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    Don’t know if the list is legit (I’d lean against no) but big boards by NBA teams should be dictated by their own heavy research as opposed to mock drafts made by the media which have been proven to be completely off (not by order, but by eventual player success) year by year. So your mock drafts that you rely so hard on to tell you whether a draft selection was good or bad, you sheep. Be original. Develop a keen eye for talent and stop listening to what everybody has to say all the time. But most of all, don’t be so enamored by highlights. Watch the lowlights, too. , watch a full college/international game if you can.

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    Wasn’t Primo mocked in the 20s initially as well? I don’t believe that list is true, but I also expect the Spurs to go their own way, not the projections.
    I mean, if you see something claimed to be from the Spurs regarding the draft or trades, it's automatically false. I don't think they've leaked even a fraction of anything for years. Yes, mocks had Primo down in the late first round, but as has been discussed many times, mock drafts were very slow to see him moving up, as well as Ziaire Williams. None of those mock drafts have anything to do with what the Spurs were doing. This list is probably the same thing -- just random bull .

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    I mean, if you see something claimed to be from the Spurs regarding the draft or trades, it's automatically false. I don't think they've leaked even a fraction of anything for years. Yes, mocks had Primo down in the late first round, but as has been discussed many times, mock drafts were very slow to see him moving up, as well as Ziaire Williams. None of those mock drafts have anything to do with what the Spurs were doing. This list is probably the same thing -- just random bull .
    True and I agree, but my point is no one knows what the Spurs are doing anyway. The fact that some names are looking like late first round picks don’t mean anything.

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    What list? I literally don't see anything . . .

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    Someone believe in this ?
    Welcome on Twitter and its hilarious wannabees where anyone can invent themselves a life... But lol at the fired ghost intern. Like spurs, or any team, was giving access to that kind of stuff to some intern who would give it then to some other nobody named Zeus with his 114 followers and Jean-Luc Picard avatar...
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    2 RT, 3 QT and 6 likes lean poster. Not even Don Harris would steal that .

    3 rt 1 qt, 7 likes for the evan hansen QT

    Also lol


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    Don’t know if the list is legit (I’d lean against no) but big boards by NBA teams should be dictated by their own heavy research as opposed to mock drafts made by the media which have been proven to be completely off (not by order, but by eventual player success) year by year. So your mock drafts that you rely so hard on to tell you whether a draft selection was good or bad, you sheep. Be original. Develop a keen eye for talent and stop listening to what everybody has to say all the time. But most of all, don’t be so enamored by highlights. Watch the lowlights, too. , watch a full college/international game if you can.

    Best advice ever. I don't expect many people to listen, but still solid advice. Gabriele Procida just declared for the draft. On paper, he looks almost like a prototype. On the highlight reels he looks like Superman. I'm not saying he's bad, just that neither of those things tells me anything meaningful. I wish I had followed him, to have some idea... but I haven't.

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    Nope. Halliburton was the consensus highest rated prospect still on the board.
    seemed like much more of a toss up on draft night than you make it out to be.

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    Welcome on Twitter and its hilarious wannabees where anyone can invent themselves a life... But lol at the fired ghost intern. Like spurs, or any team, was giving access to that kind of stuff to some intern who would give it then to some other nobody named Zeus with his 114 followers and Jean-Luc Picard avatar...

    Hey, hey... step lightly on the name.

    That list is probably BS. Most "leaked" information is. But information does leak, and interns sort of creep around the office like roaches, and people sometimes just ignore them.

    I said before, I would like the Spurs to just order two scoops of vanilla from this draft. But count how many times they've called the name of the Spurs' first pick and we've all said, "Who?" And then they pick someone that people have actually been talking about, and it's Sammich. The only reason I even gave that list a second look is because it's got a couple of guys who look like Spurs' Surprise picks.

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    Highlight reels (from high school) are causing a lot of casuals to swear Shaeden Sharpe deserves to go number one. Sheesh.

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    Hey, hey... step lightly on the name.

    That list is probably BS. Most "leaked" information is. But information does leak, and interns sort of creep around the office like roaches, and people sometimes just ignore them.

    I said before, I would like the Spurs to just order two scoops of vanilla from this draft. But count how many times they've called the name of the Spurs' first pick and we've all said, "Who?" And then they pick someone that people have actually been talking about, and it's Sammich. The only reason I even gave that list a second look is because it's got a couple of guys who look like Spurs' Surprise picks.
    Yeah probably but the thing about these Twitter mythomaniacs is that they don't even 2 minutes to think about their "stories"... The intern would have been fired.. before he leaked the list. I mean if they caught him "stealing" it (lol), he couln't have sent it to "Zeus Picard"... Dude litterally says in the same tweet he "leaks" the list it that the mysterious intern got fired... How did they know? He left his fingerprints? That kind of lists dont just lie on the kitchen table, you'll only find them on devices nowadays.

