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    They can probably trade Barnes and get an asset back. BOS is interested.
    If they can get an asset and not take back a bad contract then they will do that.... it's certainly possible since it's a sellers market..

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    There’s zero context here but imagine they had Harden, Russ, KD, CP3, and now Griffen and have zero rings to show for it
    but 30 draft picks

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    I've been wondering about Barnes and Bjelica in a deal involving Aldridge, if their looking to clear up their books and provide the Spurs with depth at the four but that would probably require Spurs giving up an asset.
    Been reports Celtics want Barnes for the Trade Exception they have. Kings are saying no because they still want to make the playoffs, but it could be smoke. If Sacramento is trying to make the playoffs, then any moves they make will be for Bjelica first. Miami and 76ers are interested in him. Kings being sellers will depend on their record and how many games out of the 8th spot they are about a week to 10 days before the trade deadline. Spurs would probably be looking at Lonnie as that asset to part with potentially.

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    It's crazy you think his value is only 80 mil over 3.
    I mean that's about what he's making now. Maintaining that salary several years into his 30s seems like a reasonable bet. DDR receiving a fourth year seems unlikely, at that rate, given that he'll be 35 then.

    Teams, and the rest of the league as a whole, seem to undervalue him. I don't think teams are going to be lining up to sign him to, say, a four year, $120 million dollar deal like Hayward, even though Hayward was coming off several down years with bad injury luck.

    I don't even see the Spurs paying him around $27 million per for the next three seasons when they have a bunch of promising guards and wings that can help to replace his production with more minutes and usage.

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    You dont trade for griffin for Griffin. You trade him for the asset(s) attached.
    With $39MM promised to him next year (on top of this year's salary), it would have to be some damn good assets.

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    LMA/LW IV for Nikola Vucevic works on paper. Spurs will have to include future draft picks and that is when all chance of the trade happening ends. Not sure if Vucevic would be good with our core group.

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    There’s zero context here but imagine they had Harden, Russ, KD, CP3, and now Griffen and have zero rings to show for it
    To be fair only one of those players have a ring.

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    To be fair only one of those players have a ring.
    superteam = ring*...and no playoff series win without a star on your team.

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    LMA/LW IV for Nikola Vucevic works on paper. Spurs will have to include future draft picks and that is when all chance of the trade happening ends. Not sure if Vucevic would be good with our core group.
    We have a starting center on a cheap contract. We needed Gordon not vuc. And Orlando don't need LMA cause they have vuc.

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    Pat Riley will take Brian Wright to the back of the shed so any dealings with Miami naturally scare me.

    *edit*

    This is what that article is in reference to:

    Also LMA + Rudy for ___


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    Pat Riley will take Brian Wright to the back of the shed so any dealings with Miami naturally scare me.

    *edit*

    This is what that article is in reference to:

    Also LMA + Rudy for ___

    There's no way any deal with Miami will be lopsided for the Spurs, so what might we be looking at?

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    There's no way any deal with Miami will be lopsided for the Spurs, so what might we be looking at?
    I don’t think we’re looking. I think some internet jockey is trying to make his bones.

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    I don’t think we’re looking. I think some internet jockey is trying to make his bones.
    You're probably right.

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    Pat Riley will take Brian Wright to the back of the shed so any dealings with Miami naturally scare me.

    *edit*

    This is what that article is in reference to:

    Also LMA + Rudy for ___

    Would have to be:

    Iguadala+ Leonard+Olynyk for Aldridge+Gay

    Heat don't have much in the way of assets a 2027 unprotected 2nd round pick and I think they can technically trade a first but it would be pretty far out. They owe a 2023 first that is lottery protected through '25 and unprotected in '26 to OKC.

    Assuming that pick conveys in 2023, the Spurs could get their pick in 2025 or 2026--obviously, they'd be lottery protected. It would have to be protected in a pretty specific way through.

