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    They’ve been needing something like that since Sexton went down. That’s a lot for Levert.
    I don't think it's too bad. Late first plus early second plus Utah's 2027 second for Levert and a late second seems alright for a Cavs team in win now mode.

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    Not sure Carlisle signed up for this...
    If Indy is fair, they’ll release him like ATL did for Bud when they went into their rebuild.

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    Especially when Rubio’s expiring gave Cleveland cap space to play with this summer that possibly goes right to Levert as he is extendable.

    I guess this gives an idea of White is worth. 2 FRPs might be possible.
    Maybe if he were a Warrior or Raptor. As a Spur, he's inherently significantly less valuable than he'd be virtually elsewhere else.

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    The Cavs may make some noise in the playoffs tbh I like their roster a lot

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    Especially when Rubio’s expiring gave Cleveland cap space to play with this summer that possibly goes right to Levert as he is extendable.

    I guess this gives an idea of White is worth. 2 FRPs might be possible.
    Cleveland is in the same boat we're in where they're not going to land in free agency. I'll take the bird in the hand there, plus they have him for a playoff run this year while capspace ain't winning any games for them this year.

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    The Cavs may make some noise in the playoffs tbh I like their roster a lot
    Yeah, they feel like last years Hawks to me. If they get the right side of the bracket, like them more than Chicago for example.

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    Financial ramifications for 2022/23:

    Cleveland: $125.5M in total salary (tax is $147M)

    * C. Sexton is a RFA

    Indiana: $94.6M in salary ($26M below the cap)

    The Pacers join Detroit, Orlando and San Antonio as teams with significant room in the offseason.

    Bobby Marks

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    Thad, Lonnie and the Chicago 1st for Sabonis would work too. I just feel like he‘d be a weird fit

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    Love this move for Cleveland. The idea of going forward with two 6'1" guards in Garland & Sexton was sketchy anyway, and I think Sexton will demand much more money than the 6'6" LeVert in the future. I always root for LeVert anyway, as one of the already luckiest players in NBA history, whose cancer was discovered by a routine physical after being traded, and who possibly might've died if he hadn't been traded. I can't think of any other trade in the history of sports that could possibly sting less.

    At this point, the Cavs could be a couple of opponent covid cases in the playoffs away from shocking the world with an NBA le.
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    Thad, Lonnie and the Chicago 1st for Sabonis would work too. I just feel like he‘d be a weird fit
    I don’t think that works for Indy. Salary ballast, a busted development project, and one FRP isn’t close to what they want.

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    Thad, Lonnie and the Chicago 1st for Sabonis would work too. I just feel like he‘d be a weird fit
    Can't imagine Indy couldn't do better than that, but god damn I'd love that.

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    Cleveland is in the same boat we're in where they're not going to land in free agency. I'll take the bird in the hand there, plus they have him for a playoff run this year while capspace ain't winning any games for them this year.
    Both C level cities but Mobley, Garland and Allan is considerably more talent than we currently posses. I’m not arguing against or for the trade, seems like a fair transaction for two teams with different trajectories.

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    Thad, Lonnie and the Chicago 1st for Sabonis would work too. I just feel like he‘d be a weird fit
    They just a better haul for LeVert?

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    Thad, Lonnie and the Chicago 1st for Sabonis would work too. I just feel like he‘d be a weird fit
    Is this serious? They apparently want the equivalent of the Vucevic package, which was Carter Jr., 1st (became 8th pick which became Wagner) and a '23 top 4 protected 1st.

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    Cleveland is in the same boat we're in where they're not going to land in free agency. I'll take the bird in the hand there, plus they have him for a playoff run this year while capspace ain't winning any games for them this year.
    I am not impressed with what is going to be available in free agency a team that is looking to win a ring I don’t think will find much in free agency hence the need to do a trade now if you have the space and picks to do it.

