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    He definitely is the best looking rookie since DJ but DJ possessed clear intangibles that simply can't be taught… from the jump. He was an absolute ball hawk an elite rebounder with a chip on his shoulder from the get go.

    Primo has shown more offensive talent at a younger age but he is certainly over valued by most of Spurstalk. I realize most here don’t watch other games and only some even actually watch Spurs games but so far Primo hasn’t shown anything to be regarded as the future super star many on this board assume.
    I can’t speak for other people. All I can tell you is about me. I’m a die hard Spurs fan who has watched nearly every Spurs game since I don’t know how long now. Add to that, I make it a point to catch every G League game for more than three years at this point. Nowadays, I spend a lot of time watching & reading about draft prospects who don’t even become Spurs players.

    I was one of the few who believed in Kawhi’s future s om before anybody did, while others were saying he wasn’t athletic enough. I was sane enough to think Kyle wasn’t going to be anything more than a role player. Murray came along, and obviously I made my username with his name, but I was never THAT high on becoming special, but at the same time I kept some hope that he could turn out into something good. Lonnie came, and yeah, he flashed some elite athleticism but that has never “Wow”-ed me as a basketball fan, especially because I grew up as a Spurs fan and if you follow the Spurs, it isn’t about the high flying dunks that impress you— it’s the basketball fundamentals.

    Then Keldon and Luka came— Keldon excited me mostly due to his personality and you want someone like that to succeed. Luka excited me because a player of his height shouldn’t be able to do some of the stuff he does, but happens and he turned out to be garbage likely due to his at ude. Speaking of at ude, you get Kawhi and then you get Luka… it’s not a wonder why people would be reluctant to make sure we draft someone with a little bit of good character. Next, we get Vassell, and I was extremely low on the guy pre-draft, all because he has piss poor shot selection when it comes to inside the three point line and it even shows now. I don’t believe the guy will become Kawhi like what others badly want him to be.

    And then we get to Primo… who I do believe has a greater chance at something special than all of the guys who came before him. My point is this… you can see all my thoughts on the guys we’ve had and see that I don’t throw around the word “star” that easily, like some of the folks here. I’m very careful to use that word and I know exactly what it’s like to close the book on players and turn out dead wrong later. I just think it’s a bad habit for most people to make very premature statements on players when they have no idea how they will turn out. It’s usually rooted in emotion— mostly disappointment.
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    Holy . IMO, the prospects currently projected ahead of him are nowhere near as impressive. Ivey should be the #1 pick.

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    there is a Nikola Jovic. think he will be as good as Nikola Jokic?

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    Not even close but I think he is a good player just not where we will be picking

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    Chet's low post defense actually kinda reminds me of Timmy, his patience and uses his length very well

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    Chet's low post defense actually kinda reminds me of Timmy, his patience and uses his length very well
    Tank for Chet!

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    Holy . IMO, the prospects currently projected ahead of him are nowhere near as impressive. Ivey should be the #1 pick.
    Draft a big please!

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    Draft a big please!
    If we get the 4th pick, with Smith, Chet, & Banchero going the first 3, there is no way you can skip over Ivey just to draft a big. Would be one of the biggest mistakes in Spurs history.

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    This board would melt down if we drafted another 6’4” guard.

    That being said, I don’t have a problem if he’s BPA when we’re on the clock.

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    I'd love another 6'4" guard if it was Ivey... and we traded White for a fringe all-star PF

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    This board would melt down if we drafted another 6’4” guard.

    That being said, I don’t have a problem if he’s BPA when we’re on the clock.
    I think a lot depends on how different the players are. If your best available big is a 75 but your best available player is 95. yes you draft best available. If Your best big is 88 and your best available is 89. I would go with the best big.

    Yes I know players dont have numbers and things can change over the years but the numbers are designed to make it make a little bit of sense in difference.

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    This board would melt down if we drafted another 6’4” guard.

    That being said, I don’t have a problem if he’s BPA when we’re on the clock.
    That kid looks like the 2nd coming of Ja Morant with how he gets to the basket. We take the BPA

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    Chet and Ivey are pipe dreams without some incredible lottery luck, which is unlikely. Spurs will be selecting somewhere between 7-12.

