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    ~ 5 months to theoretical herd immunity (~75% vaccinated) at the current rate (~2.5M doses/day)
    not with Trash's cult mob, Repugs, military, health care refusing shots

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    Your rep is in this thread. You shot your wad proclaiming the end of the pandemic too many times already.
    Oh thnap!

    Wait and see, I suppose.

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    Oh thnap!

    Wait and see, I suppose.
    There is no wait and see on this, you goofed multiple times.

    You called the end of COVID during mid-summer, then during late summer last year. "No more fuel" you said.

    You did the same in the fall before the e, and now you're doing it again.

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    End of April? Mid summer?
    You estimated July 2020 tbh.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 03-18-2021 at 03:22 AM.

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    You estimated July 2020 tbh.
    Just revised to mid-April 2021

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    There is no wait and see on this, you goofed multiple times.

    You called the end of COVID during mid-summer, then during late summer last year. "No more fuel" you said.

    You did the same in the fall before the e, and now you're doing it again.
    You estimated July 2020 tbh.

    Yeah, I didn't call the end of the epidemic while Texas was at its peak. I made a comment about NY appearing to be near herd immunity, which was obviously wrong.

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    Biden admin to send Astra-Zeneca vaccine to Mexico in exchange for border security

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...88d_story.html

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    Yeah, I didn't call the end of the epidemic while Texas was at its peak.
    Our peak was this January, Darrin.

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    Our peak was this January, Darrin.
    Yeah, I didn't call the end of the epidemic while Texas was at its Summer peak. I made a comment about NY appearing to be near herd immunity, which was obviously wrong.

    Better?

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    You never cared when you got things wrong before. Why start now?

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    From Quartz email:

    "Daydreaming, flatulence, and chapped lips.

    Those are just three of the reactions a very small number of people have attributed to the AstraZeneca vaccine,

    as Annalisa Merelli reports in this fun piece illustrating the illogical assumptions made about the shot.

    Several European countries halted their administration of the vaccine after reports of blood clots, though the number of those who self-reported that response

    (1 in 167,000) essentially matches the prevalence of blood clots in the population.

    The drug company is diligently tracking all the bizarre “symptoms” experienced by Europeans anyway—

    the full list is guaranteed to make you chuckle."

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    The most ridiculous self-reported side effects to the AstraZeneca vaccine

    https://qz.com/1984717/what-are-astrazenecas-self-reported-side-effects

    hypothesis: American drug companies trying keep British AZ vaccine to a minimum ($$$$) are financing a misinformation campaign that hypes AZ causing blood clots.



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    Capitalism sucks, esp for-profit health care

    DRUGMAKERS PROMISE INVESTORS THEY’LL SOON HIKE COVID-19 VACCINE PRICES

    Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson pledged affordable vaccines — but only as long as there’s a “pandemic.”

    Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, and Pfizer — have quietly touted plans to raise prices on coronavirus vaccines in the near future and

    to capitalize on the virus’s lasting presence.

    Pharmaceutical officials, ... say they expect the virus will linger, morphing from a pandemic into a perennial endemic.

    And as Covid-19 mutations continue to spread and booster shots may be required on a regular basis,

    leaders from the three companies are enthusiastic about cashing in.


    https://theintercept.com/2021/03/18/covid-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna

    While Capitalism confiscates $Ts from non-Capitalists, the Capitalists propagandize, misinform with the LIE that democratic socialism is the same a collectivist USSR Communism.



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    Thrombosis trigger found for AZ vaccine:

    https://m.dw.com/en/astrazeneca-germ...ger/a-56925550

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    Europe resurgence.

    The Biden administration has greatly improved distribution to in the arm vaccination.
    we still need to try and speed up even more. Less affluent communities still being underserved.

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    santizing surfaces and frequent deep cleaning is wasted time and energy

    Another lingering concern testifying to the persistent impact of outdated science is that so much of schools’ reopening guidance remains aimed at hygienic measures, surface wipe-downs, and plexiglass barriers, all of which are completely ineffective in limiting what we now know is the primary mode of indoor transmission, airborne aerosols.[xv]

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    I would not say uniformly, sitting adjacent to an infected person seems intuitively more dangerous, but I don't think the modifier undermines his broader point about crowding in badly ventilated rooms.


    Contrary to the notion that even 3 feet of distancing is sufficient protection, and 6 feet is overkill, the critical safety issue is that students are all uniformly at risk in poorly ventilated rooms no matter where they are or how they distance. With one infected person in an enclosed and poorly ventilated room, the coronavirus permeates the entire space, putting everyone inside at similar risk regardless of where they sit.

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    AZ vaccine provides little protection against B 1.351 variant

    Between June 24 and November 9, 2020, we enrolled 2026 HIV-negative adults (median age, 30 years); 1010 and 1011 participants received at least one dose of placebo or vaccine, respectively. Both the pseudovirus and the live-virus neutralization assays showed greater resistance to the B.1.351 variant in serum samples obtained from vaccine recipients than in samples from placebo recipients. In the primary end-point analysis, mild-to-moderate Covid-19 developed in 23 of 717 placebo recipients (3.2%) and in 19 of 750 vaccine recipients (2.5%), for an efficacy of 21.9% (95% confidence interval [CI], −49.9 to 59.8). Among the 42 participants with Covid-19, 39 cases (92.9%) were caused by the B.1.351 variant; vaccine efficacy against this variant, analyzed as a secondary end point, was 10.4% (95% CI, −76.8 to 54.8). The incidence of serious adverse events was balanced between the vaccine and placebo groups.

    CONCLUSIONS

    A two-dose regimen of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine did not show protection against mild-to-moderate Covid-19 due to the B.1.351 variant. (Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04444674. opens in new tab; Pan African Clinical Trials Registry number, PACTR202006922165132. opens in new tab).
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2102214

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    Newsweek email

    "The COVID-19 vaccine from AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford was

    79 percent effective in preventing coronavirus in a large clinical trial in the U.S.,

    offering complete protection against the worst outcomes from the disease

    while causing no serious side effects,

    according to data released on Monday."

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    Currently ~5450th in line for a Moderna appointment.


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    Currently ~5450th in line for a Moderna appointment.


    I wish our dumb city had a better registration process.

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    Moving along OK. Might be able to sign up between 10-11.

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