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    The US might as well accept that China will be the leading international player in your lifetimes. We already can't support Taiwan and China will take it back whenever they want it
    Yes they can.
    Not without a fight.
    They know this.
    They dont need for this to happen quickly.

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    Global hegemon? There can be only one.

    No more bi-polarity?

    Has a multipolar world even been considered?
    I dont think China has aspirations of invading the US, but I think they will keep building worldwide influence while watching the US eventually implode. Our human rights bluster and hypocrisy will never allow the US and China to be political buddies.

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    I dont think China has aspirations of invading the US, but I think they will keep building worldwide influence while watching the US eventually implode. Our human rights bluster and hypocrisy will never allow the US and China to be political buddies.
    So authoritarianism wins the day over democracy...

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    Yes they can.
    Not without a fight.
    They know this.
    They dont need for this to happen quickly.
    China can already knock out Taiwans airforce and patriot missiles in the first 24 hours. They will be sitting ducks. China has enough sophisticated missiles to keep the US navy at a distance and we will NEVER land ground troops to delay the inevitable. That will be Chinas coming out party to announce they are the new king on the block.

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    China can already knock out Taiwans airforce and patriot missiles in the first 24 hours. They will be sitting ducks. China has enough sophisticated missiles to keep the US navy at a distance and we will NEVER land ground troops to delay the inevitable. That will be Chinas coming out party to announce they are the new king on the block.
    They will not damage Taiwan when they can have it playing the long game.
    There does not need to be a shot fired. Taiwan has missiles as well. We have armed Taiwan so China can get hurt, and so they will have to clean up a big mess. There is no reason to go now, or they already would have. They wont even outright take Hong Kong, they dont need to.

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    So authoritarianism wins the day over democracy...
    Yeah. In my opinion that will be the end result. One civilization in decline and one on the rise. (Again).

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    Yeah. In my opinion that will be the end result. One civilization in decline and one on the rise. (Again).
    Well I cant disagree.
    Democracy is messy.
    The right of the individual can be devalued again.

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    CC going full re in here.

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    They will not damage Taiwan when they can have it playing the long game.
    There does not need to be a shot fired. Taiwan has missiles as well. We have armed Taiwan so China can get hurt, and so they will have to clean up a big mess. There is no reason to go now, or they already would have. They wont even outright take Hong Kong, they dont need to.
    I'm not saying they are gonna invade today but they will make it clear that Taiwan n s option will be to capitulate or get blown to . China already has the capability. As for Hong Kong, they are already done. Protestors will gradually get eliminated. Ground work is already in Place.

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    Yeah. In my opinion that will be the end result. One civilization in decline and one on the rise. (Again).
    When your mindset already aligns with the Q s in this country, this line of thinking is not a leap for you.

    None of this drivel you’re talking about is gonna happen as long as we have a half dozen other countries on our side.

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    CC going full re in here.
    Reck again showing what a dumbass he is.

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    LMAO at Reck. Name the countries that will be on our side when China is the unchallenged #1 economy in the world. China is already setting the stage with banning other countries businesses that have the audacity to say anything about human rights. (See Chinese cotton and urghers)

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    I'm not saying they are gonna invade today but they will make it clear that Taiwan n s option will be to capitulate or get blown to . China already has the capability. As for Hong Kong, they are already done. Protestors will gradually get eliminated. Ground work is already in Place.
    Which is why I say they can play the same game with Taiwan without being reckless.
    If they attack Taiwan people will die in Taiwan and infrastructure will be damaged.
    They do not want this, they dont want to be seen as tyrannical.
    If they cut off Taiwan's trade with a blockade there are ways to get around it.

    Hong Kong still has protests and business that could never go on in Beijing.
    Agree the ground work is in, but they dont need to move quickly and recklessly like we have.

    They will play the long game imo. There is no rush.

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    LMAO at Reck. Name the countries that will be on our side when China is the unchallenged #1 economy in the world. China is already setting the stage with banning other countries businesses that have the audacity to say anything about human rights. (See Chinese cotton and urghers)
    Damn CC you have gone full re here. China isn't a rising power, they have risen. This is peak China and they only got here by our goodwill. You're talking about a country that can't grow enough food to feed it's own people, no energy resources, and is not a naval power replacing the worlds only super power.

    The countries that would be on our side would be every country that matters.

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    I dont think China has aspirations of invading the US,
    You don't think lol

    The US cannot be invaded. Every country knows that.

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    Snakeboi roiled.

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    You don't think lol

    The US cannot be invaded. Every country knows that.
    Neither can China, Russia or Iran, be invaded. even Afghanistan and Vietnam. Cannot be invaded.

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    Neither can China, Russia or Iran, be invaded. even Afghanistan and Vietnam. Cannot be invaded.
    Sure they can.
    But why?

    Fortunately economics override the stupidity of all out war (for the most part). The problem is with the democratic and authoritarian governments who get desperate narcissistic leaders. NK is a problem. And based on some of the democratically elected leaders I now personally worry about how desperate they can become if they are more about themselves than their country.

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    The countries that would be on our side would be every country that matters.
    Countries that were powerless against rapefugees on banana boats. Still to this day can't deport them! They just loiter around.

    Modern liberalism openly seeks to weaken men. How many times has "toxic masculinity" been posted on here.

    The West will be preoccupied arguing what uniforms aren't racist or sexist.

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    Countries that were powerless against rapefugees on banana boats. Still to this day can't deport them! They just loiter around.
    What countries are you talking about?

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    Neither can China, Russia or Iran, be invaded. even Afghanistan and Vietnam. Cannot be invaded.
    You're confusing invading/conquering and ruling. Afghanistan and Vietnam can and have been invaded/conquered. It's just those ers have proved they would rather live in caves and tunnels than be ruled.

    China & Russia can and have been invaded but they can't be conquered due to their vast and harsh geography.

    USA is protected by oceans and allies that we control to the north and south. Plus we are blessed with all the natural resources we need including energy thanks to fracking. So being the richest most secure country on the planet of course makes us ultra paranoid so we over react to everything .

    After thousands of years China is still boxed in by enemies and geography but finally gets to the point where all of it's people can make $2/day instead of starving and Americans are freaking out that we going to be taken over by the ChiComs lol.

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    What countries are you talking about?
    Western Europe

    I doubt the Saudis will back USA against China. They won't answer the call for "democracy".

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    May both those countries burn in ... Or better yet those in charge. I feel so bad for their citizens trapped in their dystopias due to the evil that governs them.

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    LMAO at Reck. Name the countries that will be on our side when China is the unchallenged #1 economy in the world. China is already setting the stage with banning other countries businesses that have the audacity to say anything about human rights. (See Chinese cotton and urghers)
    Wreck can always do latex instead of cotton at his tranny clubs. She's not bothered.

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    Western Europe

    I doubt the Saudis will back USA against China. They won't answer the call for "democracy".
    Oh western Europe is ed. Be we don't need western Europe. With Russia being a dying country there is nothing we need from Europe anymore and since all of western Europe forgot to have kids they don't offer a market to us at all.

    In the context of China the countries that matter, all of the indo-pacific countries, the aussies, India, they all have one thing in common...they hate China.

    I don't know why you mention Saudi as a country that matters to the USA. They have no military capabilities and we are now energy independent. Only becoming more so as we move toward electrification. Securing middle east oil supplies is soon to be Europe and Asia's problem, not ours. Literally the only thing in this country that the left and right agree on is no more wars for oil.

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