See, you'll entertain D when he's spot on. But never ever me. That ain't right, El.
He's not spot on, he's trolling...
Did you go drinking with Darrin before thinking this one up?
For someone who hurr dee durrs about logical fallacies, you sure do go out of your way to commit them.
Vicious retort. I'll need time to process this.
How many more months / years will it be til the cult re s who did serious damage are in court?
That's a good question.
The DOJ website does list the docket numbers, so I guess we can pick a few to track. Might be interesting.
A lot of the charges are recent, and courts have been backed up due to the pandemic, so I imagine it is moving fairly slowly.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
One of the columns has "current status"
A read through of the column shows most of the cases have "status hearings" set for Jun-early Sep
Not sure what the status hearings generally are for, but know a litigating attorney I can pester about explaining it to me.
The fun thing about the pacing of the status hearings is that they will drip drip drip in over MONTHS, then go to trial after that. Drip Drip Drip.
This thread is not going away, and will have fresh material every week.
Looks like that is what is going down. Oath keepers are going to get some very lengthy prison sentences.
Oath Keeper charged over Capitol riot planned extensively online and stormed the building in military formation, prosecutors say
David Moerschel, 43, is the latest alleged Oath Keepers member charged over the Capitol riot.
Prosecutors allege that he planned his actions on January 6 in calls with fellow militia members.
They cited video appearing to show him acting in formation with other uniformed men.
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A man accused of storming the Capitol as part of the Oath Keepers group extensively planned the attack online, according to federal prosecutors.
David Moerschel, 43, from Punta Gorda, Florida was arrested on Friday and charged with three counts including conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding, according to the criminal complaint.
Investigators identified Moerschel in video from the Capitol wearing Oath Keepers gear and say he appeared to employ military-style tactics on January 6.
The complaint says that investigators linked Moerschel's phone number to around 17 planning calls between September 28, 2020, and January 3, 2021, with other Oath Keepers charged in connection with the riot.
Other members alleged to be involved include Kelly Meggs and Kenneth Harrelson. The meetings, per the complaint, had names like "florida dc op planning chat" and "dc planning call".
The complaint did not offer details of what was discussed on the calls.
It is part of a growing body of evidence submitted by prosecutors arguing that militia groups extensively planned an attack on January 6, despite its outward appearance of a spontaneous eruption of violence.
Prosecutors have previously described Kelly Meggs as a "team leader" of the Oath Keepers. He is said to have organised an "alliance" with another militia group - the Three Percenters - ahead of the Capitol riot.
Surveillance footage shows David Moerschel (red arrow) and Kelly Meggs (green arrow) walking towards the eastern facade of the Capitol at 2:27 pm on January 6. Department of Justice
Various Oath Keepers, including David Moerschel, pictured inside the Capitol on January 6. Department of Justice
One video cited in the complaint shows a group of Oath Keepers including Moerschel approaching a set of doors leading into the Capitol in what prosecutors described as a "stack" formation (around the 3:08 mark).
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oath-keep...102807126.html
Still no antifa.
Derp.
DOJ charges Capitol riot suspect with attacking AP photographer
Posted: July 7, 2021 3:16 PM
by CNN
Alan Byerly, who is one of many Capitol riot defendants arrested recently in connection with attacks on journalists or media equipment, is accused of several federal crimes, including assault on a federal officer, obstructing law enforcement and the assault against the photographer. He hasn’t yet entered a plea.
The gang assault against the AP photographer was captured on video. It shows the photographer, John Minchillo, surrounded by pro-Trump rioters who repeatedly shove him and throw him over a ledge. Prosecutors allege that Byerly used both hands to grab at the photographer’s face, neck and chest. A Good Samaritan in the crowd later tries to escort the photographer to safety.
https://www.channel3000.com/doj-char...-photographer/
Surprise, surprise some of them were armed.
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Jan. 6 rioter from Texas charged with bringing gun to Capitol, undercutting claims that pro-Trump mob was unarmed
Guy Reffitt, Texan charged with being armed during the Capitol riot.
WASHINGTON, DC — The Justice Department on Thursday charged a U.S. Capitol rioter with bringing a handgun onto Capitol grounds — two days after a hearing where Republican lawmakers downplayed the deadly attack and claimed the pro-Trump rioters were unarmed.
The new charge was filed against Guy Reffitt, a Texan whose case received national attention after his own family members told the FBI that he threatened to kill them if they turned him in.