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    If Indy is fair, they’ll release him like ATL did for Bud when they went into their rebuild.
    I could see him staying on with indy. no reason for him to give up money so Unless Indy needs to roster spot might as well keep him. I believe his contract is over at the end of this year and he out for the year. They may release him to be nice but he probably wont join another team till summer anyway.

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    I could see him staying on with indy. no reason for him to give up money so Unless Indy needs to roster spot might as well keep him. I believe his contract is over at the end of this year and he out for the year. They may release him to be nice but he probably wont join another team till summer anyway.
    I think he's talking about Carlisle..

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    I am not impressed with what is going to be available in free agency a team that is looking to win a ring I don’t think will find much in free agency hence the need to do a trade now if you have the space and picks to do it.
    Actually, with such limited cap space this summer it makes the cap space available more valuable. I wouldn't pass on a trade now just to save space if it was someone we really coveted but, shedding more salary and increasing our space opens up some options this summer that are probably better than last.

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    this is the perfect moment for the spurs to do something risky. high risk / high reward.

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    Actually, with such limited cap space this summer it makes the cap space available more valuable. I wouldn't pass on a trade now just to save space if it was someone we really coveted but, shedding more salary and increasing our space opens up some options this summer that are probably better than last.
    We don’t need to open more space. We have 35mm or so if we let Walker go. In my opinion we should start allocating that if and when opportunities arise. There are not max players in this free agency we would pursue or who wouldn't consider us. Ayton and Bridges as RFA’s are probably the prizes of free agency for the teams with material cap space and are going ti be matched.

    Start renting your cap space now if the deal makes sense. Teams are looking to clear space to avoid the luxury tax, to get better at the margin for a playoff run and to have money to spend July 1st when the clock strikes twelve. The final point there means deals are going down at the deadline that would otherwise go down in the summer.

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    We don’t need to open more space. We have 35mm or so if we let Walker go. In my opinion we should start allocating that if and when opportunities arise. There are not max players in this free agency we would pursue or who wouldn't consider us. Ayton and Bridges as RFA’s are probably the prizes of free agency for the teams with material cap space and are going ti be matched.

    Start renting your cap space now if the deal makes sense. Teams are looking to clear space to avoid the luxury tax, to get better at the margin for a playoff run and to have money to spend July 1st when the clock strikes twelve. The final point there means deals are going down at the deadline that would otherwise go down in the summer.
    It's about renting cap space this summer. There will be max or near max players that want to go somewhere besides SA this summer and we have the space to help teams make that happen and since there are only a few teams the price for that space could be considerable. As for us creating more space, I'm thinking along the lines of moving McDermott for space and a small asset if it's there...not jettisoning young players for the sake of space.

    Re-reading your reply I think we're kinda in agreement on most of this....basically look for a deal at the deadline if it's there and if not, rent space this summer.... obviously there's nuance to it but thats the basic idea..
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    2021 Examples of RFA’s who switched teams:

    Lonzo Ball
    Markkanen
    Devonte Graham
    Hinton

    It is a short list from a group of over 30+ RFA’s.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Spurs go after Kyle Anderson or Dorian Finney Smith

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    I think he's talking about Carlisle..
    I get the impression he dislikes lots of his roster (outside a few guys like Malcom), and part of the deal for him was that he would get say in its turnover. Who knows, he’s probably over the moon to get rid of LaVert

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    I know I’m gonna catch a lot of flak for this but I kinda wish the spurs would gamble on Marvin Bagley just to see if there’s anything there. I doubt the spurs take a chance with his dad being a problem and stuff

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    I thought the team that acquires Smith can't resign him this summer, or are hamstrung badly. Is that still right? The Suns really ed themselves by declining him.
    It could also be repackaged intel from earlier, and Jalen’s agent trying to find up interest for his client this summer. Or maybe the spurs don’t care about the impact of PHX’s not picking up his deal bc they think he’s a scrub and only see him as salary ballast anyway.

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