I think the kid has potential do it Pop!!!!
Nobody comes out and makes a difference immediately. Take that to the bank. There will never be another David or Tim that vaults us into contention by improving our record by 35 or 36 games.
LeBron didn’t make the playoffs until his third season.. That was almost 20 years ago. People need to stop judging any first round picks until at least 3 seasons have elapsed.
DRob’s rookie year was actually more impressive, without another Tier 1 as a teammate, and still making the biggest turnaround. Timmy on the other hand, landed on a playoff team and was just injured the previous year. Anyway, I honestly think a more stronger Chet could very well be a generational talent. I think the Spurs are better than it’s record. And IF Spurs somehow get lucky with the ping pong ball, and draft Chet and get him stronger, anything could happen. Funny, I always thought Timmy would land to the Spurs then. Who knows what’s going to happen? Never say never.
Of course it's true. Everything they do takes in mind long term viability. This is why they got rid of Derrick White; this is the reason they will get rid of Jakob Poeltl. I wonder how people continue to mistake the franchise they follow.
The Spurs will be more comfortable taking a guy later in the lottery than they would be at the top if there are absolutely exceptional franchise-worthy type players there. We need to probably break out of the paradigm we're in. And the team certainly isn't trading up to pick anybody's pet player.
I’m not talking about trading up. I’m talking about hitting the 26% top 4 pick odds. There’s no way they’re trading that pick.
I was somewhat of a Spurs fan that year but lived out of market so only saw national TV games and of course no internet coverage in a local scale back then. I know they had Dominique and world champion Maxwell along with a host of solid vets that did actually play - Del Negro, world champion Carl Herrera. Even without DRob and Sean I don’t see how they legitimately won only 20 games. There had to have been some strategizing by popvich to get close to Boston.
Anyway what’s funny is Pitino took the Boston job on the sole reasoning he would have Duncan as his cornerstone. Not only did Boston not win, the Spurs’ won the first two drawings on lottery night. Vancouver actually was worse than San Antonio also but they were ineligible to get the 1st pick due to an expansion agreement.
They did well to win 20 games that season. Dominique Wilkins was in his late 30s and wasn't a good player then and Vernon Maxwell was laughably bad all season. I think he shot like 35 percent for the season. The less said about Del Negro and 'world chmpion' Carl Herrera the better. There wasn't a single player who was even average defensively. Perhaps I'm missing some sarcasm because I haven't had my coffee yet
They didn't tank, unless your definition of tanking is not playing DRob for the last 5 or 6 games when he was supposedly healthy after being hurt the whole season. No one would risk their franchise player. They were legitimately that bad and they still had only like the 3rd or 4rth best odds for the number 1 pick.
Anyone who thinks the Spurs tanked for Duncan just look at Dominique. He was their only scorer and despite rumors of trade or buyout they kept him all year and kept playing him heavy minutes. The easiest way to tank would have been to get rid of him. He wasn't efficient but no one else could generate anything.
It was great idea to tank with Wilkins. It was better then random Young new leader
WTF? Robinson got hurt well after they signed Wilkins - he hurt his back in pre-season and then broke his foot after playing 6 games. They didn't sign Wilkins to try to tank but to win. They even played him the whole season, until the very end.
I know it. I mean keep him later during Lost season.
It's pretty much a given that we are picking 8th. Then we'll repeat what we did this season for the next one.
At this point I’d almost be happy for 8th. I’m getting pessimistic that we will fall to a worse slot.
Everyone available at 12 was available at 4. Not the other way around. They can always reach down and pick a player not "projected" to go until much later. They did it last year.
They aren't going to trade up to pick YOUR pet player, or SI's pet player. We all get that without being told. The real qeustion is, would they trade up to pick THEIR pet player if they felt very confident he wouldn't still be there when they are on the clock?
If the answer to that is "no", you just explained why we are even having this discussion. If the answer is "yes", then there's another way to accomplish the same thing: don't put up unnecessary hero wins at the end of a lost season. Then they could get the player they want without having to give up other assets to trade up.
My point was about tanking in general and how its not a good look. A generation after Timmy, Robinson and Lebron were drafted, people still talk about the tank job (there we injuries as well) the spurs did to get those players, its not all nice - we get no respect in the media. However the spurs were not the only team trying to land those players. Ask the Celtics, they are still crying about not landing Duncan and that was over 20 years ago.
People all knew Timmy, Robinson and especially Lebron would be generational talents and they turned into top 20 all time NBA greats. They were absolutely worth tanking for. This years draft looks only so so with a huge drop off after the top 3 or 4 picks. There don't appear to be any Lebron James or Duncan or Robinson level talents in this draft. Is there a player that might improve the spurs record by 10 games to around .500 ... possibly just not worth tanking for.
I rather the team be remembered for trying for the playoffs rather than tanking year after year like Sacramento or Orlando definitely landing talent but missing the playoffs for a decade or longer. Not a good look.
Last edited by jjspur; 03-23-2022 at 09:56 AM.
No, we're more likely to fall to 10 or worse.
No, I don't see them trading up into the top picks even if it was possible. That's been my thesis for a while now. I think they're very wary of how expensive top picks become.
On the topic of tanking, this is a team that didn't lose games to avoid a Memphis team that had their number. They don't 'lose strategically.' It's just not what this franchise does.
We’d be lucky to finish 8th at this point but it’s not at all a certainty. Knicks and Wizards only have a couple more losses than us and are now officially tanking, while the Spurs clearly aren’t. And even if we do finish 8th, we have a better chance of moving down to 9th during the draft lottery than we do moving up into the top-4.
What happens if spurs had the number 2 pick instead?
What do you mean by tanking? Do you mean by losing our playing youth players?
Who are the 4 worse teams?
Who were the 4 worst last season?
Are you really asking this? We don't get tim duncan and probably don't have a single ring. Team probably isn't even in San Antonio, TBH. Van Horn wasn't going to lead this team anywhere.
Pop is coach / pt janitor of the San Antonio Christian High School Crusaders.
Could seem him taking Chris Anstey or Tariq Abdul-Wahad from that 1997 class.
Basing mostly 19 year old prospects off of one season on mostly bad teams and thinking this irrelevant Spurs team will be remembered for trying to make the playoffs or would be less thought of for shamelessly tanking.
This organization isn't going anywhere until they get out of the dark ages.
Stadium vote fails no doubt in 2000. Wasn't Timmy in the ads backing the referendum leading up to the election?
I think it's pretty safe to say they will be 8-10, i really don't see them worse as they need to make the play in.
Their schedule is not easy, ok we have Portland 3 time and Houston but the other games are GS( ok not that good actually), Dallas, Denver, Memphis and Minny.
Imo they could be 10 if NY and Wash lose 7 or 8 of their last ten games.
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