Just at the top of my head, whoever ends up trading for Simmons will need lots of shooters, that could be a potential destination for Forbes whoever gets Simmons lol
How dumb are you? If they are signed to another team they are not free agents. There is no moratorium on when we can trade Thad because he was not a free agent signing. We acquired him from Chicago in the DDR trade. He was still under contract when we traded for him.
Forbes has to green light any deal, since he’s on a one year contract.
I think they are referring to potential return players. Right now, only 65% of players are eligible to be traded. In like 2 days, that becomes 84%, and the Spurs have more options/ teams to move him.
Was so favored that they gave him the boot 2 summers ago. You guys need some new material.
And brought him back to a young, rebuilding team, already full of guards.
Sure guy, it’s all in our imagination
Pop isn't overplaying Forbes. He has 12 games with over 15 minutes, but a number of those Forbes played the 4th quarter of games the Spurs were being blown out. I think there will be a market for a career 41.5% 3pt shooter that is shooting better than his career average on a cheap contract with championship experience. , that may have been the plan all along to send him to a contender at the trade deadline. If so, an incredibly shrewd move by Wright. Time will tell.
Thad's played well enough in his time on the court to show that he could still help another team. No reason to give him away or release him at this point, as he could still net something in return. I still don't think Pop utilizes him as well as he could, but Young hasn't exactly torn it up when he's out there to earn more minutes, either. I've seen him hit perhaps one shot from outside of 6 feet.
These things happen.
Right, of course.
Why did we even go for him and Collins to waste money on roster spots for them?
He's still not worth more than a matching contract and some second rounders. The best hope the FO has at getting anything of worth is as a third team facilitator.
Yep, it does look like our authoritarian head coach is just flexing his muscles.
Young is not a rookie, or a scrub. He is a proven good player with only a couple of years left in his Prime. I know I would be pissed if I was in his situation, and Pop doing this is only making matters worse.
So much for treating players right, I guess that only applies if you are a scrub. I hope Pop's BS doesn't mess this up anymore then what it is because how in the world would any player want to come here going forward after stunts like this.
Forbes trade rumors are exactly the type of tease this fanbase needs next. First, it was the Wiseman tease. Next, it was the John Collins tease. After that, it was all the 2021 draft trade up speculation tease. Finally, all the tease from trading away Murray or White during the summer. Let’s add one more to the list to let the fan base get their hopes up and get disappointed once again.
Yea, forbes being a trade asset or some mystery team eyeing him is complete bs
Patty wants his sidekick with him in Brooklyn.Yea, forbes being a trade asset or some mystery team eyeing him is complete bs
Or you could just take it at face value for what it is: speculation.
This team doesn't make mid-season trades. If you don't expect much, you won't be disappointed.
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The search for villains and saviors will continue…
You think that the aging role player FAs and their player representatives (that we rely on heavily) haven't noticed how Pop did Demarre Carroll, Quincy Pondexter, Dante Cunningham, etc (Luka, Landale) not to mention how he has primarily played like a 9 or 10 man rotation despite clearly rebuilding.
The Bruce Bowen, LaMarcus Aldridge, Danny Green, Avery Johnson, Robert Horry, Michael Finley, Malik Roses, and uninjured Rudy Gays are NOT banging down our doors to come here. No, we now get Carroll, Pondexter, and Cunningham and them pop plays them 35 games. And they were our best signings over the past three years, yet still couldn't buy more than 35 games, lol. Why even sign them?
I actually pity the fact you're being this dense about this. A player's agents job is to get them a good paycheck and into a position to get another paycheck after that. And that doesn't happen when the team you have your client sign with rides the bench. And if they weren't good enough to sign,then don't ing sign them, and play your gleague talent or that from other teams and go get you some top 3 draft picks. this isn't hard.
Also, why the do you keep suggesting Thad couldn't be traded until Dec 15th? I think at least 2 others in this thread have told you that's not correct. They had a window before he was signed to continue moving him. In fact, supposedly, at least three teams had offered or were considering offering a pick for him, up to a first (see PHX rumor mill especially).
At the end of the day you're simply defending incompetence and mediocrity from PATFO.
And yes, now Thad's value is less than the day we acquired him. Only a blind man doesn't see that. And it won't get better as he rides the pine. Well be lucky to get a mid-second for him after the 15th at this point. This isn't rocket science.
Even if the December 15 thing doesn't apply to Thad, it applies to enough other players around the league that I would expect an uptick in trade talk between teams starting on the 15th.
The main abuse Pop heaped on those older vets was to pay them when nobody else would. Lol. Yeah, that’ll scare away free agents, if you give them too much money.
The Bruce Bowen, LaMarcus Aldridge, Danny Green, Avery Johnson, Robert Horry, Michael Finley, Malik Roses, and uninjured Rudy Gays are NOT banging down our doors to come here. …
Especially not the retired ones. Are you a stable person?
No, we now get Carroll, Pondexter, and Cunningham and them pop plays them 35 games. …
Those guys aren’t on the team “now.”
What’s your actual complaint? That the Spurs didn’t get Collins from the Hawks? Or something like that?
The best free agents are in demand, and hard to get. This is news?
I actually pity the fact you're being this dense about this. …
Trying to communicate with somebody who’s dense can be a problem, no doubt about it.
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A player's agents job is to get them a good paycheck and into a position to get another paycheck after that. And that doesn't happen when the team you have your client sign with rides the bench. And if they weren't good enough to sign,then don't ing sign them, …
Yes, the Spurs have signed players they shouldn’t have, from time to time. This becomes clear in hindsight, tho. You have a crystal ball to share?
Also, why the do you keep suggesting Thad couldn't be traded until Dec 15th? …
Why the are you not able to make an honest effort to read what I actually write? Are you only semiliterate? Are you fundamentally dishonest?
The thing is, if Thad is to be traded, he has to be traded to some other team, and the Spurs have to get a player, or some other tradable thing in return. That is how it works.
Why am I having to tell you this? You should know this.
There will be more trade possibilities after Dec 15. An obstinate insistence on trading Thad now could make you miss out on a better trade later.
Do you follow?
I’ve no idea what the Spurs will end up doing, and neither do you. But if they do trade him, I’d hope it will be when they have the greatest number of possibilities to consider.
Don’t you think that’s wise?
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(see PHX rumor mill especially).
Oh please. Now you are just pulling my leg.
At the end of the day you're simply defending incompetence and mediocrity from PATFO.
At the end of the day you’re as dumb as you were in the morning.
And yes, now Thad's value is less than the day we acquired him. …
No, it isn’t.
Counting the days Thad gets traded and give the opportunity to Landale. On that same thought, any market for Ewwbanks?Seriously, with all the big names rumored out there, Simmons, Sabonis, Turner, Grant, PATFO will announce someone unheard of, MVP from whatever league, who ST would about for a week
Actually with the guys u named being available, probably Young does not get a look. Unless Indiana is looking to lose salary then we might be able to trade colins and young for Turner or Sabonis.Counting the days Thad gets traded and give the opportunity to Landale. On that same thought, any market for Ewwbanks?
Hey Turner would be a great upgrade on our defense. But who’s coming off the bench? I bet Poeltl wouldn’t like that.
I’d throw in Keldon’s rookie contract to get Sabonis tbh
The guys available list would be too pricey for most contenders, who just want stretch run help for their benches. Sabonis alone, as a 25 YO multi select All star, will commend multiple firsts or high trajectory young players on rookie deals. Most contenders also don’t want to break up their rotation to send back contracts for a Sabonis or a Turner.
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