Official 2022 NBA Draft thread

[The Truth #6]

You can't say he can't shoot, he showed some nice things in that regard. Still a work in progress but he made 10 of his 19 shots from the elbow for example. He has a high ceilling imo and he can defend the perimeter.

Every team needs someone like that, a true guy in the paint.



Is he worth a top 10 pick ? yes absolutely for me. Is he the player spurs needs ? not necesseraly.

It’s not simply me saying he can’t shoot, it’s every analysis I read about him.

Here’s another I just found: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/...al-and-rebound

So the issue is how much one likes what he already does while hoping he becomes more self sufficient on offense outside of put backs and alley oops.

[objective]

Oh, I have more questions than ballhandling. I'm fascinated by him, but he's like that freak of nature who just freakin dominates at your Y games, just kills people, but could never win a lot in organized ball because he's always fouling out and coughing the ball up.

Yeah, I was pretty intrigued by him in my early looks, but the more I've seen and had time to think, he might be less Kawhi and more KJ McDaniels, who I loved in his draft over Kyle Anderson. After a better rookie season it turned out that KJ was too wild and too much of a headache and not serious enough about the game it seemed. Super productive, big time athlete, huge steals and blocks numbers in college, 21 years old for the draft ...

Not saying that Eason has a bad personality or work ethic, just seems a concerning to me the program changes with the high fouls, maybe he's not as promising as the numbers look

[duncan2150]

It’s not simply me saying he can’t shoot, it’s every analysis I read about him.

Here’s another I just found: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/...al-and-rebound

So the issue is how much one likes what he already does while hoping he becomes more self sufficient on offense outside of put backs and alley oops.

But what about the numbers ? what i saw not just read, is that he can shoot. Not saying he's comfortable but saying he can't is going against numbers.

https://cbbanalytics.com/tools/shot-charts ( player shot charts- shot zones)

Agreed with your last sentence tough.

[The Truth #6]

The numbers I read are 17/52 on shots outside the paint. Not trying to argue or root against the guy, but to me the shooting is a question mark, with the caveat that the form looks somewhat decent but with low reps.

[BackHome]

The kid is an elite defender though he has upside and decent offensive game it’s the turn over and fouls that make people scratch there head. This kid has every person perplexed on trying to figure out if he is going to be a stud or a dud and where he fits in the draft he is all over the mocks.

[PhantomDashCam]

Are they bluffing ala Boston did with Fultz? Hard to say.

Draft predictions as of 27/5. No doubt will have missed some guys but it is what it is:

1. Chet
2. Jabari
3. Paolo
4. Ivey
5. Mathurin
6. Murray
7. Sharpe (Possible Trade)
8. Daniels
9. Jalen W
10. Johnny Davis
11. Jalen Duren
12. Jeremy Sochan
13. AJ Griffin (if medically cleared)
14. Ochai Agbaji
15. Mark Williams
16. EJ Liddell
17. Jaden Hardy
18. Kendall Brown
19. Ousmane Dieng
20. Gabe Procida
21. Tari Eason
22. Malaki Branham
23. Patrick Baldwin
24. Bryce McGowens
25. Josh Minott
26. Marjon Beauchamp
27. Blake Wesley
28. Nikola Jovic
29. Jake Laravia
30. Caleb Houston

[Ignazzz]

Sharpe?

[PhantomDashCam]

Sharpe?

Good catch. Moved him back into #7. Griffin drops a few slots, as does Blake Wesley. Ty Ty falls to second round now…

[duncan2150]

[Degoat]

Saw Kendall Browns pro day on Twitter, his jumper was looking pretty smooth tbh

[PhantomDashCam]

Be very interesting if Josh Minott is at that same workout...

[Dejounte]

2022 NBA Player comps


Chet - Porzingis with better defense
Jabari - Rudy Gay, JJJ
Banchero - old LeBron, Blake Griffin
Jaden Ivey - Dwyane Wade
Sharpe - Lesser Bradley Beal
KMurray - Carlos Boozer
AJ Griffin - DeMarre Carroll
Dyson Daniels - Brandon Roy, Tyrese Haliburton
Bennedict Mathurin - Zach Lavine, Andrew Wiggins
Jeremy Sochan - Draymond Green
Jalen Duren - Javale McGee
Johnny Davis - Jordan Crawford on offense, Divincenzo on defense
Mark Williams - Rudy Gobert
Ousmane Dieng - Poor man’s Batum, Poor man’s Ginobili
Tari Eason - Poor man’s Kawhi, Trevor Ariza
Malaki Branham - Poor man’s Paul George/ Jimmy Butler
Ochai Agbaji - Eric Gordon
Kendall Brown - Otto Porter Jr
Nikola Jovic - Deni Avdija
MarJon Beauchamp - Danny Green, Bruce Bowen, Trevor Ariza, Paul George (this guy is a tough read)
PBJ - Cam Johnson
EJ Liddell - Grant Williams with better shotblocking
Blake Wesley - Dwyane Wade, Donavon Mitc
Jake LaRavia - Shawn Marion
Jalen Williams - Doncic, DeMar
Minott - Jaxson Hayes, pre-injury Zach Collins


**Disclaimer #1: I didn’t spend equal time watching each of these guys. Some I watched a lot more than others
Disclaimer #2: It’s a lot easier to think of good players than bad ones. Some players I could have made a better comp for if I could recall worse players.
Disclaimer #3: I do NOT think every player on the list will turn out to be the comp I listed for them. For some, I only think their style of play reminds me of them.

