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    Jovic is who Spurs can stash for a couple of years. I can’t see the Spurs playing 4 rookies. Again Jovic has guard skills at 6’11”, high Bball IQ. High rewards, low risk if he pans out. But Procida is another candidate.
    Word is that Jovic wants to come over this year. Though they could draft him and force him to stay.

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    The more I watch Jovic the more I don't want him at any pick. I don't see what's so good about his game.

    Give me Procida, that guy can play some.
    Not to stereotype, but too many Samanic similarities to go down that road again. Guard like ball skills at 6'10'-6'11'' sounds nice, but as a likely defensively liability who will be in a stretch four as opposed to point forward role, if it's not complimented by plus shooting it's mostly meaningless.


    It's not unreasonable to think Duren could be one of the best C, perhaps Top 3, in four years time at age 22.
    Yeah, it is. His comp is probably R. Williams, who as good as he is, is inarguably behind: Jokic, Embiid, Davis, Towns, Gobert, Adebayo. You could debate whether he's in the next group with Ayton, Sabonis, Allen, but consensus would have them ahead too. Either way, that's probably about the peak for that type of C in today's game.

    I'd be fine with either Duren or M. Williams, so long as it's in a Poeltl to Hornets trade where they get back 13 or 15.
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    Yeah, it is. His comp is probably R. Williams, who as good as he is, is inarguably behind: Jokic, Embiid, Davis, Towns, Gobert, Adebayo. You could debate whether he's in the next group with Ayton, Sabonis, Allen, but consensus would have them ahead too. Either way, that's probably about the peak for that type of C in today's game.

    I'd be fine with either Duren or M. Williams, so long as it's in a Poeltl to Hornets trade where they get back 13 or 15.
    I rather Spurs get Eason for that 13-15 pick than Duren or Williams. Eason is that ultra defensive PF Spurs need against Giannis, Tatum, Mobley and other new blood of mobile bigs.

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    Yeah, it is. His comp is probably R. Williams, who as good as he is, is inarguably behind: Jokic, Embiid, Davis, Towns, Gobert, Adebayo. You could debate whether he's in the next group with Ayton, Sabonis, Allen, but consensus would have them ahead too. Either way, that's probably about the peak for that type of C in today's game.

    I'd be fine with either Duren or M. Williams, so long as it's in a Poeltl to Hornets trade where they get back 13 or 15.
    I think a comp is sort of a turbo charged Robert Williams. He's bigger, heavier, longer, just as bouncy, and two years younger than Williams was.

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    I rather Spurs get Eason for that 13-15 pick than Duren or Williams. Eason is that ultra defensive PF Spurs need against Giannis, Tatum, Mobley and other new blood of mobile bigs.
    If I'm reading it correctly, he's talking about Duren at 9, flip Poeltl to CHA for 13 or 15, and make whatever selection there.

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    Duren vs. Robert Williams (as mentioned, Duren is two years younger at the same point)

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...obert-williams

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    If I'm reading it correctly, he's talking about Duren at 9, flip Poeltl to CHA for 13 or 15, and make whatever selection there.
    Then I rather Spurs get Johnny Davis at 9, who checks off go-to scorer and point-of-attack defender, both Spurs immediate needs

    I feel a defensive big can be had at 25 with Koloko, Kessler, Robinson, Diop.

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    If I'm reading it correctly, he's talking about Duren at 9, flip Poeltl to CHA for 13 or 15, and make whatever selection there.
    I like the strategy of making CHA sweat about not getting a C in this draft. Whether Jak for 13, or flipping Duren (9) for 13 & 15 it feels like there is something to be had with dealing with CHA.

    With 13 & 15 I'd like some combo of Williams, Eason, or Griffin. Then take TyTy at 20.

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    I rather Spurs get Eason for that 13-15 pick than Duren or Williams. Eason is that ultra defensive PF Spurs need against Giannis, Tatum, Mobley and other new blood of mobile bigs.
    Tatum isn't a big, but Eason is definitely the type to serve as a primary defender on him and his ilk. Antetokounmpo is far too strong though.

    I wouldn't be opposed to him at 13 or 15, but as I've said from early on he doesn't strike me as a Spur.


    I think a comp is sort of a turbo charged Robert Williams. He's bigger, heavier, longer, just as bouncy, and two years younger than Williams was.

    If I'm reading it correctly, he's talking about Duren at 9, flip Poeltl to CHA for 13 or 15, and make whatever selection there.
    Obviously Duren could still grow, but I think they're both 6'10''ish in shoes and Williams is 255 now.

    Nah, I mean pick whatever guard/wing they're likely to at 9, then (I don't love it, but just for example) Poeltl and 25 for Washington Jr. and 13 or 15 and pick one of the centers.

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    I rather Spurs get Eason for that 13-15 pick than Duren or Williams. Eason is that ultra defensive PF Spurs need against Giannis, Tatum, Mobley and other new blood of mobile bigs.
    Eason has a ton to clean up otherwise he's going to foul out by the 3rd quarter guarding those players as of this moment.

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    Yeah, it is. His comp is probably R. Williams, who as good as he is, is inarguably behind: Jokic, Embiid, Davis, Towns, Gobert, Adebayo. You could debate whether he's in the next group with Ayton, Sabonis, Allen, but consensus would have them ahead too. Either way, that's probably about the peak for that type of C in today's game.

