here? There's no way you can seriously think that the Spurs selected Samanic just because he shared his name with Doncic. It's such a stupid idea, low even for a trolling attempt, tbh - you can do better.
Phxspurfan reminding people how ing stupid he is.
Splitter, Ginobili and Scola were all legitimate stars in Europe at the time the Spurs drafted them. They were all well worth the pick.
The projects not soo much.
Ginobili wasn't a star, tbh. He was on a second division team in Italy. Gordan Giricek was considered by far the better prospect for at least a year after the draft.
Ginobili was an Italian League all star in '99, the year the Spurs drafted him (if it was second division, he was on the way up).
At any rate, there's no denying he was the best player in Europe by the time he came to the Spurs in '02 -- EuroLeague Finals MVP (2001), FIBA AmeriCup MVP (2001).
Most of the other international guys the Spurs drafted that didn't pan out were drafted more on upside potential, i.e., projects.
Our boi Bert was picked in 2011 by the Pacers and came to us via the Kawhi trade, did he not? Plus he was a shining Riga star, nowhere near bust. And Splitter was good. I also didn't include Scola since he ended up being good. Only included guys who were bad. And yes ofc I included some second rounders. Otherwise there's not a lot since we have been drafting mostly high 1st round / 2nd round during the dynasty.What's funny is even this cherry-picked list that inexplicably left out Splitter and Bertans is pretty impressive considering where these guys were picked.
-Javtokas was probably going to be damn good but then his body got destroyed in a motorcycle accident. Somehow, even though he almost died, he was so athletic to begin with that he still almost made the NBA after the accident. If he never rode a motorcycle, he would have gone down as a great pick. Even with the motorcycle accident, his overseas accomplishments proved he was a good pick.
-Mahinmi was a great pick. He was the 28th pick and will make something like $100 million in his career.
-De Colo was another really damn good pick. Picked in the 50s, had an actual NBA career and is currently one of the best players in Europe. If he wanted to return to the NBA, he'd get a contract above the minimum.
-Hanga was picked 59th and just about landed a multi-year NBA contract. Another really good pick, considering the position.
-Milutinov is considered by many to be the best center in Europe. The biggest issue with him is that the value of centers collapsed in the NBA since he was drafted but has remained steady in Europe. Talent-wise, he was a good pick.
-Richards was a home run swing in the second round. Given his size and athleticism, it was a worthwhile gamble. The guy moves like David Robinson ... it's too bad he never developed any skill.
-Jean-Charles was a player whose game relied 100% on athleticism and his knee exploded a couple weeks after the draft. Not much anyone could do about that, tbh.
Add in the great pick that was Splitter and the even better pick that was Bertans and the comedic value of this list is pretty high, tbh.
- Wasn't Javtokas in lowlights on youtube getting dunked on by team USA? Pretty sure he seemed to me like another classic stiff, nothing special. Plus, guys seem way more athletic over in Europe, then come here and for some reason (better compe ion?) look like crap. Guys who have succeeded here from Europe have largely been very heady, skilled players (Divac, Sabonis, Nowitzki, Luka, even Oberto had a very nice PnR / pocket pass and reverse layup game, and Splitter was a master at finishing PnRs at the rim). Give me one big Euro dude who came here and was beasting athletically on people.What's funny is even this cherry-picked list that inexplicably left out Splitter and Bertans is pretty impressive considering where these guys were picked.
-Javtokas was probably going to be damn good but then his body got destroyed in a motorcycle accident. Somehow, even though he almost died, he was so athletic to begin with that he still almost made the NBA after the accident. If he never rode a motorcycle, he would have gone down as a great pick. Even with the motorcycle accident, his overseas accomplishments proved he was a good pick.
-Mahinmi was a great pick. He was the 28th pick and will make something like $100 million in his career.
-De Colo was another really damn good pick. Picked in the 50s, had an actual NBA career and is currently one of the best players in Europe. If he wanted to return to the NBA, he'd get a contract above the minimum.
-Hanga was picked 59th and just about landed a multi-year NBA contract. Another really good pick, considering the position.
-Milutinov is considered by many to be the best center in Europe. The biggest issue with him is that the value of centers collapsed in the NBA since he was drafted but has remained steady in Europe. Talent-wise, he was a good pick.
-Richards was a home run swing in the second round. Given his size and athleticism, it was a worthwhile gamble. The guy moves like David Robinson ... it's too bad he never developed any skill.
-Jean-Charles was a player whose game relied 100% on athleticism and his knee exploded a couple weeks after the draft. Not much anyone could do about that, tbh.
Add in the great pick that was Splitter and the even better pick that was Bertans and the comedic value of this list is pretty high, tbh.
- Mahinmi the Savior was supposed to be the chosen one for us for many years. He was a massive disappointment/foul machine while here and only blossomed when he left to our arch rival the Mavs. So only one argument there is we paid to develop him while other teams benefitted from the finished product. Another more fair argument is that he wasn't that motivated here, when we needed him most (to be Robin to aging TD's batman). that dude.
- DeCola was an a-hole who didn't want to play his role IIRC. Not that he wasn't talented, he was like a poor mans Ricky Rubio. But he thought he was a star, and he was far from it. His at ude sent him packing IIRC.
- I'll give you LJC had that ACL in his developmental years I think. The rest of the guys I didn't really follow that much, just dismissed outright since we never really saw them. I think there was another one, Viktor Sanikidze or whatever. Who cares, when the point is we picked guys like the aforementioned when Americans were in the draft that were heavily scouted, known commodities, that could have really helped here.
James Anderson had the foot injury, that was very unfortunate. He would have probably been ok. Can't blame him or the Spurs for that, and it really sucks when injuries limit a guys potential.
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