[tonight...you]

2022 NBA Player comps


Chet - Porzingis with better defense
Jabari - Rudy Gay, JJJ
Banchero - old LeBron, Blake Griffin
Jaden Ivey - Dwyane Wade
Sharpe - Lesser Bradley Beal
KMurray - Carlos Boozer
AJ Griffin - DeMarre Carroll
Dyson Daniels - Brandon Roy, Tyrese Haliburton
Bennedict Mathurin - Zach Lavine, Andrew Wiggins
Jeremy Sochan - Draymond Green
Jalen Duren - Javale McGee
Johnny Davis - Jordan Crawford on offense, Divincenzo on defense
Mark Williams - Rudy Gobert
Ousmane Dieng - Poor man’s Batum, Poor man’s Ginobili
Tari Eason - Poor man’s Kawhi, Trevor Ariza
Malaki Branham - Poor man’s Paul George/ Jimmy Butler
Ochai Agbaji - Eric Gordon
Kendall Brown - Otto Porter Jr
Nikola Jovic - Deni Avdija
MarJon Beauchamp - Danny Green, Bruce Bowen, Trevor Ariza, Paul George (this guy is a tough read)
PBJ - Cam Johnson
EJ Liddell - Grant Williams with better shotblocking
Blake Wesley - Dwyane Wade, Donavon Mitc
Jake LaRavia - Shawn Marion
Jalen Williams - Doncic, DeMar
Minott - Jaxson Hayes, pre-injury Zach Collins


**Disclaimer #1: I didn’t spend equal time watching each of these guys. Some I watched a lot more than others
Disclaimer #2: It’s a lot easier to think of good players than bad ones. Some players I could have made a better comp for if I could recall worse players.
Disclaimer #3: I do NOT think every player on the list will turn out to be the comp I listed for them. For some, I only think their style of play reminds me of them.

Totally appreciate the effort.
No need to argue the details.
This was a great post.

Maybe you're a sage, maybe you're bonkers, maybe you're like everyone else: a guy with eyes/ears and an opinion to go with what you've observed.

You are a joy to this board. Of that I am sure.

[Degoat]

In two years who will be the best among these 3? Sochan, Dieng, and Eason. I kinda think it could be Dieng tbh

[exstatic]

In two years who will be the best among these 3? Sochan, Dieng, and Eason. I kinda think it could be Dieng tbh

Dieng
Sochan
Eason

[mo7888]

In two years who will be the best among these 3? Sochan, Dieng, and Eason. I kinda think it could be Dieng tbh

Dieng is my bet...

Eason probably has a slightly higher ceiling than Sochan but I don't think it's sufficiently higher to take him over Sochan and his higher floor...

[R. DeMurre]

2022 NBA Player comps


Chet - Porzingis with better defense
Jabari - Rudy Gay, JJJ
Banchero - old LeBron, Blake Griffin
Jaden Ivey - Dwyane Wade
Sharpe - Lesser Bradley Beal
KMurray - Carlos Boozer
AJ Griffin - DeMarre Carroll
Dyson Daniels - Brandon Roy, Tyrese Haliburton
Bennedict Mathurin - Zach Lavine, Andrew Wiggins
Jeremy Sochan - Draymond Green
Jalen Duren - Javale McGee
Johnny Davis - Jordan Crawford on offense, Divincenzo on defense
Mark Williams - Rudy Gobert
Ousmane Dieng - Poor man’s Batum, Poor man’s Ginobili
Tari Eason - Poor man’s Kawhi, Trevor Ariza
Malaki Branham - Poor man’s Paul George/ Jimmy Butler
Ochai Agbaji - Eric Gordon
Kendall Brown - Otto Porter Jr
Nikola Jovic - Deni Avdija
MarJon Beauchamp - Danny Green, Bruce Bowen, Trevor Ariza, Paul George (this guy is a tough read)
PBJ - Cam Johnson
EJ Liddell - Grant Williams with better shotblocking
Blake Wesley - Dwyane Wade, Donavon Mitc
Jake LaRavia - Shawn Marion
Jalen Williams - Doncic, DeMar
Minott - Jaxson Hayes, pre-injury Zach Collins


**Disclaimer #1: I didn’t spend equal time watching each of these guys. Some I watched a lot more than others
Disclaimer #2: It’s a lot easier to think of good players than bad ones. Some players I could have made a better comp for if I could recall worse players.
Disclaimer #3: I do NOT think every player on the list will turn out to be the comp I listed for them. For some, I only think their style of play reminds me of them.

The Sochan/Draymond comp will probably set some people off, but I think it's a good one.

