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    Well, I called Rasho to Toronto. That'll be the only one I get right. Luck.

    I'm glad that stiff Aruajo wasn't part of the package.

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    Unless they sign Przybilla or Ben Wallace, they could want Nazr simply by default -- there's always a shortage of centers. The alternatives are guys like Cato.
    Or David Andersen, whom they own the rights to. Or the #5 pick.

    I don't know what it is, Billy Knight must have mad powerpoint skills or something to sell his owners on his weird vision of the future and be so patient with all the losing and losses.

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    Chicago has the room to sign Nazr outright and unless the Spurs were willing to take back a contract the Bulls didn't want or the Bulls need the extra space, I'm not really seeing them as a great potential S&T partner.
    Agree and Chicago hasn't a bad contract.
    We will get something for Nazr in a S&T if he wants to play in a team over the cap and if this team is ready to give him more than the MLE.

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    I'm glad that stiff Aruajo wasn't part of the package.
    It was a pleasant surprise getting someone back who might actually play for us.

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    CD - since when you are interested in NBA?

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    Or David Andersen, whom they own the rights to. Or the #5 pick.
    All possible. I don't have a clue what Atlanta will do. I just meant that he doesn't have to be their dream player to be someone they end up targeting.

    I don't know what it is, Billy Knight must have mad powerpoint skills or something to sell his owners on his weird vision of the future and be so patient with all the losing and losses.
    Maybe it's just that with the team's history, they don't have any confidence that they can do any better by dumping him.

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    How realistic is this, MB?

    I don't know but I did stay at a Holiday Inn...

    Anyways, the argument for it is that the Pacers seem likely to blow up their team this summer. Barry's deal is up in two years and it's not that expensive. He'd give them an experienced vet and he does play Jack's primary position. The Spurs need him in the deal to get the salaries right. If Indiana really wanted to clear cap soon the Spurs could send them Eric Williams. Not sure Jack's star has declined that much, but you never know. After that, I'd think the Spurs would have to add a sweetener such as a future pick, Beno, or Scola's rights. I'd think if the Pacers junk the current roster then they will be looking for picks, cap room, and young players on small contracts. The Spurs have the assets to put together a decent package to that end.

    From the Spurs' perspective, I'm not sure where they are at. They currently have $10.5 mil committed to Barry for 2006-08. Jack has $27.2 mil due him for the next 4 seasons. The Rose and Nesterovic trades erased something on the order of $38 million between 2006-09 from the Spurs' cap.

    The Spurs already have their big 3 locked up.

    I think the Spurs go a cheaper route. We'll see if that's the best.

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    I think Jack presents the Spurs with an excellent opportunity to buy low. His star isn't that high in the league now, but the talent is still there. In SA he can be that consistent 3rd or 4th scorer, the guy knocking down championship winning shots and quieting road crowds in the playoffs with his drives to the hole. At age 28 his current contract covers the remainder of his prime. This hasn't been discussed too much in here but the Spurs could use a little more toughness and heart on the current roster.

    Jack's game is tailor made for the 'new' NBA. A scoring swing with a solid jumper is not a bad thing in SA.

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    CD - since when you are interested in NBA?
    A fan since 87-88, took a greater interest about ten years later when I found the boards.

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    Agree and Chicago hasn't a bad contract.
    We will get something for Nazr in a S&T if he wants to play in a team over the cap and if this team is ready to give him more than the MLE.
    I would see the Chandler contract as a bad contract. Could be worse, but it's bad.

    Chicago does have a problem coming up in the next 2-3 years. They are loaded with talented perimeter players who will need their paydays. Nocioni, Deng, Gordon, Duhon, Hinrich, have all shown they deserve their money. On top of that, they have the #2 and the #16 in this draft to worry about.

    They don't want to be priced out of keeping their players and losing them for nothing. They could make a run at a superstar type with a package of a few of them, but the right one needs to come along.

    Meanwhile, throwing cap money at Nazr Mohammed just because it's there may not be the soundest idea. S&T'ing some minor pieces for him preserves the cap and doesn't thrust them further towards luxury cap territory.