Prosecutors said in the new indictment that Reffitt carried a “deadly and dangerous weapon,” specifically a “semi-automatic handgun,” while he was unlawfully on Capitol grounds. He isn’t accused of entering the building itself. But it’s still against the law to breach the perimeter of the Capitol complex and storm past fences and barricades, which Reffitt was photographed doing.
This undermines Republican efforts to whitewash the January 6 insurrection. GOP lawmakers have pushed false-flag theories that the FBI, antifa or Black Lives Matter were behind the attack. They also claimed the mob was “unarmed,” even though rioters are accused of bringing guns and knives to the Capitol and using bear spray, flagpoles and baseball bats to attack police.
Reffitt is charged with five crimes, including felony obstruction of Congress. He hasn’t entered a plea to the new indictment, but he previously pleaded not guilty to some of the same charges.
According to court do ents from earlier in the case, Reffitt allegedly told his son and other family members that he “brought his gun with him” when he was storming the Capitol area.
The new indictment was filed days after a House oversight hearing about the attack where several Republicans used their time to push false narratives and even defend the rioters. Several GOP lawmakers specifically claimed that the rioters at the Capitol were “unarmed.”
“Defendants and the propagandists claim that this was an armed insurrection. But no guns were found, according to assistant director of FBI. Another lie debunked,” Republican Rep. Andy Biggs said.
Republicans also pressed FBI Director Chris Wray about the firearms issue at the hearing.
“There has been at least one instance of someone arrested with a firearm in the Capitol,” Wray said, likely referring to a separate case of a rioter found with a handgun, “and there have been a number of arrests of individuals either en route to the Capitol or near the Capitol for the siege.
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https://kvia.com/your-voice-your-vot...b-was-unarmed/
[shrugs]
Some of the crowd were armed. Not to shocking given the size, and political bent.
Why is that part funny? What about the next couple of sentences? Is that funny too?
Yea, they're funny too. Did you not see the barricades when you entered your house and found that dude violating your wife?
Pay attention to barricades and you won't get hurt next time, blake.
No antifa, you ing moron.
Pretty plainly all right-wing violence, coordinated and instigated by proudboys and oathkeepers.
The ones that are going to prison for a long time.
All Trump supporters at the time. why is he throwing us under the bus? where is our pardon?
498 murderers, vandals, rioters, and insurrectionists arrested so far. So close to 500, and the most violent ones are going to make for some spectacular prison sentences. I can't wait.
ABUAL-RAGHEB, Rasha N.
ADAMS JR., Thomas B.
ADAMS, Daniel Page
ADAMS, Howard Berton
ADAMS, Jared Hunter
ALAM, Zachary Jordan
ALBERTS, Christopher Michael
ALFORD, Russell Dean
ALLAN, Tommy Frederick
ALLEN, Chase Kevin
ALVARADO, Wilmar Jeovanny Montano
ALVEAR GONZALEZ, Eduardo Nicolas (aka, Alvear Gonzalez Eduardo Nicolas; aka, Nicolas Alvear)
ANDERSON, John Steven
ANDRIES, John D.
ANTONIO, Anthony Alexander
ASHLOCK, Ryan
AUNGST, Mark Roderick
AYRES, Stephen Michael
BACON, Noah S.
BAEZ, Stephanie
BAGGOTT, Matthew
BAKER, Stephen Maury
BALLESTEROS, Robert
BANCROFT, Dawn
BARANYI, Thomas
BARBER, Eric
BARNARD, Richard Franklin
BARNES, Joseph
BARNETT, Richard
BAUER, Pauline
BAUER, Robert L.
BECKLEY, Damon Michael
BENNETT, Andrew
BENNETT, Bradley Stuart
BETANCUR, Bryan (aka Bryan Clooney, aka Maximo Clooney)
BIGGS, Joseph Randall
BINGERT, Craig Michael
BINGHAM, Brian Glenn
BISHAI, Elliot
BISIGNANO, Gina Mic e
BISSEY, Dona Sue
BLACK, Joshua Matthew
BLAIR, David Alan
BLAKELY, Kevin Sam
BLEDSOE, Matthew
BOCHENE, Eric
BONET, James
BOZELL IV, Leo Brent
BREHENY, James
BROCK, Larry Rendall
BROCKHOFF, Nicholas James
BRODNAX, Antionne
BROMLEY, Phillip Andrew
BRONSBURG, Tammy A. (aka, Tammy Butry)
BROWN, Gabriel
BROWN, Terry
BROWN, Trevor
BRU, Marc Anthony
BUSTLE, Jessica
BUSTLE, Joshua Kahle
BUTEAU, Jamie N.