    Anyway 100% crap from Jean-Luc Zeus.
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    I personally wouldn't pick Sharpe in the top 5, but it's still a little odd hearing some fans say that taking a chance on Primo was a brilliant draft move, but potentially taking a chance on the former #1 ranked high school guy isn't... are high risk high reward moves only interesting if they're done by your favorite team? Sharpe's the same age as Jabari Smith and Jeremy Sochan, and older than Jalen Duren, so it's not even like he has an advantage there, but if he shows up at pre-draft workouts and looks good-- like Primo did-- why wouldn't you consider it? I mean if Devin Vassell plays 20 minutes in a gym with Sharpe and then tells Brian Wright "holy , this dude is better than Primo right now," is Wright going to say "nah, that, he's too inexperienced to draft?"


    It's gets a little tiring to hear some people on spurstalk refer to all mock drafts as lame or amateurish. Lots of them are done by guys with a ton of experience and a great eye for talent, as well as inside advantages that none of us have, like access to players, the chance to interview & watch them play in person, personal contacts with front office guys, etc... Like anything else, it's all a matter of choosing which ones to look at, and knowing which ones have a history of wise and informed selections. Sure, some random dude on Bleacher Report can be easily dismissed. But Jonathan Givony, Mike Schmitz, Kevin O'Connor, Hollinger, the Dean on Draft guy, etc? A lot of those guys actually have better records choosing players than the GMs of some NBA teams. Writing them all off as a bunch of Know Nothings is ridiculous. They're extremely well informed guys who devote all of their time to scouting.
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    Of course if Sharpe looks great at the combine and interviews well you consider him. What point are you making? People are saying that jacking off over the dude because he rocked some 5'8" high schoolers is kind of stupid, but it's common among casual ESPN fans.

    Primo was moving because he was working out very well and did great at the combine, plus teams really really liked his demeanor. That's it. If Sharpe does those things, then great. Drafting him in the top 5 just because he has some Youtube videos is dumb as , but then no team is actually going to do that. I hope.

    And mock drafts are fun, but are strictly amateur level. There are some like Givony and others who have some in-roads with teams and start reflecting whwat they hear. They're almsot always wrong anyway, even the guys who get paid for this .

    So you're kinda ranting about nothin'.

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    rant on, pal

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    To me, Sharpe is a mix of James Wiseman and Dante Exum until proven otherwise, and I won't have access to what teams see. So for now I won't worship some jaggoff who couldn't be bothered to get prepped and in shape when he was eligible to play and his team could have used him.

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    The problem with mock drafts is that they have already solidified many draft ranges because of what amounts to group think. The hive mind has decided AJ Griffin is a tier 2 player. Deserves to go shortly after the top 4 guys, everyone says. Really? Why? Because a lot of commentators have been saying this for months and a lot of message boards repeat the same stuff as this received wisdom. Then GMs get pressure to not rock the boat and make 'safe' picks so they don't piss off the fans and owners and get fired. Then in three to four years everyone forgets how the drafts actually went and a lot of teams have ed up the process.

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    Leonard Miller is pick 35 on NBAdraft.net's latest mock (dated April 12).
    To be honest Draft.Net is probably one of the worst mocks to look at it’s went down hill fast. If you look at 2023 NBA Mock Draft they have him going 9. Not saying Spurs will pick him but if he enters the draft that will have a slight impact on draft

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    The problem with mock drafts is that they have already solidified many draft ranges because of what amounts to group think. The hive mind has decided AJ Griffin is a tier 2 player. Deserves to go shortly after the top 4 guys, everyone says. Really? Why? Because a lot of commentators have been saying this for months and a lot of message boards repeat the same stuff as this received wisdom. Then GMs get pressure to not rock the boat and make 'safe' picks so they don't piss off the fans and owners and get fired. Then in three to four years everyone forgets how the drafts actually went and a lot of teams have ed up the process.

    In 2014, the Dean On Draft website had Nikola Jokic at #16 on his big board, and predicted in his mock that the Spurs would grab him with their late first round pick. That's something that 30 professional GMs missed. If the Spurs had felt "pressured" to take Jokic, they'd be miles ahead of where they currently are. Again, you can't lump all mocks in the same boat. There are literally 100s of them, and they have the same range as NBA players, from end of bench scrubs to first team all NBA superstars.
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    Evan Townsend and Zeus probably work for PTR or Clutchpoints #Porvida

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    L Miller declared for the draft. I much rather like that gamble as opposed to Sharpe due to his size.

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    Just waiting on word from John Butler of FSU now it seems. I’d imagine he’d at least dip his toes in…

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    L Miller declared for the draft. I much rather like that gamble as opposed to Sharpe due to his size.
    This is the real open growth plate example. He has grown 6” in the last 18 months. Now is 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan.

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    AJ Griffin is going to be the one who’s falls on draft day imo. I could see him falling out of the top-10 entirely.

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    Highlight reels (from high school) are causing a lot of casuals to swear Shaeden Sharpe deserves to go number one. Sheesh.
    Hey that’s fine just pushes everyone down farther

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