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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    I think a common myth is that Horry is a small ball power forward. Horry is not. Horry you use to match up against more traditional frontcourts because his range and athleticism tends to be better than the average bigman in the post.
    Horry was having trouble staying in fornt of Dirk. That wouldn't have been a problem for Horry a few years ago. It wasn't a problem for Haslem.

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    I can't see the Spurs starting the season with either Javtokas or Bonner as a starter. More importantly, I can't see Pop allowing the Spurs to start the season with either of those guys getting starter's minutes. All of that fuels my belief that something will happen with the bigs before this offseason ends, whether that's resigning Nazr or making a deal to get another big. I'm convinced that there will be a veteran, legitimate big man who will start alongside Duncan at either center or at PF, but it won't be either Javtokas or Bonner.

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    Nazr is gone, and we will be better off for it. We will just have to trade for someone, because I dont see either f those guys starting either, unless Javtokas is a lot better than we think

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    i actually think Javtokas could start in this league. hes definitely strong and big enough to compete with the leagues best centers. but he is unexperienced in this league. get a solid center to keep things straight down low, and javtokas will be starting in a few years. or like i have said before. Duncan at center, and try to get Drew Gooden at PF

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    Besides speculations the only fact is that Rasho is gone, am I right?

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    i actually think Javtokas could start in this league. hes definitely strong and big enough to compete with the leagues best centers. but he is unexperienced in this league. get a solid center to keep things straight down low, and javtokas will be starting in a few years. or like i have said before. Duncan at center, and try to get Drew Gooden at PF
    Whether the Spurs are downplaying Javtokas for the sake of keeping expectations low or have some genuine reservations about him, I'm fairly certain that when the powers-that-be have commented on Javtokas, they see him as a rotation player and not a starter. If he ends up being Malik Rose-ish, the Spurs will have done well; but a Malik Rose-ish player doesn't start regularly for a team with le aspirations.

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    Do You Think Ben Wallace Will Be A Kevin Willis Type Player As Long As Longevity Goes? Another Words, Will Be Effective Up To The Age Of 38 Or So?

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    No, I think he will burn out rather quickly considering how much he has had to play over the last couple of years. Plus KWill was 7-1 and ripped. Ben is ripped too but you have to wonder if him being 6-9 and playing center will wear his body down even faster

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    And we should trade Williams to the Knicks, and they could sign and trade us Ariza, he could be are next Bruce

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    williams for frye

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    And we should trade Williams to the Knicks, and they could sign and trade us Ariza, he could be are next Bruce
    Are the Knicks going to reacquire Ariza from the Magic? They traded Ariza to Orlando in the Steve Francis deal.

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    I forgot about that, I guess he would just have to be a free agent signing then. Williams for David Lee then

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    I forgot about that, I guess he would just have to be a free agent signing then. Williams for David Lee then
    I think you're 100% wrong if you think: (1) the Knicks are looking for immediate cap relief; or (2) a contract like Williams' would have any real impact on any desire to seek cap relief by that organization.

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    The Knicks Are That Dumb.

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    They would probably trade us Frye for P.J., they dont know what they are doing. And Williams contract certainly wouldnt hurt, its up after this year right?

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    Anybody know the website that shows the players contracts and when they end and what not?

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    Anybody know the website that shows the players contracts and when they end and what not?
    There's more than one, but here's one:

    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

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    We could package Williams, Bonner, and Oberto for D. Howard

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    We could package Williams, Bonner, and Oberto for D. Howard
    We might need to throw in Beno before Orlando does that deal.

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    We could package Williams, Bonner, and Oberto for D. Howard
    I think we'd have to throw in the riverwalk if we wanted to get D. Howard.

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    I think we'd have to throw in the riverwalk if we wanted to get D. Howard.
    dont have to, we can wait till his a FA in 08/09, spurs td/gino/tp contracts expire that season also we be 25-40mill under cap

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    The Spurs need to address an offensive inside player as they have no in the paint offense when Duncan goes to the bench. Javtokas does not address this need. Scola does but for some reason is not on the Spurs radar.

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    The Spurs need to address an offensive inside player as they have no in the paint offense when Duncan goes to the bench. Javtokas does not address this need. Scola does but for some reason is not on the Spurs radar.
    To be fair, it's been years since the Spurs had any in-the-paint offense other than Duncan. You might say Malik Rose, and Robinson got some post-ups. So at least since 2003.

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    Strangeweather, I wasn't the one who requested this info, but thanks for posting your reply. It is absolutely scary how many unproductive players are getting so many millions per year.

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    Thanks for the link. I wanted to see how much Sam Dalembert was making to see if the Spurs could swing a deal for him but that fool is making too much. What the were the Sixers smoking when they signed him to that deal.

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