BUTEAU, Jennifer Peck
BYERLY, Alan William
CALDWELL, Daniel Ray
CALDWELL, Thomas Edward
CALHOUN Jr., William Mccall
CAMARGO, Samuel
CAMPER, Boyd Allen
CANTWELL, Lewis Easton
CAPSEL, Matthew
CARLTON, Jonathan Daniel
CARPENTER, Sara
CASTRO, Mariposa
CAVANAUGH, Andrew
CHANSLEY, Jacob Anthony (aka, Jacob Angeli)
CHAPMAN, Robert
CHRESTMAN, William
CHRISTENSEN, Reed Knox
CHWIESIUK, Karol J.
CIARPELLI, Albert A.
CLARK, Christy
CLARK, Eric Douglas
CLARK, Jacob Travis
CLARK, Matthew
COFFEE, Luke Russell
COFFMAN, Lonnie Leroy
COLON, Louis Enrique
COLT, Josiah
CONNELL, Cody Page Carter
COOKE, Nolan B.
COPELAND, Landon Kenneth
CORDON, Kevin Francisco
CORDON, Sean Carlo
CORTEZ, Christian
COSTIANES, Elias
COUNCIL, Matthew
COURTRIGHT, Gracyn Dawn
CRASE, Dalton Ray
CREEK, Kevin Douglas
CROSBY Jr., Richard T.
CROWL, Donovan Ray
CROY, Glenn Wes Lee
CUA, Bruno Joseph
CUDD, Jenny Louise
CURZIO, Michael
CUSICK Jr., James Varnell
CUSICK, Casey
DAUGHTRY, Michael Shane
DECARLO, Nicholas
DEGRAVE, Nathaniel J. (aka, Nathan DeGrave)
DONOHOE, Charles
DOOLIN, Joshua Christopher
DOYLE, Danielle Nicole
DRESCH, Karl
DUONG, Fi
EDWARDS, Gary
EGTVEDT, Daniel Dean
EHMKE, Hunter Allen
EHRKE, Valerie Elaine
EISENHART, Lisa
ERICSON, Andrew C.
EVANS III, Treniss Jewell
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FAIRLAMB, Scott Kevin
FAULKNER, Troy Elbert
FEE, Thomas
FELLOWS, Brandon
FINLEY, Jeffrey
FISCHER, Joseph W.
FISHER, Samuel J. (aka Brad Holiday)
FITCHETT, Cindy
FITZGERALD, Michael
FITZSIMONS, Kyle
FOY, Michael Joseph
FRACKER, Jacob
GALETTO, Kevin Louis
GALLAGHER, Thomas
GARCIA, Gabriel Augustin
GARDNER II, Mitc Todd
GENCO, Raechel
GERDING, Christina
GERDING, Jason
GETSINGER Jr., John Hubert
GIESWEIN, Robert
GIONET, Anthime Joseph
GOLD, Simone Melissa
GOODWYN, Daniel
GORDON, Vaughn
GOSSJANKOWSKI, Vitali
GRACE, Jeffrey
GRACE, Jeremy
GRAY, Daniel Paul
GRAYSON, Kenneth
GREENE, Matthew
GRIDER, Christopher Ray
GRIFFIN, Couy
GRIFFITH SR., Anthony Alfred
GRIFFITH, Jack Jesse (aka Juan Bibiano)
GRILLO, Philip Sean
GRISWOLD, Andrew
GRODS, Mark
GROSECLOSE, Jeremy
GROVER, Logan
GRUPPO, Leonard
GUNDERSEN, Brian
HAGER, Stacy Wade
HALE-CUSANELLI, Timothy Louis
HARDIN, Michael Lee
HARDING, Peter J.
HARGIS-GETSINGER, Stacie Ann
HARKRIDER, Alex Kirk
HARRELSON, Kenneth
HARRIS, Johnny
HARRIS, Richard L.
HARRISON, Bruce J.
