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    I really don’t know what Kings are doing. But they’re bringing veteran players, and they just lost Haliburton. White could make sense.
    Barnes is a mild upgrade from Keldon, probably only because he's 7 years older, and for a lot more money. I don't see any move that makes much sense for White unless you can get some nice picks.

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    White? For what?
    For Bagley. Kings want to unload the guy.

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    For Bagley. Kings want to unload the guy.
    Not sure if srs

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    What would you trade for Bagley? Would you want him?

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    What would you trade for Bagley? Would you want him?
    Bagley's trade value is more like Young, not White.

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    For Bagley. Kings want to unload the guy.
    How many firsts are they giving us to go with Bagley?

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    What would you trade for Bagley? Would you want him?
    It took u 3 attempts to still get game thread wrong. Don't chime in just spectate
    Last edited by ismael-robert; 02-08-2022 at 10:24 PM.

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    Bagley is a true reclamation project. He has lost all his confidence. Just watch him play and his body language. If he is willing to put in the work and not want a high paying extension, then he may be worth a flyer. If…

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    It took him 3 attempts to still get game thread wrong. Don't chime in just spectate

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    It took him 3 attempts to still get game thread wrong. Don't chime in just spectate
    WTF are you talking about?

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    seems like there is a 2nd rounder attached to both packages from the Suns and TWolves. Spurs would probably want a first, but I think they take one of the deals to at least get something out of it. I'd rather take the Suns deal and try to flip Saric into another asset next season
    I’d rather not have Saric’s salary heading into the offseason. Cap space is way more valuable than Saric at $9mm.

    If they want us to take Saric, then a first gas has to be attached.

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    Bagley is a true reclamation project. He has lost all his confidence. Just watch him play and his body language. If he is willing to put in the work and not want a high paying extension, then he may be worth a flyer. If…
    His QO is like $15 million next year

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    For Bagley. Kings want to unload the guy.
    I would trade Thad and the 2nd we got from Denver for Bagley. What do we have to lose except a player that doesn't play and doesn't want to be here. They are both on expiring contracts. Maybe, just maybe we see something in Bagley, who knows but its better than letting a fairly expensive player simply rot on the bench.

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    I really don’t know what Kings are doing. But they’re bringing veteran players, and they just lost Haliburton. White could make sense.
    I agree. I would be willing to do White for Bagley because I think between Primo and Devin we could have whites production covered, but I think the spurs front office have proven themselves to be very conservative in these type of trades and also very bad at understanding player value. They seem to want a lot for Poeltl, but the types of teams that are looking to trade for Poeltl are good teams or teams making a run for the playoffs, which means they will need Poeltl to defend well against good bigs on playoff caliber teams. Poeltl is exceptionally bad at this. He gets destroyed by Jokic, Towns, Gobert, he gets destroyed by any big with a pulse that tries to score one on one. Every team knows this, so why would they give up a high lottery pick or great young player for a guy they are going to need to guard Joel Embiid in the 1st round, who absolutely can't guard Joel Embiid? So Poeltl will stay on this team, and he will be here next year, and then after that he will be a free agent and all the teams who the spurs could have gotten something for him will just offer him more money and he will leave for nothing. We have been bad this year with him and traded him for nothing. We will be bad next year and trade him for nothing. Same thing with Derrick. He is a player who could be the beginnings of trade discussions to get us the type of power forward or center we need, but the spurs would never do a deal like that because they are perfectly fine having Derrick be a guard here and just having a log jam at that position to the point that primo, lonnie, and vassell are pretty much fighting over 15 minutes ever game. We should be trying to make a move on a player like Bagley because we are a bad team and the only way bad teams take a leap is drafting a transcendent start like Morant or taking a swing at some young players and having them exceed expectations, but the spurs don't know how to operate as a bad team so they are going to do neither and just be a bad team for longer than they should. We'll probably just draft Chet and then wait 2 years to find out if he is even a good basketball player.

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    The Kings have been trying to practically give Bagley away for free since last season... the fact that no one wants him should tell you something. The idea of trading White for him is crazy when he could be had for Thaddeus Young probably

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    People saying they would trade white for Bagley in any capacity should no longer be allowed to post.

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    The Kings have been trying to practically give Bagley away for free since last season... the fact that no one wants him should tell you something. The idea of trading White for him is crazy when he could be had for Thaddeus Young probably
    I think they should offer Thad and go from there. Kings is unloading salary, and this guys has been wanting out. He’s only 22 and was the 2nd overall pick. I think Spurs should make him prove himself then go from there. Kings are talking Trailblazers but got “held off”.

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    If you have to salary dump him with a future pick then that inherently means there was no market for him, since at that point you are paying someone in asset just to take him.
    No, I'm saying I would rather salary dump him than give up haliburton. I think there are legit buyers for him. I just think Sacramento doubled down on their initial investment and instead of going with haliburton.

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    Trading white for the modern day Sam Bowie as far as draft busts go?

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    I think they should offer Thad and go from there. Kings is unloading salary, and this guys has been wanting out. He’s only 22 and was the 2nd overall pick. I think Spurs should make him prove himself then go from there. Kings are talking Trailblazers but got “held off”.
    Can people stop doing this? Once someone is drafted there is no value in saying when they were picked. If the draft was redone today, where is he picked? Not in the top 20. So it doesn't matter at all that he was a a 2nr pick.

    Dude is not good at all. It makes zero sense for anyone to give up any real assets for him at this point. There's a reason sac can't give the guy away

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    Bagley's advanced numbers are truly awful. He has no interest around the league. Sacto, a bad team, plays him begrudgingly. San Antonio is not a pretty fairy portal whereupon ty players magically become good.

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    Richaun Holmes hasn't played tonight and was declared out 15 minutes before the start of Sacramento's game for "personal" reasons...I'm guessing that means he's going to be traded too.

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    ^ the thing scaring people off of Bagley now is his QO. I’m sure there are teams that would take a chance on him if it were lower. If the spurs really like him wait another year we he’s a UFA.

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    The Sacramento Kings want to move Marvin Bagley ‘bad,’ per steveBHoop

    6’10” 7’1 wingspan, 22 years old. Do we want this guy? I think he has more upside than Poeltl and just needs a change of environment.
    He has no upside. He had a rookie year of 14/7. He replicated that twice, making no progress, and has regressed to 9/7 this year.

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    Can people stop doing this? Once someone is drafted there is no value in saying when they were picked. If the draft was redone today, where is he picked? Not in the top 20. So it doesn't matter at all that he was a a 2nr pick.

    Dude is not good at all. It makes zero sense for anyone to give up any real assets for him at this point. There's a reason sac can't give the guy away
    So you wouldn’t give up Thad and a SRP for this guy? He can shoot outside, block, rebound, drive, finish ally-ops, pass, can play PF/C. Seriously? I think the Spurs should take a flyer and make him prove himself.


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