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    Dude, GOP leaders are meeting with at Trump at Mar A Lago. Lindsay Graham recently said it's still Trump's party.

    147 House members voted not to certify the election afterr rioters made them scurry for their lives.

    You've got your head in the sand.
    Link?

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    Crime =/= overthrow of government. You have work to do to even get close to showing it was an overthrow attempt. Disrupt? Sure.. overthrow? hardly.. seeing Trump was the sitting POTUS and no one had a firearm other than the cap police. Hyperbole gets you in trouble every time.
    It was a violent attack on the government, aimed at preventing EC certification -- the peaceful transfer of power. That it failed or was inept doesn't matter. Mens rea.

    Stop the steal.

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    Don't mind if do.


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    It was a violent attack on the government, aimed at preventing EC certification -- the peaceful transfer of power. That it failed or was inept doesn't matter. Mens rea.

    Stop the steal.
    You're referring to the criminal aspect of the act. I already acknowledged it was a criminal act and even went so far as to say they should have been shot while storming the place. What you haven't shown is that it was an attempt to overthrow the federal government. It's a crime to walk up to to someone and grope them. It doesn't cons ute rape though.

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    Not bad. I would have toasted the bun and added sautéed onions.

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    You don't do fetch missions, why should I do one for you?

    It's all easily checked if you're really curious, but you're not.

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    You're referring to the criminal aspect of the act. I already acknowledged it was a criminal act and even went so far as to say they should have been shot while storming the place. What you haven't shown is that it was an attempt to overthrow the federal government. It's a crime to walk to to someone and grope them. It doesn't cons ute rape though.
    Yeah it was just a coincidence they were saying they were there to hang Pence on January 6th.

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    Yeah it was just a coincidence they were saying they were there to hang Pence on January 6th.
    No one tried to hang pence just like the "I smell bacon" people didn't try to burn the police alive.

    Video Shows NYC Protesters Chanting for “Dead Cops”

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...otest/2015303/


    Still doesn't amount to overthrowing the federal government. Having someone chanting doesn't equate to an attack.

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    You're referring to the criminal aspect of the act. I already acknowledged it was a criminal act and even went so far as to say they should have been shot while storming the place.
    The crowd was armed, and capol protectors very outnumbered. Escalation might have been suicide. Are you familiar with Mike Fannone?

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    wrong thread

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    You don't do fetch missions, why should I do one for you?

    It's all easily checked if you're really curious, but you're not.
    You're claiming it and you've posted a number of times with hearsay. I can just as easily dismiss your claims as bull , it's your call.

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    Weird, haven't said about you.

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    You're claiming it and you've posted a number of times with hearsay. I can just as easily dismiss your claims as bull , it's your call.
    You'd be mostly wrong, but be my guest.

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    You'd be mostly wrong, but be my guest.
    Again, your call. If you cannot support your assertions then you don't really put much stock in them. Why should I?

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    I don't believe I'm a hypocrite for ignoring Madonna's ludicrous and completely unserious threat and pointing out DJT's real attempt to derail the certification of the 2020 election by the US Congress, no.

    Beforehand, Trump lobbied the VP to set the EC results aside, after his attempts to corrupt state officials didn't work.
    Before that, there were 59 completely evidence free election challenges. All of which were dismissed.
    The Nevada ruling could have rested content with laches, but went beyond that to address the paucity of the evidence. Similar happened in Georgia and Wisconsin.
    PA spanked his challenges too.
    In 2020, Trump ran against the election as such.

    He's still doing it.

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    and the GOP has his back

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    Bum rush the Senate, kill the presiding officer and anyone else you can get your hands on. It might have worked if the pipe bombs had gone off.

    What do you think they were trying to do?

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    det stochastic violence, tho

    I'd be happy to provide an updated list of recent extremism-related mass murders in the US upon request.

    I presume you can provide one of recent left wing extremist massacres in the US, to show us it's exactly the same on both sides.

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    Must be off the wagon again. You've quoted yourself multiple times and you're talking 3rd space now.

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    Our state should not be able to vote in federal elections if this goes forward and becomes the norm.
    nah, Congress can nuke the filibuster and pass the For The People Act, if they have the ganas.

    also, DOJ is watching.

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    Must be off the wagon again. You've quoted yourself multiple times and you're talking 3rd space now.
    you're not addressing any of it, but just talking about me.

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    I've never seen the GOP so attached to a loser.

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    Seems like you guys are attached.
    How can we miss him if he won't go away?

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    A Sleepy Interregnum?

    The Inauthentic Opposition Party of Filibusted Appeasement


    The Trump Republicans are a neofascist party.

    They sought to subvert and then nullify a presidential election under cult command of an authoritarian racist who encouraged talk of “civil war” and

    instigated an attack on the US Capitol in an open attempt

    to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s victory on the grounds of a Nazi-style Big Lie.

    Four in ten Republicans polled by the American Enterprise Ins ute after the Attack on the Capitol supported the use of violence to achieve political ends.

    Eight in ten Republicans thought the American political system is “stacked against conservatives and people with traditional values.”

    A majority of Republicans agreed with this statement:

    “The traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that
    we may have to use force to save it.

    Fifty percent of Republicans absurdly believe that something called “Antifa” was behind the January 6 Attack on the Capitol.

    The malevolent monster in Mar a Lago will decide who his party runs or federal and even some state elections. His choices are all about allegiance to Him.

    State election officials who certified Biden’s victory are being replaced by Trump loyalists.

    Republican legislators had introduced 361 bills to restrict voting rights in 47 states,

    These are clear Amerikaner-fascist efforts to quash non-white and urban votes

    passing droves of arch-reactionary bills meant to

    suppress Black and LatinX voting,

    criminalize liberal and left protest,

    undermine COVID-19 protections, and

    prevent educators from talking about racism in American history past and present.

    “The Threat of Civil War Didn’t End with the Trump Presidency”:

    “A significant chunk of the American electorate now resides in an alternative universe of facts about the nation’s elections

    while continuing to share the same political space with the rest of the country.

    What might that entail four and eight years from now?

    Let’s assume for the sake of a thought experiment that the 2024 election pits Joe Biden against Trump or a Trumpist Republican,

    that Biden prevails in the popular vote by a healthy margin,

    that the Electoral College is decided by three states controlled by Republican officials where Biden prevailed by just a couple of percentage points, and

    that the GOP controls a majority of the state delegations to the House of Representatives.

    In this scenario, the three key state legislatures, citing unsubstantiated stories of election fraud,

    refuse to certify the official slate of Democratic electors and appoint an alternative slate ready to vote for the Republican candidate.”

    “This would throw the Electoral College into chaos, requiring the House to assume responsibility for the final outcome.

    Republicans are favored to take control of the House in 2022,

    but already they control a majority of the state delegations.

    We’re all looking forward to our next great quadrennial electoral extravaganzas!

    The Democrats are part of the dystopian trajectory.

    They are the GOP’s corporate neoliberal inauthentic opposition –

    a neo-Weimar party of appeasement.

    “It was as though Donald Trump had not, in the course of his campaign,

    promised to deport US citizens,

    promised to create a system of surveillance targeted specifically at Muslim Americans,

    promised to build a wall on the border with Mexico,

    advocated war crimes,

    endorsed torture, and

    repeatedly threatened to jail Hillary Clinton herself.

    It was as though those statements and many more could be written off as so much campaign hyperbole and

    now that the campaign was over, Trump would be eager to become a regular, rule-abiding politician of the pre-Trump era
    (emphasis added)”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05...d-appeasement/


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