HART, Timothy Allen
HATLEY, Andrew
HAYNES, Joshua Dillon
HAZELTON, Stephanie (aka Ayla Wolf, aka Ayla Wolfe)
HEAD, Albuquerque Cosper
HEINL, Jennifer
HEMENWAY, Edward
HENDRIX, Nicholas Patrick
HERENDEEN, Daniel
HERNANDEZ, Andrew Alan
HERNANDEZ, Emily
HERRINGTON, Dillon Colby
HILES, Jacob
HODGKINS, Paul Allard
L, Dillon Paul
HONEYCUTT, Adam Avery
HORN, Stephen Ethan
HORNING, James Matthew
HOWELL, Annie
HUGHES, Jerod Wade
HUGHES, Joshua Calvin
HUTCHINSON III, Joseph Daniel
HYLAND, Jason Lee
IANNI, Suzanne (aka, Sue Ianni)
IRIZARRY, Elias
IVEY, Bryan Wayne
JACKMAN, Arthur
JACKSON, Emanuel
JACKSON, Micajah Joel
JAMES, Joshua
JANCART, Derek
JENKINS, Shane
JENSEN, Douglas Austin
JOHNATAKIS, Taylor James
JOHNSON, Adam
JOHNSON, Daniel
JOHNSON, Daryl
JOHNSON, Paul Russell
JONES, Caleb
JONES, Chad Barrett
JUDD, David Lee
JURAN, John
JURLINA, Zvonimir Joseph
KELLER, Klete Derik
KELLY, Christopher M.
KELLY, Kari
KELLY, Kash Lee
KELLY, Kenneth
KELLY, Leo
KHATER, Julian Elie
KIDD, Nolan Harold
KLEIN, Federico
KLEIN, Matthew
KNOWLTON, Brady
KONOLD, Cory
KONOLD, Felicia
KOSTOLSKY, Jackson
KRAMER, Philip Edward
KUEHNE, Christopher
KULAS, Christian
LANG, Edward Jacob
LANGUERAND, Nicholas
LAROCCA, Benjamin
LAURENS, Jonathan Davis
LAZO, Kene Brian
LEFFINGWELL, Mark
LENTZ, Nicholes J.
LESPERANCE, David John
LEWIS, Jacob
LINDSEY, Terry Lynn
LITTLE, James
LOFTUS, Kevin
LOGANBILL, Matthew Eugene
LOLLAR, Joshua R.
LOLOS, John
LOPATIC Sr, Michael John
LUNYK, Anton
LYON, Robert Anthony
LYONS, Kevin James
MACKRELL, Clifford
MADDEN, Dominic
MAIMONE, Debra J.
MALDONADO, Steve Omar (aka, Emilio Maldonado)
MARIOTTO, Anthony R. (aka, Tony Mariotto)
MARKOFSKI, Abram
MARQUEZ, Felipe
MARTIN, Matthew
MARTIN, Zachary Hayes (aka Zac Martin)
MAZZOCCO, Matthew Carl
MCAULIFFE, Justin
MCCAUGHEY, Patrick
MCCREARY, Brian
MCDONALD, Savannah Danielle
MCGREW, James Burton
MCHUGH, Sean Michael
MCKELLOP, Jeffrey
MEGGS, Connie
MEGGS, Kelly
MELLIS, Jonathan Gennaro (aka, Jon Gennaro)
MELS, James Allen
MEREDITH Jr., Cleveland Grover
MERRY Jr., William D.
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MIDDLETON, Mark
MILEUR, Aaron James
MILLER, Brandon
MILLER, Garret
MILLER, Matthew Ryan
MILLER, Stephanie
MINK, Jorden Robert
MINUTA, Roberto A.
MISH Jr., David Charles
MOAT, Anthony Richard
MOCK, Brian Christopher
MOERSCHEL, David
MONCADA, Nicolas Anthony
MONTGOMERY, Patrick
MONTONI, Corinne
MONTOYA, Samuel Christopher
MORGAN Jr., Andrew Jackson
MORGAN-LLOYD, Anna
MORSS, Robert
MOSTOFSKY, Aaron
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MOYNIHAN, Christopher
MULLINS, Clayton Ray
MUNAFO, Jonathan J.
MUNCHEL, Eric Gavelek
MUNTZER, Henry Phillip (aka, Hank Muntzer)
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NELSON, Brandon
NICHOLS, Ryan
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O'MALLEY, Timothy Earl
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PALMER, Robert Scott
PARKER, Bennie Alvin
PARKER, Sandra Ruth
PARKS, Jennifer Ruth
PARKS, Stewart
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PEPE, William
PERKINS, Michael
PERNA, Matthew
PERT, Rachael Lynn
PETERSON, Kurt
PETERSON, Russell James
PETROSH, Robert Lee
PEZZOLA, Dominic (aka Spaz, aka Spazzo, Aka Spazzolini)
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PHIPPS, Daniel D.
