Okay - now you lost control.
I can STFU cause what else to add? The officiating ewasn't that bad. Are you watching soccer a lot? Or just when the WC is on tv?
I do not see many mistakes by the ref. plus he has half a second to make a decision we have a diferent angels replays, and it's tough to officiate a soccergame by one ref, that's why you can see many player flopping, and it's normal that;'s the way the game is.
And you are complaing like he just killed your dog. Oh come on. To me you are whining but that's probably just me .
yes, by all means, blame the ref. It couldn't have been because your team didn't capitalize on their chances (which were plenty by the way), or that Italy's defence was good enough to withstand a good US offense. Yes some calls were bogus, but the ref wasn't the reason you tied today.
ARGENTINA KNOWS ALL. ACCEPT OR FORNICATE.
actually, that should be everyone's philosophy on life
^Word! Sounds like Brazil's philosophy as well, at least the fornicate part. ha ha
The US didn't finish, but Italy's defense wasn't exactly great. And yes, I believe the referee's horrible officiating directly contributed to the outcome of the game. There's a big difference between playing 11 on 10 and 9 on 10. Not to mention the Italians flopping and dragging the game to a halt every five minutes.
But in fairness, those red cards were legit. I think Johnson was already carrying a yellow and that clip of that Italian guy's ankles was bogus, however intentional or not.
Every article I have read on the game said that ref sucked ass and ed the game up royally...even the Italian recap.
About 3 articles I have read said that 3 Red Cards in a game like that ties a World Cup record...Seems like the total would be higher...
Link:
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news...WORLD-REDS.XML
Good I'm going to sleep
Oh...and the reason the guy got suspended before? Handing out Red and Yellow Cards inconsistently.
Yes I watch a lot of soccer. Now please point out where during this World Cup a player was sent off for one of the dozen tackles identical to Mastroeni's. If you couldn't see the Italians flopping and getting call after call I can't help you. It's ridiculous that a player hits the ground like he was shot when the replay clearly shows he wasn't even touched by another player. We have the luxury of replays, but the ref has the luxury of being within several feet of the actual play. And no he didn't kill my dog, but he tried to kill my country's National Team's chance of advancing to the Round of 16. The officiating sucked, the ref tied the freakin' record for red cards. To me you're either blind or trolling, but maybe that's just me.Okay - now you lost control.
I can STFU cause what else to add? The officiating ewasn't that bad. Are you watching soccer a lot? Or just when the WC is on tv?
I do not see many mistakes by the ref. plus he has half a second to make a decision we have a diferent angels replays, and it's tough to officiate a soccergame by one ref, that's why you can see many player flopping, and it's normal that;'s the way the game is.
And you are complaing like he just killed your dog. Oh come on. To me you are whining but that's probably just me .
The reason the record is so "low" is because a red card is supposed to be used as a last resort for a serious, reckless foul that endangers the safety of an opponent, like deliberately elbowing a player in the face. Not for hard fouls with a play made on the ball, jersey tugging, a stiff wind, the opponents diving like there's gold buried in the field etc. A red card for a tackle made on the ball is bogus, unless he goes right for the leg with es up from behind. A red card for a bogus yellow card and a weak second yellow card, well that's just poor form from the ref.
That's why you've got tro deal with different refs.
They said that they will whistle more and will be pulling card when someones try to flop without a contact.
This was the first ref that was pretty stable with his calls. The reds cards where where they should be. And maybe something was happening at the last 5 minutes of the game when I was sleeping.(?)
All I know that on the WC are not the best refs in the worls. The best are European ofcourse, but even in Europe you've got leauges with a different officiating like in England they allowe much more contact then in Spain leauge, so you've got to deal with that.
To me that was not that bad of a game from the officiating point of view.
[The refs were eximend in threes and thay had to spek the same language so the officiating be better - well it's not]
But taht was not bad officiating game in my opinion.
And good night!
I'm tellin' ya... these guys went to the Javee/Bavetta/Salvatore School of Reffing.
I don't know what it is but we really blow in futbol, hopefully Ghana scores twice on themselves!
I guess the Colombus Thundertides arent world class opponents too!
I watched the game and I thought the red cards were legit, Mastroenni foul was really hard, he hit the side of the foot with the back of his shoe.
Kezman was sent off yesterday against Argentina in a similar foul, thats a red.
WTF?? Its not a flagrant type 2 foul. A red card could be awarded in different situations, stopping a clear gol situation with a foul, hard foul from behind, and of course yellow + yellow = red. Not the refs fault that Pope got himself sent off for stupid fouls he should have known better.
The only missed call was the hand-ball in the box by the Italian defender...
Every other 'major' call was legit.
-- Red on De Rossi - Legit (So far the most unsportsman-like play in the tournament)
-- Double yellow on Pope - Legit (the dude kept fouling every Italian he covered)
-- Red Mastroeni - Legit (Excessive force on the stud-first tackle from the side... would be a red in most leagues)
-- Beasley's Nullified goal - Legit (If McBride does not pick up his foot, then the goal would be legit - it's a shame too)
Random game comments:
I would agree that the Italians were flopping excessively and stopping the clock every 3 minutes or so...
Props to Kasey Keller on those amazing saves near the end of the game..
A little too late from Donovan but it seemed like he finally started to do something on the field.
I too was perplexed why Arenas would hold off on his last subs ution... when you have few players on the field an injection of fresh legs can help the team out greatly... Reminds me of Mejia-Baron who kept his 2 remaining subs utions in a game between Mexico and Bulgaria in 1994.... Mexico lost that 2nd Round game in a penalty shootout on worn legs... the two subs would have made an impact on that front... another from the world of World Cup could of would ofs...
Last edited by hegamboa; 06-19-2006 at 03:14 PM.
the ref was from Uruguay, what do u expect?
He is still dirty his team didnt make the finals
it still feels great knowing that our aussie boys made sure Recoba and his goons didnt make it back to the World Cup this year
No ,The Americans stink. If it wasn't for a lucky own goal, they would still be looking for their first goal of the tournament.
No . Now when did any of the other situations that can earn a red card happen during the match? That's right, they didn't. Di Rossi was sent off for violent behaviour, trying to take McBride's head off with his elbow, a clear call. Mastroeni was sent off for a hard tackle, from the side, playing the ball, es down, his slide led to him clipping the Italian player's ankle, a yellow card at best. Pope was sent off for two yellow cards for what amounted to jersey pulling and flopping by the Italians, he was sent off in the second minute of the second half to leave the US squad with 9 men.
- is guilty of serious foul play
- is guilty of violent conduct
A tackle, which endangers the safety of an opponent, must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
That's what we're talking about here, deliberately endangering an opponent. There have been several tackles identical to Mastroeni's in this World Cup and not one of them earned a red card. It was a bogus call.
fine, believe what you need to believe. If it makes you feel better about your team believing you got robbed by the ref, go ahead, but reality is something else.
Go ahead and believe you have any idea what the you're talking about. Apparently only your view is reality, not the views of millions of fans that agree that the officiating was horrible and affected the game.
yeah, the five million watching from the US
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