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    And down goes the lake show again
    Why so y...LeBron n Davis back tomorrow they could win out

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    Why so y...LeBron n Davis back tomorrow they could win out
    fine by me. I dont want anything to do with the playin

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    They have no picks lol
    Bwahahahaha that's amazing!

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    Why so y...LeBron n Davis back tomorrow they could win out

    There is also a possibility that Davis is injured in the next game and out for the rest of the season.

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    That possibility exist for every player including ours

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    Why so y...LeBron n Davis back tomorrow they could win out
    They weren't that good even with Davis.

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    It's going to be a tight race with LeBron and AD coming back. They aren't going to win out, but neither are we.

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    Actually at this point of time, I think we will just let the team do what they want and we should just support them. Not making the play-in/play-off we get a lottery pick. If they did then it would be good for our younger guys to experience a more physical and more intense compe ion.

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    This net negative argument is so stupid and shallow. Yes, if you play Lonnie with 4 replacement level players or below, he's not going to have good advanced metrics. I don't believe anyone is saying that Lonnie is capable of carrying bad players and making them good. But this is the same nonsense we heard for years with Derozan. Now, we see with the Bulls that when you put him in a situation with a big who can score and guards who can defend, Derozan is pretty ing good. You guys look at stats and try to think of them as the end all be all without thinking about the context they come in. Lonnie has shown growth in his ability to be a high level scorer. That skillset is VALUABLE. Lonnie is likely never going to be an MVP level player, and that is OK. He's probably never going to be the kind of player that makes others around him better, thats OK. He's probably never going to make an all defensive team. So what? What he has shown, is the ability to do the most valuable thing in the NBA game: Score. This is enough to be an asset. We all wish Lonnie was an elite player, but he's likely never going to be that. So what?

    There have been a lot of "net negative" players who have been valuable parts of championship teams because they played a role and fit into the team.
    The trouble with Lonnie is that while he is capable of scoring and sometimes is as good as a microwave, heating up quickly; he is too damn inconsistent. Every third or fourth game, he scores in spurts and promises much but its what he does in the other two/three games that pulls him down. This is supposed to be his best season since he came in and look at the shooting percentages - 40.7% overall, 31.5% from the 3 and a below par TS% of 51%. Those are pretty poor numbers for someone who is supposedly good at the "one most valuable thing" - scoring. As things stand, Lonnie is more of a journeyman in the league, someone who flatters to deceive - the Jordan Crawford, Austin Rivers type of player.

    The Spurs are better off getting another good SG prospect to develop along with Vassell, Primo and Richardson instead of throwing money at Walker. And if the Spurs want a placeholder, shooting guard who can anchor the bench in scoring, they could target Malik Monk for a short contract and turn him into assets later on if required. I think Lonnie's time is up with the Spurs.

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    And we’re back in ! Thanks to Utah.
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    And now we're seeing DeRozan revert to type, and Chicago plummet. Sows ears and silk purses.

    Net negative is a thing, and it's a valid tool to evaluate players. If the other team, in the long term, scores more than your team WHEN YOU ARE IN THE GAME, even though you are scoring at a high rate, THAT'S KIND OF ING IMPORTANT. And it's not just because he's coming off the bench. In 148 games and about 2500 minutes as a reserve, his net Rtg is -16. In 56 games and about 1550 minutes as a starter his net Rtg is -18! He literally drags to any unit he plays for.

    You're smarter than this, Manny.

    Did I literally not say:

    Now, we see with the Bulls that when you put him in a situation with a big who can score and guards who can defend,



    So what do you think has changed so its not working as well for Chicago?

    The Chicago lineup of Caruso/Ball/Derozan is +17.8 per 100. Blows everything else they run away. But of course, Caruso was hurt, and Ball is hurt, so they aren't going to reach that anymore.

    Its about team construction not about "net negative" without context. Of course looking at the net effect of a player is a valid tool to evaluate players. I never said otherwise. I said the way you are using it is shallow AF. You guys just want to look at any given stat and have it tell you whether a player is able to be successful or not. Its not that simple and simply looking at a number and constantly parroting it is stupid AF and Derozan is just ONE obvious example of that.

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    Suppose the return of LeBron and AD is enough to get the Lakers into the play-in. Is there any chance that the Pelicans could fall far enough that we overtake them?

    Pelicans @ Lakers today.

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    Suppose the return of LeBron and AD is enough to get the Lakers into the play-in. Is there any chance that the Pelicans could fall far enough that we overtake them?

    Pelicans @ Lakers today.
    The Pelicans only have to fall into a tie, since we own the tie-breaker head to head 3-1. That being said, we're running out of time. Six games left, of which we will destroy Portland twice, but could possibly lose the other 4. There are still a lot of unsettled playoff positions

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    Suppose the return of LeBron and AD is enough to get the Lakers into the play-in. Is there any chance that the Pelicans could fall far enough that we overtake them?

    Pelicans @ Lakers today.
    It's possible if they lose tonight imo, if they win it will be very unlikely. Their schedule after tonight is Portland, Sacramento, GS, Clippers. They could win at least 2-3 games.

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    LeBron isn't gonna sit unless unhealthy.
    I think lebron would rather miss the playoffs than get embarrassed in the first round or the play-in. He’ll come back for a couple of games to qualify for the games-played requirement for the scoring le and then call it a season.
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    I think lebron would rather miss the playoffs than get embarrassed in the first round or the play-in. He’ll come back for a couple of games to qualify for the games-played requirement for the scoring le and then call it a season.
    You think missing the playoffs isn't more embarrassing?