POLLOCK, Olivia Mic e
PONDER, Mark
POPE, Michael
POPE, William Alexander
POWELL, Rachel Marie
PRADO, Nicole
PRESLEY, Ronnie Bryan
PRICE, Shawn
PRIOLA, Christine
PRUITT, Joshua
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PURSE, Matthew Thomas
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QUICK, Stephen Brian
RAE, Paul
RAHM III, James Douglas
RANDOLPH, Stephen Chase
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REDA, Kenneth John
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REFFITT, Guy Wesley
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REVLETT, Jordan T
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RIDGE, Leonard Pearso
RILEY, Jorge A.
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ROCHE, Michael Lee
RODEAN, Nicholas
RODRIGUEZ, Daniel
RODRIGUEZ, Edward Francisco
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SANDOVAL JR., Salvador
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SANFORD, Robert
SANTOS-SMITH, Diana
SARGENT, Troy
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SIDORSKI, Dennis
SILLS, Geoffrey William
SIMON, Glen Mitc
SIMON, Mark
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SMOCKS, Troy Anthony
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SPARKS, Michael
SPENCER, Christopher Raphael (aka, Chris Spencer)
SPENCER, Virginia Marie (aka, Jenny Spencer)
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ST CYR, Yvonne
STACKHOUSE, Lawrence Earl
STAGER, Peter
STECHER, Ezekiel Kurt
STEDMAN, Patrick
STEELE, Laura
STEELE-SMITH, Melody
STENZ, Brian E.
STEPAKOFF, Michael
STEVENS, Tristan Chandler
STOLL, Justin
STOTTS, Jordan Kenneth
STRAKA, Brandon
STRAND, John Herbert
STRONG, Kevin
STURGEON, Isaac Steve
SUAREZ, Marissa A.
SULESKI, Ryan Seth
SULLIVAN, John Earl
SUNSTROM, Traci J.
SWEET, Douglas
SYWAK, William Jason
SYWAK, William Michael
TANIOS, George
THOMAS, Kenneth Joseph Owen
THOMPSON, Dustin Byron
THURLOW, Steven
TIMBROOK, Michael
TODISCO, Patricia
TORRE, Benjamin Henry
TORRENS, Eric Chase
TUTROW, Israel
UPTMORE, Chance Anthony
UPTMORE, James Herman (aka "Sonny")
VARGAS SANTOS, Hector Emmanuel
VINSON, Lori Ann (aka, Lori Ann Utley)
VINSON, Thomas Roy
VOGEL, Philip C.
VOGEL, William
VON BERNEWITZ, Eric V.
VON BERNEWITZ, Paul H.
VOROUS, Jeremy
WAGNER, Joshua
WALDEN, Carey Jon
WALDEN, Jonathan
WANGLER, Douglas K.
WARMUS, Daniel
WARNAGIRIS, Christopher
WATKINS, Jessica
WATSON, Sean David
WATSON, William Wright
WEBSTER, Thomas
WEEKS, Bradley
WEIBLING, Adam Mark
WESTBURY, Jonah Elijah
WESTOVER, Paul S.
WEYER, Sandra Suzanne
WHITE, Victoria Charity
WHITTON, Jack Wade
WILKERSON IV, John Clarence
WILLAMS, Troy Dylan
WILLDEN, Ricky C.
WILLIAMS, Andrew
Williams, Anthony Robert
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth Rose
WILLIAMS, Riley June
WILLIAMS, Timothy Wayne
WILSON, Duke Edward
WILSON, Zachary John
WINN, Dana Joe
WITCHER, Jeffrey Shane
WITZEMANN, Shawn Bradley
WOOD, Matthew Mark
WOODS, Shane Jason
WORRELL, Christopher
WRIGHT, John Douglas
WRIGLEY, Andrew
YAZDANI, Elijah
ZINK, Ryan Scott
ZLAB, Joseph Elliott
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
Not antifa, Spurtacular, you were right about people being arrested, but it was your fellow cult members.
Oh, absolutely, you're gonna make an example out of them. This ain't no George Floyd moment, by God, not by a jugful it ain't.
& the lion's share of the puttin' 'em on the spot during sentencing is because you'll live in regret (ever more) for not opening fire on 'em, mowin' 'em down like army guys when we was kids.
Talk to the hand.
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