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    Lol bot there yet.

    I can see Renfro with the tools to be a solid 3 and d guy.
    He's like the blocking machine version of Vassell. Vassell is the steal machine. Put both of them together and ...


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    Man the Spurs’s future is looking brighter and brighter.
    Exactly why I can't see us drafting a PG even if they're BPA in the draft this year. Our point guard rotation is set.

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    Exactly why I can't see us drafting a PG even if they're BPA in the draft this year. Our point guard rotation is set.
    We are definitely going for a big man in this draft.

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    Would kill me inside if Renfro turns out to be the next JaMychal Green. Not in terms of the player, but in terms of what happened.
    It was a different time then. I think the Spurs offered him a spot, he just realized that he would NEVER play on a Big Three era team. I don’t think Renfro would have those constraints. I think he could play minutes next year if he develops a jumper.

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    He's like the blocking machine version of Vassell. Vassell is the steal machine. Put both of them together and ...

    lol

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    Spurs

    Starters MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    K. KelleyC 11 1-1 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 -16 2
    L. SamanicF 34 7-20 3-8 0-0 4 5 9 3 0 0 2 2 +5 17
    T. JonesG 32 7-14 0-0 4-6 1 6 7 9 1 0 4 1 -10 20
    K. WilliamsG 24 1-5 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 -12 2
    C. ReynoldsG 25 8-13 4-8 0-0 1 6 7 1 1 0 2 2 -5 20
    Bench MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    N. RenfroF 27 5-7 1-2 0-0 2 2 4 4 3 1 2 5 +25 11
    A. MathisG 21 8-14 6-12 1-1 0 5 5 0 0 0 0 4 +11 23
    R. Woodard IIG 29 6-12 0-3 1-2 2 7 9 4 1 0 2 1 +11 13
    K. JohnsonG 10 0-0 0-0 0-1 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 1 +1 0
    L. PerrantesG 27 6-11 3-6 1-1 0 3 3 6 2 0 2 2 +25 17
    J. MorrisG DNP-LEFT CALF
    K. ThomasG DNP-LEFT HAMSTRING
    G. Robinson Jr.G DNP-DID NOT DRESS
    TEAM 49-97 17-41 7-11 12 36 48 31 10 1 15 19 125
    50.5% 41.5% 63.6%

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    I haven't been able to see many of these, but this was on NBATV.

    Luka and Jones both have nice baskets of skills, will need more work.

    Samanic ran against a guy in Brazdeikis who is stronger and able to disrupt him. Samanic is predictable on offense. He even seems to decide each play what he's going to do -- like go left -- and he'll do it no matter what. He has great form on his shot and can get it off whenever he wants, but there's something wrong with why it doesn't drop more often. An issue may be that he does the same with his drives -- decide beforehand that he's going to shoot -- and launches it without being in the rhythm of the offense. He did hit two important ones after scraping the front rim right before. He's not going to get so many tries on the big team. He's too easily dispossessed when dribbling or down low.

    Defense, he went for about three steals that got him out of position, which isn't good, and he doesn't seem to be a rim protecting threat, but he does alright with rebounds. He's really fluid as a horizontal athlete, though. His post-up game reminds me of Rik Smits, actually, although clearly they are very different otherwise. Below the rim game dependant on footwork and length.

    Jones has a ton of great aspects. He sees the floor very, very well for his age, great PG skills, and he's a good enough ballhandler to get anywhere he wants at this level -- although he does naturally carry the ball in his dribble motion, which he may get called on. So rare to find a pure point guard like him at that pick. Deceptively athletic, a nice defender, can control and handle a team's offense to get guys their shots. Seems adept at what Steve Nash did a lot, dribble the baseline through the lane to pull bigger defenders. He is a treat to pick up steals, but doesn't get out of position like Samanic does.

    He needs a shot, clearly. Once he can knock down jumpers, and I expect he should on this franchise, he's a really nice guy to bring off the bench. Like his brother, a spot starter and someone you have no problem sticking in there full time if you have to. This game depended on a handful of players, but it was Jones that sealed the deal. A great compe or.

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    Yeah, he's really talented. Really provocative to think how he develops going forward and faces the adversity of not having things teed up for him in the NBA.

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    I haven't been able to see many of these, but this was on NBATV.

    Luka and Jones both have nice baskets of skills, will need more work.