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    There's no way any deal with Miami will be lopsided for the Spurs, so what might we be looking at?
    Olynyk and Iggy would cover LMA. Combination of Myers Leonard w Avery Bradley/Mo Harkness would cover Gay. They are not going to offer Robinson, Nunn, or Precious. Iggy, Leonard, and Bradley all have one more year on their contracts. The Heat want to use that money to pay Robinson and Nunn new contracts since they will be FA in the offseason and whatever pick they have next year. Olynyk and Harkless are expiring. Miami is similar to Detroit in they don't have ready available 1st rd picks to trade.

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    Smaller possible trades could be:

    Aldridge for Leonard, Olynyk, 2027 Miami 2nd

    Gay for Harkless, Leonard, 2027 Miami 2nd

    not great returns tbh

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    Smaller possible trades could be:

    Aldridge for Leonard, Olynyk, 2027 Miami 2nd

    Gay for Harkless, Leonard, 2027 Miami 2nd

    not great returns tbh
    Compare those players to the FA agent class next year and the actual possibility of a FA coming here, would the Spurs be better off making some of these deals you mentioned?

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    Smaller possible trades could be:

    Aldridge for Leonard, Olynyk, 2027 Miami 2nd

    Gay for Harkless, Leonard, 2027 Miami 2nd

    not great returns tbh
    No they aren't. Plus, I wouldn't want to bail Riley out of Iggy's contract. He made his bed with that one, he can stay in it.

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    Gay for Olynk + KZ

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    “That can be had for very little” the Spurs aren’t handling away Gay and LMA for nothing AND taking back salary beyond this year.

    Literally making stuff up and seeing if it sticks. Surprised someone like Morey follows that clown.

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    Imagine thinking Miami is closer to being win-now this year than the Spurs...

    I could see Miami liking Aldridge and giving him an extension ala Iggy as part of a trade. They don't need to worry about free agency this year. But at the very least, SA should be expecting Duncan Robinson back in the deal. The Spurs just have no incentive.

    Aldridge and Lyles for Leonard, Olynyk and Robinson. This saves SA a lot of money from the pure salary difference and the fact that Leonard's contract is being paid by insurance. Miami probably wants a cheaper contract to be part of the deal than Lyles or at least wants to include Iggy instead of one of the guys. But SA needs Olynyk to provide big-man depth, and unless they find a third team that wants Iggy, they probably don't find him worth the extra salary without Achiuwa being in the deal rather than Robinson. The Spurs get the RFA rights to a young forward who looks like a fit with their youngsters while avoiding taking long-term money.

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    I mean that's about what he's making now. Maintaining that salary several years into his 30s seems like a reasonable bet. DDR receiving a fourth year seems unlikely, at that rate, given that he'll be 35 then.

    Teams, and the rest of the league as a whole, seem to undervalue him. I don't think teams are going to be lining up to sign him to, say, a four year, $120 million dollar deal like Hayward, even though Hayward was coming off several down years with bad injury luck.

    I don't even see the Spurs paying him around $27 million per for the next three seasons when they have a bunch of promising guards and wings that can help to replace his production with more minutes and usage.
    I always felt a 3/77 deal was fair, which is what LMA got. But the cap went up since then, so it's closer to 90.

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    Not sure Miami wants any part of Aldridge, contrary to reports.
    Unless he has slimmed down and committed himself physically, LMA doesn’t seem to meet Miami’s stringent conditioning itinerary.

    https://heatnation.com/team-news/mia...elves-10-days/

    It is known around the NBA that the Miami Heat take conditioning and fitness extremely seriously.They even suspended forward James Johnson at the start of training camp this season after he failed to meet the conditioning requirements set by the team.
    Heat guard Duncan Robinson revealed another level of the Heat’s intensity when he recently said that they require their players to weigh themselves about every 10 days.
    The team also makes sure to have its players measure their body fat.

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    if we can actually dump aldridge... prayingdog.jpg

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