[scott]

2022 NBA Player comps


Chet - Porzingis with better defense
Jabari - Rudy Gay, JJJ
Banchero - old LeBron, Blake Griffin
Jaden Ivey - Dwyane Wade
Sharpe - Lesser Bradley Beal
KMurray - Carlos Boozer
AJ Griffin - DeMarre Carroll
Dyson Daniels - Brandon Roy, Tyrese Haliburton
Bennedict Mathurin - Zach Lavine, Andrew Wiggins
Jeremy Sochan - Draymond Green
Jalen Duren - Javale McGee
Johnny Davis - Jordan Crawford on offense, Divincenzo on defense
Mark Williams - Rudy Gobert
Ousmane Dieng - Poor man’s Batum, Poor man’s Ginobili
Tari Eason - Poor man’s Kawhi, Trevor Ariza
Malaki Branham - Poor man’s Paul George/ Jimmy Butler
Ochai Agbaji - Eric Gordon
Kendall Brown - Otto Porter Jr
Nikola Jovic - Deni Avdija
MarJon Beauchamp - Danny Green, Bruce Bowen, Trevor Ariza, Paul George (this guy is a tough read)
PBJ - Cam Johnson
EJ Liddell - Grant Williams with better shotblocking
Blake Wesley - Dwyane Wade, Donavon Mitc
Jake LaRavia - Shawn Marion
Jalen Williams - Doncic, DeMar
Minott - Jaxson Hayes, pre-injury Zach Collins


**Disclaimer #1: I didn’t spend equal time watching each of these guys. Some I watched a lot more than others
Disclaimer #2: It’s a lot easier to think of good players than bad ones. Some players I could have made a better comp for if I could recall worse players.
Disclaimer #3: I do NOT think every player on the list will turn out to be the comp I listed for them. For some, I only think their style of play reminds me of them.

Of the players discussed in our ranges, these comps stand out as the most exciting to me. Probably the reason we've been largely talking about these guys. The Wesley comp has me wanting to dig deeper into him.

Fun post, thanks for putting these thoughts together.

[John B]

F@ck that. Spurs can never be wrong

[Ariel]

The Wesley comp has me wanting to dig deeper into him.

Raw but athletic combo guard with high scoring potential:



I think there's a good chance he could fill Lonnie's role for cheaper and with higher potential.

Very interesting prospect, I'm hoping we land him with one of the picks in the 20s... might go earlier

Check those out. Very intriguing prospect. He needs to play smarter and more efficient, be more selective and improve as a shooter, but he's very young and he's got all the raw tools. If we're swinging for the fences at 20, he's definitely one of the better options (along with Jalen Williams and Jaden Hardy, probably).

[exstatic]

F@ck that. Spurs can never be wrong

Sure they can. Sammich was a mistake. Lonnie, too.

What they’re not wrong on is the approach: swing for the HR.

[Marco]

Sochan reminds me of Rodman, on defense.

[offset formation]

2022 NBA Player comps


Chet - Porzingis with better defense
Jabari - Rudy Gay, JJJ
Banchero - old LeBron, Blake Griffin
Jaden Ivey - Dwyane Wade
Sharpe - Lesser Bradley Beal
KMurray - Carlos Boozer
AJ Griffin - DeMarre Carroll
Dyson Daniels - Brandon Roy, Tyrese Haliburton
Bennedict Mathurin - Zach Lavine, Andrew Wiggins
Jeremy Sochan - Draymond Green
Jalen Duren - Javale McGee
Johnny Davis - Jordan Crawford on offense, Divincenzo on defense
Mark Williams - Rudy Gobert
Ousmane Dieng - Poor man’s Batum, Poor man’s Ginobili
Tari Eason - Poor man’s Kawhi, Trevor Ariza
Malaki Branham - Poor man’s Paul George/ Jimmy Butler
Ochai Agbaji - Eric Gordon
Kendall Brown - Otto Porter Jr
Nikola Jovic - Deni Avdija
MarJon Beauchamp - Danny Green, Bruce Bowen, Trevor Ariza, Paul George (this guy is a tough read)
PBJ - Cam Johnson
EJ Liddell - Grant Williams with better shotblocking
Blake Wesley - Dwyane Wade, Donavon Mitc
Jake LaRavia - Shawn Marion
Jalen Williams - Doncic, DeMar
Minott - Jaxson Hayes, pre-injury Zach Collins


**Disclaimer #1: I didn’t spend equal time watching each of these guys. Some I watched a lot more than others
Disclaimer #2: It’s a lot easier to think of good players than bad ones. Some players I could have made a better comp for if I could recall worse players.
Disclaimer #3: I do NOT think every player on the list will turn out to be the comp I listed for them. For some, I only think their style of play reminds me of them.

Best ing draft class in NBA history right there.

[offset formation]

Sure they can. Sammich was a mistake. Lonnie, too.

What they’re not wrong on is the approach: swing for the HR.

I'd rather swing for a homerun than a visit to the HR department. Just me.

[rascal]

Draymond Green is more athletic than Sochan.