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Bowdlerizing all references to slavery, Reconstruction, race massacres, civil rights and racism in the curriculum is itself a sort of social conformity and indoctrination, tbh. Whereas the reverse prepares young people to live in America, warts and all.
Do you consider blacks your equals?
Yes or no.
funny. this is how you treat all the articles you link us too
school choice bad now
Written by a socialist.
It's a bit dishonest to say "we have a great school system" but then not use public schools for your own kids. If you want to say private schools are part of the school system, that's fine, but maybe when public schools are under fire don't defend them by lumping them in with schools you freely chose over them.
thats not dishonest, though. having a good public school system and using private school are not mutually exclusive. and of course private schools are part of the school system. they still have to meet state standards to be accredited as far as im aware
It doesn't matter how much you posted back then as far as the point I made, other than proving what I said was correct. We're also not talking moving center to left or center to right. We're talking one edge to the other, which illustrates exactly what I mean.
And if you opt to tweet and agree with admitted Nazis, Nazi apologists, etc, the logical conclusion is you subscribe to that, or you're terribly dumb and ignorant. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and going with the former and not the later. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc.
I'll let readers, via my post history, decide what my ability to asses others looks like.
No, they are definitely outliers, and in most cases outright falsehoods to bait for reactions. The fact that you keep falling for them doesn't mean that's the norm or anywhere near it.
Again, what you want is immaterial. You choose to live in a society, you deal with the consequences of that choice. If you don't want to abide by it's rules, abandon society. see? freedom!
False according to the actual parents that do not send their kids to public school. Unlike you, that made the claim out of thin air, I supported the claim as well.
lol no, this isn't a free for all and demonstrably so. This is like arguing that you should have the freedom to abuse your children, completely stupid argument and false to boot.
Again, you choose to be part of a society that protects children and your rights as a parent are not infinite.
In addition, nothing precludes the parent from augmenting the education their children get in a public school at home. freedom!
Nice dodge attempt. We're discussing the society you currently live in and it's rules.
You can all you want about the rules you don't like, but you have to go out there and live in it and bend over to it's rules every day.
You're consciously making that choice, your choice every day you live in this society.
How you feel about the rules is immaterial, because whining about them never changed them. So it's effectively a waste of time.
This isn't seeking an opinion, but the credentials to make that claim. You can also think you're above 80-90% of rocket scientists despite only playing with firecrackers. It's meaningless, and very likely wrong.
So what are your credentials to make that claim? Back it up.
This is another attempt to switch the subject via whataboutism.
If you don't want to address homeschooling's lack of oversight and regulation and the impact that has on children, and the cost it ultimately bears on society as a whole, just say so.
I mean, you've already been cherry picking what to answer to, so might as well skip this one as well.
You're welcome. How about answering the rest of that paragraph? Cherry-picking is not a good look, tbh.
Abortion is a time-limited choice. There are simply two competing interests at play there, and that's what makes it a complicated matter.
One of them is the actual state interest in the health of the mother and eventual unborn, which after a certain amount of time preempts the host's right to make their own health decisions.
But, yeah, I suspect it's very difficult to the freedum advocates to explain that one out.
Cherry picking quotes from 1863 out of context doesn't answer the question you ignored...
But that's exactly what homeschooling is. It's removing the children from the society around them, different opinions and experiences, with the primary goal to indoctrinate them into some archaic values that largely no longer hold in our society.
It's basically a model based on church schools, but actually worse. The child and society are ultimately who pay the price for that.
I mean, you can make this same argument defending slavery. It's nonsense. And it's not morals, it's the law. We have anti-discrimination laws in the books and employers are held to account for them. That's why they avoid liabilities.
But, do tell what's your solution to this considering you're in the minority? Doing away with discrimination laws won't put the cat back in the bag. We've largely moved on as a society well past discrimination, and socially shunning racists, xenophobes, etc is largely the norm.
So what's your solution to this? Ruining a children's life that will have to live in that society clearly is not a solution.
You disagree with my statement then go on to talk about something I didn't even sayYou moved the goalpost again.
I said it's dishonest to use private school results to defend or grade public schools.
You don't own the children of others. The left is terrified like a cult of different world views. The people chasing speakers off college campuses now want to control the education of kids under the facade that they care about "different opinions and experiences".
"with the primary goal to indoctrinate them into some archaic values that largely no longer hold in our society."
Good thing we have authoritarians to declare what values we must impose on our children.
I don't understand the exception you made about being time limited. It's only time limited for the parent. It's forever for the fetus. Also, teaching your kids is time limited.
You cannot force your 21 year old to go to school, so that also pre-empts the hosts right to make "their own" teaching decisions.
Did you intentionally misspell "freedum" to insinuate freedom is different if you vote red instead of blue?
It's ok to remove your own kids from the society around them, is it not?
Are you saying that children should not be raised by their own parents in fear they might learn some of their archaic values? Is this only true for children of conservative parents?
How did it work while schools were closed? Did the US regress to the stone age?
There's a weird inconsistency here. On one hand separating kids from their parents at the border due to safety and health reasons is bad. On the other separate kids from the parents in the US due to educational reasons is good.
"But, do tell what's your solution to this considering you're in the minority?"
Flexible freedom based systems. Systems far superior than the rigid system you want because you want to indoctrinate the children of others.
"So what's your solution to this? Ruining a children's life that will have to live in that society clearly is not a solution."
That's your opinion. People are ruining their children by letting them consume a constant flow of entertainment. It's not the role of authoritarians like you to impose on the children of others.
Because the mother's right is the one being infringed upon and time-limited in that case. The fetus effectively has no rights until born (at least that's what the SCOTUS said).
The arguments States make against abortion is that they have an interest in the health of the mother and eventual unborn that trumps the individual right of the mother.
As most of us know, one right is not more important than another. Thus, in the case of abortion a solomonic compromise was reached.
There's nothing comparable in the education realm. The child has rights of his own (so does the parent), etc. Custody of the children can be removed at any time from the State for given violations of the law. Completely different scenario.
I intentionally misspelled freedom to differentiate those that understand the difference between actual freedom within the framework of our laws and society vs the intellectually dishonest that invoke freedom as a crutch to justify their hate, racism, xenophobia.
There's no inconsistency. As I pointed out, I didn't advocate for no homeschooling, but no homeschooling in it's current form.
There's simply no oversight to actually tell whether parents are qualified to teach children and provide them with a solid education.
I don't mind parents teaching them useless values (you could even argue that happens in public school as well), eventually the child will figure out that was worthless.
What can't happen is those children not getting the rest of the education they need to be productive members of society.
As I already pointed out, when that child becomes an adult and is unemployable, it's society as a whole that bears that burden.
While schools were closed the vast majority of them moved online, and classes continued remotely. It lacked the social interaction factor, which everyone agrees is far from ideal, but we actually had a health emergency. It's definitely not the norm.
We have literal decades if not centuries building an improving educational systems, updating them year after year as society moves forward. The curriculum nowadays has little resemblance to what was taught in the 1950's, for example.
Also, the border/education analogy is simply nowhere near the same ballpark. Separation at the border means they're still searching for the parents and kids to reunite them. Kids going to public school spend half a day outside the house, see their parent daily, sleep in the same house, spend weekends together. Like, not even close.
This is a term you made up. Describe it. Also does not address how you being in the minority can compel such system.
No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact that ruining a child's life is never a solution, no matter the problem. Whataboustism is also not an answer either. Gather your thoughts, and try again.
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