    Samanic ran against a guy in Brazdeikis who is stronger and able to disrupt him. Samanic is predictable on offense. He even seems to decide each play what he's going to do -- like go left -- and he'll do it no matter what. He has great form on his shot and can get it off whenever he wants, but there's something wrong with why it doesn't drop more often. An issue may be that he does the same with his drives -- decide beforehand that he's going to shoot -- and launches it without being in the rhythm of the offense. He did hit two important ones after scraping the front rim right before. He's not going to get so many tries on the big team. He's too easily dispossessed when dribbling or down low.

    Defense, he went for about three steals that got him out of position, which isn't good, and he doesn't seem to be a rim protecting threat, but he does alright with rebounds. He's really fluid as a horizontal athlete, though. His post-up game reminds me of Rik Smits, actually, although clearly they are very different otherwise. Below the rim game dependant on footwork and length.

    Jones has a ton of great aspects. He sees the floor very, very well for his age, great PG skills, and he's a good enough ballhandler to get anywhere he wants at this level -- although he does naturally carry the ball in his dribble motion, which he may get called on. So rare to find a pure point guard like him at that pick. Deceptively athletic, a nice defender, can control and handle a team's offense to get guys their shots. Seems adept at what Steve Nash did a lot, dribble the baseline through the lane to pull bigger defenders. He is a treat to pick up steals, but doesn't get out of position like Samanic does.

    He needs a shot, clearly. Once he can knock down jumpers, and I expect he should on this franchise, he's a really nice guy to bring off the bench. Like his brother, a spot starter and someone you have no problem sticking in there full time if you have to. This game depended on a handful of players, but it was Jones that sealed the deal. A great compe or.
    Regarding Luka:

    You'd rather rein someone in than try to motivate them to do something. I like Luka's laser focus on having something in his mind and executing it rather than the opposite-- indecisiveness. IMO, it's the decisions (read and react) he makes that he needs to improve, and I think that will come in time.

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    Regarding Luka:

    You'd rather rein someone in than try to motivate them to do something. I like Luka's laser focus on having something in his mind and executing it rather than the opposite-- indecisiveness. IMO, it's the decisions (read and react) he makes that he needs to improve, and I think that will come in time.
    I don't think it's a bad thing, but do think it makes him easier to read as a defender. It's a step toward haing a more natural, organic feel for offensive sets.

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    IMO, Luka has that Murray trajectory, not just mentally but as far as skills. Murray didn't look like a point guard for a long time, he was a tragic turnover machine, and had no vision. Then all of a sudden, everything clicked. In the same way, Luka doesn't look like he can put it all together as a stretch big, right now looks like a tragic soft baby, and doesn't know to pass out of really bad situations. It's like static electricity with these two and you're trying to harness that into a bolt of lightning.

    Then the Spurs will say, "Boom motha a!"

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    RENFRO WITH TWO STRAIGHT BEAUTIFUL DRIVES

    RENFRO IS THE ATHLETIC FORWARD WE NEED
    Yep I got hooked on him as soon as i watched his interview and then looked at his old playing tape

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    Yep I got hooked on him as soon as i watched his interview and then looked at his old playing tape
    Bruh

    He's also a scholar.



    He's perfect.

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    Tre looks like a real steal for a second round pick.

    Man our guard situation makes my head spin.... DJ, White, Mills, Lonnie, Devin, Q, Tre....where do you find minutes for all of them?

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    Tre looks like a real steal for a second round pick.

    Man our guard situation makes my head spin.... DJ, White, Mills, Lonnie, Devin, Q, Tre....where do you find minutes for all of them?
    Great problem to have.

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    Great problem to have.
    Yep. Not complaining. But it's interesting to see how it'll work out.

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    Well, it's a guard league right now. You can play 3 guards at a time, with Vessell and Johnson being more wings, Murray, White being more PGs, and Jones being a pure PG.

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    Poor Q

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    Yep. Not complaining. But it's interesting to see how it'll work out.
    Great problem in this guard dominated league. The Bad Boys era had the same with their 3 guards and was blowing everybody.

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    Well, it's a guard league right now. You can play 3 guards at a time, with Vessell and Johnson being more wings, Murray, White being more PGs, and Jones being a pure PG.
    Where does that leave Lonnie?

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    Where does that leave Lonnie?
    Lonnie is a pure shooting guard.

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