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    Chet's low post defense actually kinda reminds me of Timmy, his patience and uses his length very well
    The play where he dribbles up the court, tries a spin move and falls down is exactly my fear with this dude

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    Chet's low post defense actually kinda reminds me of Timmy, his patience and uses his length very well

    His perimeter D is also pretty good for his size. He's a game changer defensively imo

    Chet and Ivey are pipe dreams without some incredible lottery luck, which is unlikely. Spurs will be selecting somewhere between 7-12.

    Not agree, Actually spurs are pick 7 and they have 32% of chance of being top 4. If we are the theorical pick 7 or 8 i think we have our chance to go top 4.



    Holy . IMO, the prospects currently projected ahead of him are nowhere near as impressive. Ivey should be the #1 pick.
    he is a top 4 with Banchero, Holmgren and Smith for me so i agree he could be the 1st pick.

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    That kid looks like the 2nd coming of Ja Morant with how he gets to the basket. We take the BPA
    Ivey reminds me a bit more of De'Aaron Fox, but whose quibbling, both are very good players.

    If the three bigs (Jabari Smith, Holmgren, Banchero) are gone, and Ivey's the BPA, take him.

    But if any of those bigs are available (1) Ivey won't be the BPA and (2) those bigs fill a much "bigger" need.

    It's kind of feast or famine for bigs after those three -- the Spurs will likely have a draft pick too high to take a different big in the top 7. There's a huge drop off in quality bigs after those top three. Too much of a reach.

    So getting a top three pick is essential. But even if the Spurs had the worst record in the league, they'd only have a 40% chance of a top three pick. Catch 22.

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    Draft a big please!
    Some boards have Ivey going to Detroit with the second pick

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    Holy . IMO, the prospects currently projected ahead of him are nowhere near as impressive. Ivey should be the #1 pick.
    I know we need a PF, but I'd love to get Ivy and pair him with DJ in the back court. Add a John Collins via trade and Murra/Ivey/Keldon/J. Collins/Poeltl would be a playoff team with plenty of upside. I'd rather have him than Banchero/Kegan Murray

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    How is Ivey's ability to play off-ball? Admittedly I've only seen highlights at this stage but they all primarily seem to show him attacking off the dribble. If you are going to play with DJ, believe Coaching staff needs to be confident in having combo. guard capabilities in half-court sets.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, hypothetically, it came down between Ivey and Mathurin at the Spurs selection, that the would choose Mathurin.
    Past BWB player, shown skills outside of Arizona system (was running some point for Canada in U19 Olympics), sought after combination of skill, athletic talent and position adaptability...


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    How is Ivey's ability to play off-ball? Admittedly I've only seen highlights at this stage but they all primarily seem to show him attacking off the dribble. If you are going to play with DJ, believe Coaching staff needs to be confident in having combo. guard capabilities in half-court sets.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, hypothetically, it came down between Ivey and Mathurin at the Spurs selection, that the would choose Mathurin.
    Past BWB player, shown skills outside of Arizona system (was running some point for Canada in U19 Olympics), sought after combination of skill, athletic talent and position adaptability...

    I haven't seen very much talk about Mathurin in here tbh, but I am high on him. Great potential. High floor imo

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    That kid looks like the 2nd coming of Ja Morant with how he gets to the basket. We take the BPA
    He’s not a PG tho. Ja can both score at a stellar level, and run a team.

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    Chet and Ivey are pipe dreams without some incredible lottery luck, which is unlikely. Spurs will be selecting somewhere between 7-12.
    Pick 7 has jumped into the top 4 each of the three years of the new odds. Over half of the top 4 picks in the 3 drafts were bumped out. It no longer takes incredible luck to jump into the top picks, especially since there now are 4 drawn slots, not 3

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    He’s not a PG tho. Ja can both score at a stellar level, and run a team.
    He's more D rose than Ja i agree, he's not a pure passer like Ja. Like D rose he is explosive, energetic...

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    If he were the next Ja, he’d go #1 overall.

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    How is Ivey's ability to play off-ball? Admittedly I've only seen highlights at this stage but they all primarily seem to show him attacking off the dribble. If you are going to play with DJ, believe Coaching staff needs to be confident in having combo. guard capabilities in half-court sets.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, hypothetically, it came down between Ivey and Mathurin at the Spurs selection, that the would choose Mathurin.
    Past BWB player, shown skills outside of Arizona system (was running some point for Canada in U19 Olympics), sought after combination of skill, athletic talent and position adaptability...


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