If the bonus is indeed that small I agree with you. Where's that info.
Thad got benched because he publicly whined. Doesn't look like strategy or some sort
The earlier post is incorrect according to spotrac. Their info looks like this:
2021-22: LTBE: $0, ULTBE: $1,000,000 (>= 64 regular season games + wins/playoffs + 24 MPG, All-Defense, All-Star, Most Improved Player)
ULTBE=Unlikely To Be Earned
It was 1M but required 64 games at 24 min/gm, or better, and the playoffs. I’m not familiar enough with their notation to be sure what “wins/playoffs” means, precisely. Or he could have earned it by being named MIP, All Star, or All Defense.
That was part of his contract which the Spurs inherited. It was the same for all three years.
It was never taken into account for his playing time by the Spurs. That’s a silly notion. Thad did not get playing time for exactly the reason both Thad and Pop publicly stated. The Spurs are rebuilding, and they had to give the minutes to the younger players, to assess the team’s situation. Thad was not part of the Spurs future plans, too old.
If the Spurs had started strong, and raised serious playoff hopes, Thad might have played a lot. Didn’t happen.
If Sportac can be trusted, Thad had a $1-Million playing time bonus where he had to play in at least 65 games and average at least 24 MPG in those games (or basically win superstar awards in other areas). Last year, Young BARELY qualified for that, meaning it was factored into his cap number this season. While him missing the bonus didn't change anything for the Spurs, the incentive does get recalculated as part of a trade. So when he was going to be dealt to Toronto, his play-time bonus was reevaluated and reclassified as unlikely, and his cap number reverted to just his base salary. That meant he went from counting as $14.1 Million on the Spurs' outgoing ledger to $13.1 Million on Toronto's incoming ledger.
To be clear, Thad wasn't getting any of that million in his checks. The checks are for his base salary. Wasn't going to get paid $150k or whatever and now won't. It's just that neither Toronto nor SA will have to cut him a check this year.
To be clearer, this doesn't mean that Ex is wrong about if Young had a specific bonuses for the various markers that total up to $1 Million and Sportac is just not breaking it down. I just haven't seen that specific breakdown anywhere.
That appears to be incorrect. Thad is currently showing for Toronto at $14,190,000 base salary (of which $4.8M remains to be paid.)
Bobby Marks has been cited as saying his games played + playoff bonus for this year was 150k, 1 million total was probably if all of the above happened with each piece additive to his compensation package.
Regardless Thad’s bonus was not a deciding factor in his role with the Spurs.
While I reserve the right to be wrong, I think Young's incentives not being corrected is a more likely explanation.
who cares, all that matters is we also got rid of Drew Eubanks. Killed 2 birds with 1 stone here
Ditto, it was very nicely done, to move Eubanks like that.
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Spurstalk clutching their precious John Collins candles and the Spurs didn’t even want him.
Everyone was on the same page in the front office
I'm sure they knew atlanta's price for collins and it required picks the other way.
The Spurs are seemingly desperate to make Johnson work as the PF. I don't mind them not wanting to play two traditional bigs, but I really hope they're willing to consider a bigger wing for that spot. They realized Derrick wasn't a keeper. That's good. They need to be willing to do the same thing with Keldon.
I feel like KJ is a keeper. But off the bench. You don’t get rid of guys who shoot the ball like him and have the drive he has. He has a lot of flaws physically but his energy, hustle, toughness, and shooting are things we all need.
unless keldon moves to the sf and vasell to sg/sf... then we have a big backcourt lineup...
just need a real fkn big down low...any big would do doesnt matter if he cant shoot the 3...
or Pop has less of a say or care about on his way out. Either way he won’t publicly critique his coworkers. Pop needs to coach whoever BW brings in from here on out. Pop would never have made those trades if he was in charge though.
Normalize all of this with Keldon’s rookie extension at <15mm a year and I agree.
Keldon is playing there out of necessity/lack of team talent at that position. Want to see him in a better role like super sub off bench before moving him, but I do think he is the next guy up with positive value that could fetch something in the trade market.
nah they just need a real PF so Keldon can slide to SF and McDermott goes to the bench. That would fix most issues on this team
I would bet good, hard money the Spurs have never, ever been interested in John Collins. It was purely ST imagination.
Johnson is not playing PF out of necessity. The Spurs have gotten rid of almost all of their forwards and seemingly were looking for a guard in return for White regardless. I agree about the rest of the post, but dude is a four, and if he played with some bulky 6-9 guy next to him, the Spurs would be playing two PFs.
I don’t agree with this at all.
Derrick wasn’t traded because he wasn’t a keeper, he was traded because the package was in the Spurs favour when thinking of the team’s current standings and ceiling moving forward.
Keldon has already improved tremendously as a perimeter shooter, in an off-season with Olympic duties and significant team turnover. Why are we betting against him shedding a few lbs and improving his perimeter Defense?
KJ may always be somewhat of a tweener but that’s no reason to move him.
Not being a keeper doesn't mean DW isn’t a good player....it just means he's not who we should build around based on age and style of play next to others on the team....it's not a knock on him...
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