    I'd be fine with either Duren or M. Williams, so long as it's in a Poeltl to Hornets trade where they get back 13 or 15.
    FWIW - Did most of this after just turning 18.
    I think he's much further along than Robert Williams was at that age. I'd be thrilled if the outcome is somewhere even in the middle of those two at #9...


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    I like the strategy of making CHA sweat about not getting a C in this draft. Whether Jak for 13, or flipping Duren (9) for 13 & 15 it feels like there is something to be had with dealing with CHA.

    With 13 & 15 I'd like some combo of Williams, Eason, or Griffin. Then take TyTy at 20.
    I think getting 13 or/and 15 in a package deal involving Poeltl + one of the later picks is a smart move while keeping 9. Eason should be a target in that range.

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    Then I rather Spurs get Johnny Davis at 9, who checks off go-to scorer and point-of-attack defender, both Spurs immediate needs

    I feel a defensive big can be had at 25 with Koloko, Kessler, Robinson, Diop.
    You do you. Some of us don’t want to settle for the 3rd,4th,5th, or 6th best center. After all of the complaints about Poeltl’s limitations, I thought there might be some support for an upgrade. None of those guys are it, and I flat hate Kessler.

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    If I'm reading it correctly, he's talking about Duren at 9, flip Poeltl to CHA for 13 or 15, and make whatever selection there.
    I would be ecstatic with that.

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    You do you. Some of us don’t want to settle for the 3rd,4th,5th, or 6th best center. After all of the complaints about Poeltl’s limitations, I thought there might be some support for an upgrade. None of those guys are it, and I flat hate Kessler.
    Nah, I wouldn’t be too disappointed if they went for Duren at 9 . But Spurs would still leave a hole in point-of-attack where athletic guards torch them. And Johnny Davis is probably the best 2way besides Chet in this draft. Daniels is intriguing at 6’8” and could still be growing at 19. Plus Davis is another facilitator out there. He’s not just a c&s, but sucks double and triple team when he penetrates. Spurs don’t have that player.

    The question is what does PATFO prioritize on this draft.

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    Nah, I wouldn’t be too disappointed if they went for Duren at 9 . But Spurs would still leave a hole in point-of-attack where athletic guards torch them. And Johnny Davis is probably the best 2way besides Chet in this draft. Daniels is intriguing at 6’8” and could still be growing at 19. Plus Davis is another facilitator out there. He’s not just a c&s, but sucks double and triple team when he penetrates. Spurs don’t have that player.

    The question is what does PATFO prioritize on this draft.
    I guess you could say that Duren helps that lack of "point-of-attack" guards by protecting the rim.

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    Nah, I wouldn’t be too disappointed if they went for Duren at 9 . But Spurs would still leave a hole in point-of-attack where athletic guards torch them. And Johnny Davis is probably the best 2way besides Chet in this draft. Daniels is intriguing at 6’8” and could still be growing at 19. Plus Davis is another facilitator out there. He’s not just a c&s, but sucks double and triple team when he penetrates. Spurs don’t have that player.

    The question is what does PATFO prioritize on this draft.
    Lloyd Price knows the answer…


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    The more I watch Jovic the more I don't want him at any pick. I don't see what's so good about his game.

    Give me Procida, that guy can play some.
    I forget who, but someone else on this board told us they are in on Jovic at 9. Wild how opinions vary. (for the record, I'm out on him too)

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    Anyone that likes Daniels should take a look at this past season highlights of the G-league Ignite vs Austin Spurs game on YouTube. Primo clearly outplayed Daniels and clearly looked liked the better player by far. If you think Daniels is that good then that means Primo is a future Allstar comparatively. Research and watch the highlights of that game from this past season and let me know your thoughts.

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    I’m starting to warm up to the idea of Jalen Duren. If he truly has franchise player potential, wouldn’t it make sense to draft him? Instead of getting hung up on likely career role players like Dyson Daniels and Jeremy Sochan?

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    I have no idea who we going to pick at 9 and would be happy with a couple of guys though any pick is going to have + and - and will be picked apart on the board should have some lively debates..lol

    As far as 20 and 25 I am Off the Jovic team it's his defense he is terrible fighting through screens and a player like Curry would eat him up for lunch. My cat is probably Wesley/TyTy /Hardy at 20 and Procida at 25 I really starting to like the potential of Procida as he has the height the speed the athleticism to go with a great 3 ball shoot

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    Which ever direction the spurs go I’ll be happy, it’s always a plus to be adding new talent to the team. I just hope we aren’t reaching for another guy in the lottery lol anyone of the guys we’ve all been mentioning would be great just don’t reach for another project that could be had later in the draft

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    Which ever direction the spurs go I’ll be happy, it’s always a plus to be adding new talent to the team. I just hope we aren’t reaching for another guy in the lottery lol anyone of the guys we’ve all been mentioning would be great just don’t reach for another project that could be had later in the draft
    How about Sochan at 9.

    Trade away 20 for a lottery protected future FRP and a foreign player kept over seas at 25, a player kept in Austin at 38.

    This is a real probability for the Spurs draft this year.

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    If Charlotte would not deal their 13 or 15 pick:
    Duren 9
    Jalen Williams 20
    Butler 25
    Procida 38

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    I’m starting to warm up to the idea of Jalen Duren. If he truly has franchise player potential, wouldn’t it make sense to draft him? Instead of getting hung up on likely career role players like Dyson Daniels and Jeremy Sochan?
    Duren would be good at 9, it also may force Charlotte to move one of their picks for Poeltl. Then the Spurs can draft Eason with that pick.

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