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Ogbaji plays with fire and heart and he is skilled. Hope the Spurs can trade one of the later picks to move up enough and get him.
I really don’t want a Guard with our first pick but I can see why the Spurs would be interested. One of the best 2-way players in CBB last season. 6’5 215 lbs with a 6’10 wingspan. Athletic. Would definitely signal the end of Lonnie’s time in San Antonio though.
Ogbaji plays with fire and heart and he is skilled. Hope the Spurs can trade one of the later picks to move up enough and get him.
Mixtape made today of Miller’s high school highlights. He’s got some legit talent, especially for his age tbh. To go along with that 6’11 frame. If he stays in the draft, he’s gonna shoot up boards imo.
Ochai Agbaji - Definitely not with the first pick. Very interested with the later picks.
Leonard Miller - My bet is he shoots up into lottery consideration, late lottery or even mid.
Damn interesting prospect. Hopefully he declares to get more talent into the top ten.
He officially declared
But I think he can still back out, right? Hopefully he stays. Not saying he’s the Spurs’ target but he checks a lot of theoretical boxes, and with a bunch ofpicks, seems like a player to look into.
Sharpe > Miller
People interested in Miller now since they saw a phony list with him as the Spurs top prospect.
Imo Agbaji is a wing not a guard, with his wingspan he can play the 2 and the 3. Maybe too high at 9 as i see a really strong role player in the NBA and he'll probably be gone at 20.
Other than that if the spurs take Agbaji that means Keldon will still play PF, imo the spurs have to draft a pure SG or a combo guard to say goodbye for sure to Lonnie.
Agbaji is better at the 2. You lose his length advantage he would have at the 2 if you slot him at 3.
Leonard Miller = Chris Bosh, Jr.
He'd be in Pop's G-League for 2 years easy. He's the type of pick that's worth the reach, imo. Because he should be REALLY good for sure in 3-5 years. So maybe at 20 if he's still available. I wouldn't reach beyond like 10 or 12 on him though given he's a project. So depends where Spurs lottery comes in.
Sharpe will be gone before the Spurs pick at 9. No way you take Miller at 9.
Leonard Miller could be a wildcard. Not saying I have a great handle on his talent but I'm glad he's in the draft at this point so that if nothing else maybe other players fall to one of our multiple picks.
With Agbaji, he could easily be another senior that was around in the middle of the first round who people later wish they had picked. I don't worry that he's a senior, just the opposite, I kind of like it because it's actually nice for a player now and then to be able to come in and play right away. He looks to be a role player, but his shooting looks legit and he has enough athleticism where you hope he could still add to his game and improve. He's not the player position we need to target at all but sad to say I'd way more have him on the team next year than Lonnie Walker, not even a hesitation about that.
Remember though, we aren't locked at 9. Could be top 4, could be 10 or worse. That's why I said I don't think you go above like 10 or so for Miller despite some having him inside that top ten. I think he will be a really solid player, in like 3 to 4 years. But given the team is trying to build with a bunch of 21-26 year olds, a 4 yr timeframe might not work for the teams best interests, plus you already have Brawndo (did you know he's the youngest player in the league = sarcasm) trying to develop.
I think this is the right way to look at it. Although, I do think that we have to consider that the FO could push back the timeline (if Pop retires) and keep the Vassell and younger guys and trade the DJ, Poeltl, and KJ group for future assets. I don't necessarily expect it (I think it goes the way you layed it out) but it's not out of the realm of possibility if they don't feel like they can add to the current core. If they did that I could see them reaching a bit on Miller or trading up a bit for Sharpe..
At 9 i will not be cheerful with Miller as i think the Spurs needs some help right away. But like all project you'll see in 2-3 years but i really think we can draft someone who will be good directly.
At 20 or 25 i could go with a project.
Miller is less of a project, and closer to a boom-or-bust pick. And I don't think he'll be a total bust. He absolutely COULD be a star in the NBA, but he'll at least play. He's a perfect positional fit for the Spurs, and last I checked, he was shooting around .400 from 3P this season. Weak defenders can give you a path to the rim, but they can't throw the ball through the hole for you. There's zero chance, IMO, that the Spurs take him if they move up because there are three known-quan y forwards there. At 9 he would be a swing for the fence, but we keep talking about how the Spurs land a player that makes them better than mediocre, and something like this is one way. If he goes to Kentucky (or several other top-tier programs) next season, my guess is that it's at least a coin toss that he's in the Top-4 discussion this time next year.
Would I pick him at 9? Nope. But I don't have professional scouts that have been out to watch him in person. If the Spurs pick him there, you can bet that they think he can give them a shot at being contenders again - and that's what we all say we want. If I hear the Spurs call his name on draft night, I will be excited, because it wll mean that they have that much confidence in a right-size, right-fit player. For me it's as simple as that.
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That he grew 7 inches in 18 months from 6'4" to 6'11" with a 7'4 wingspan is special because he came up with some agility that most big men don't possess. And I agree that he's boom or bust. I say he reminds me of Chris Bosh, who is in the HOF now, so the kid has lots of upsides. And he **could** be even better...SCARY GOOD, upside.
Just don't know if you go there for someone that clearly has some years of development to add some wright/muscle, and to adjust to the NBA physicality, and where he'll be playing given he is a 7' footer practically. He's gonna have to be a PF/C given his height and wingspan, at least defensively, with the potential to guard 1-5.
I don't disagree, my opinion is maybe it's not good to go for boom or bust this year, i could be wrong. I just saw some highlights of Miller, based on the level of compe ion it's very hard to evaluate him.
Offcourse, if the Spurs take him, i will believe in their process but i think you can have something pretty equal and more ready at 9. I could be totally wrong on this but that's my vision.
Looks meh to me. I may be wrong and it's only highlights but doesn't see him as a good fit in the NBA even once he's done being project - yup I know he's still young.
His shot form looks bad and his body frame (and poised) even if he bulks up, it seems he will struggle.
I'm seeing some at ude issue or maybe he's only being hyped. He has the tendency to over do or forces things.
Honestly hard to judge since the compe ion of the highlights is against high school but in comparison to Shaedon Sharpe, I'm more impressed with SS on how he plays even though the footage are limited to high school compe ion as well.
Just an initial impression. lol
Seems like another Tony Snell or with some a little bit of Chris Bosh for me. But if he's available at 38th, I guess not bad esp. if he pans out considering he'll be a project for the meantime.
Chris Bosh was a damn fine player.
Are we watching he same videos? “He doesn’t seem like a good fit in the NBA.” How..? He’s 6’11, a solid athlete, is a good passer, can shoot the midrange J, and was a 40% shooter from 3 his Senior year… How is that not a good fit for the NBA lol. And I’m curious what part of that makes you think he’s “Tony Snell” lmao (who is 6’6 btw — they’re nothing alike).
I’m not saying the kid is gonna be a star, but he’s clearly got a lot of talent and skills that translate directly to the next level. He’s a 5-Star recruit for a reason. The likes of Kentucky & Arizona want him badly. Should tell you something. If he goes to college or the G-League for a year and plays well, he could easily be a top-10 pick next year.
Seriously. He’s a literal a Hall of Famer. We’d be lucky to select a player of that caliber. And I’m not saying Miller is, but there’s clearly some similarities to their games, hence my comparison.
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