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    I would see the Chandler contract as a bad contract. Could be worse, but it's bad.
    You're right. I forget Chandler.

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    Signing Jackson would mean the Spurs would owe him around $27.5 mil until 2010.

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    I know it has been discussed, but thought I would include it here. Actual quote from free agent Bobby Jackson, "I definitely want to be on a playoff contender, that's for sure. I want to be on a team that can make a run for the championship."

    I know he is injury prone, but sounds like he is ready to get down to business. He seems like a good option. I am sure there are better ones. I just thought I'd include a quote.

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    Bobby Jackson isnt a defender and shoots to much. I would rather see the Spurs bring in a Chucky Atkins or, even though he is old and the last thing we need is another old player, Lindsey Hunter, who can still defend and hit threes. Kind of what Charlie Ward was supposed to be. Al Harrington would also be a great fit.

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    Al Harrington wouldn't be a good fit. He would be a great fit. He will demand too much $$ though.

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    Al Harrington wouldn't be a good fit. He would be a great fit. He will demand too much $$ though.
    Totally agree, wish we could get him though

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    Summarize, please:

    best guesses for remaining Spurs moves.

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    Summarize, please:

    best guesses for remaining Spurs moves.
    Hopefully get a vet backup point, Chucky Atkins or Lindsey Hunter, bring over Javotkas or whatever is name is, maybe see what Ian Mahini can offer, trade Scolas rights for maybe like a Shane Battier, and sign Chris Wilcox if we can afford him

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    Sounds like Scola's rights for James White in draft

    Barry for a player like JR Smith

    Pick up either Duhon, Speedy or Jackson for back up pt guard.

    Is this right?

    Bonner starts. RJ off bench.

    Are people serious about consistently having Manu come in off the bench?

    Manu is our second best player (at least when he is healthy).

    In my opinion, if Manu and Tony both play at their best, Manu is better.
    Manu makes everyone around him better more than Tony. I think Tony will stay an all star quality pt guard (although he really plays more like a shooting guard). And while Tony's midrange j is pretty good, Manu is the far better 3 point shooter. Both finish well at the rim.

    Manu is only 29, right?

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    Hopefully get a vet backup point, Chucky Atkins or Lindsey Hunter, bring over Javotkas or whatever is name is, maybe see what Ian Mahini can offer, trade Scolas rights for maybe like a Shane Battier, and sign Chris Wilcox if we can afford him
    I'm normally a positive person, glass is half full but I don't like much of this:

    Hunter can't shoot. Battier can play defense and is a smart player, but not that great.

    Ian is too raw.

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    comments?

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    Everything you said sounds good, but no Bonner startin, and your right about Manu, he is more of a play maker than Tony. I dont even know who James White is

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    Everything you said sounds good, but no Bonner startin, and your right about Manu, he is more of a play maker than Tony. I dont even know who James White is

    I just heard about him from Kori and Infinite Styles.

    Kori's very trustworthy and what they were saying sounded awesome.

    They said that he was a very athletic guard/small forward who could defend all positions but the 5, was smart, could play some point, has improved his j and is explosive. He played for Cincinati.

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    I'm normally a positive person, glass is half full but I don't like much of this:

    Hunter can't shoot. Battier can play defense and is a smart player, but not that great.

    Ian is too raw.
    I know Ian is a stretch, but did you watch the Pistons this year in the playoffs and regular seaon? About the only other thing Linsay does besides play great d is shoot the three ball, look up his percentages, and besides I would rather have Duhon or Atkins

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    I don't think Bonner or Javtokas will start. I think whoever starts next to Tim isn't here yet. Hopefully the Spurs can get someone by trading Barry or sign-and-trading Nazr.

    I don't think the Spurs will get JR Smith -- looks like the Hornets are trying to use him to trade up the draft. I don't think Spurs will have the money to get Speedy here, but it could happen.

    And I find it interesting that there are rumors that the Spurs are trying to trade into the first round.

    And I'm looking forward to seeing who is on the Spurs summer league team.

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