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    of which we will destroy Portland twice,
    Because Portland is the most dedicated tank team for now iyo?
    Vegas giving much better odds to even Orlando )(vs Toronto. Also Pacers (vs Celtics.)

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    Because Portland is the most dedicated tank team for now iyo?
    Vegas giving much better odds to even Orlando )(vs Toronto. Also Pacers (vs Celtics.)
    Their injury list is 8-9 players every night, and it's always the same 8-9, and it's most of their rotation. The only game they've won in the last 10 is Houston, because they're just better at tanking. Portland is still learning the ropes.

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    I think the most important thing right now is consistency in how we play - this will set us up for success in the postseason, and we will take whatever success we have into next season.

    But certainly, consistency is the most important for our guys. And for Lonnie, he is best when he is aggressive - just gotta keep that aggression going. That fires the team up too, in a way. I feel like a lot of our team just doesn't play with enough compe ive fire at times.

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    Spurs just need to win the same number of games over the last six as LA.

    Portland - easy win
    Portland - easy win
    @ Denver - Nuggs tied w/ Utah for 6th seed though Dal/GS are tied at 3/4 so Denver can't worry about losing to get a favorable matchup yet
    @ Minny - 3 losses behind Den/Utah for 6th; otherwise they're going to face Memphis. They may not play to win this game
    GS - same boat as Denver; should be playing to win as of now to avoid Phoenix in Round 2
    @Dal - see GS; will play to win to avoid Phoenix in Round 2


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    New Orleans - Bobcats are mostly locked in at 9th seed; Ingram will play but momentum of Davis/James returning favors LA
    Denver - 50/50
    @Phoenix - nothing to play for. LA should win if they've got their heads straight
    @GS - toss up; LA whooped them last time
    OKC - should be a win;
    @Den - 50/50


    By this count both teams have two assured wins - though San Antonio's two wins are tied to the sun rising as Portland tanking to an all time extreme.
    LA has OKC and Phx as their locks. LA has to pull out a tough win for #3. Odds are good that the Spurs win 1 out of the 4 contested games. Spurs are the favorites to make the playoffs.

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    Spurs just need to win the same number of games over the last six as LA.

    Portland - easy win
    Portland - easy win
    @ Denver - Nuggs tied w/ Utah for 6th seed though Dal/GS are tied at 3/4 so Denver can't worry about losing to get a favorable matchup yet
    @ Minny - 3 losses behind Den/Utah for 6th; otherwise they're going to face Memphis. They may not play to win this game
    GS - same boat as Denver; should be playing to win as of now to avoid Phoenix in Round 2
    @Dal - see GS; will play to win to avoid Phoenix in Round 2


    Fake show
    New Orleans - Bobcats are mostly locked in at 9th seed; Ingram will play but momentum of Davis/James returning favors LA
    Denver - 50/50
    @Phoenix - nothing to play for. LA should win if they've got their heads straight
    @GS - toss up; LA whooped them last time
    OKC - should be a win;
    @Den - 50/50


    By this count both teams have two assured wins - though San Antonio's two wins are tied to the sun rising as Portland tanking to an all time extreme.
    LA has OKC and Phx as their locks. LA has to pull out a tough win for #3. Odds are good that the Spurs win 1 out of the 4 contested games. Spurs are the favorites to make the playoffs.
    Denver should also be worried about dropping from 6th to 7th and the play in. Minny can pick up a game on them tonight.

    GS is a quiet stealthy le contender. They may be worried about Home Court in the Finals against the top East teams.

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    Denver should also be worried about dropping from 6th to 7th and the play in. Minny can pick up a game on them tonight.

    GS is a quiet stealthy le contender. They may be worried about Home Court in the Finals against the top East teams.
    I'd be very surprised to see the Warriors go deep. Memphis is my dark horse after the Suns. Anyone else would be a fluke. Apart from the injuries, Golden State gets waxed by teams with strong bigs. Even with Draymond they get wrecked inside.

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    I'd be very surprised to see the Warriors go deep. Memphis is my dark horse after the Suns. Anyone else would be a fluke. Apart from the injuries, Golden State gets waxed by teams with strong bigs. Even with Draymond they get wrecked inside.
    Memphis a dark horse? Lol what? They're gonna finish with the 2nd best record in the NBA.

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    The Pelicans only have to fall into a tie, since we own the tie-breaker head to head 3-1. That being said, we're running out of time. Six games left, of which we will destroy Portland twice, but could possibly lose the other 4. There are still a lot of unsettled playoff positions
    I stupidly took over 33.5 wins instead of 32.5. There is a real chance we could lose the last four, especially as Mavs/Warriors in last two may still be playing for position.

    Blazers are must win, and I think they’ll be in for sure if they can pull off two of the other four. One of the other four and it’s possible. The Lakers aren’t doing better than 4-2 with Pelicans, Nuggets, Suns, Warriors and Nuggets in five of last six. Heck, they could even decide to forget to show up against the Thunder for all we know!

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    I'd be very surprised to see the Warriors go deep. Memphis is my dark horse after the Suns. Anyone else would be a fluke. Apart from the injuries, Golden State gets waxed by teams with strong bigs. Even with Draymond they get wrecked inside.
    GS is a former champion 3 seed who's second round opponent will be very inexperienced, playoff-wise. If they make the WCFs, the CP3 factor may kick in.

    We were a 2 seed in '05 and a 3 seed in '07.

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