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    IF the Spurs are into a center -- whether Duren or Williams -- for now they may be looking at Poeltl starting, new center back-up, with Collins or Landale paired with them.

    We saw Landale and Collins playing together at the end of the season with some success. These sets aren't optimal on defense, but they may have to be what works for now at least in some situations.
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    I hate to always go back to the question on Keldon. Are the Spurs addressing the need to get bigger at the PF position. What would be the order of priority or are they going by the BPA?

    And then there’s the issue on a go-to scorer and a better defender at the point-of-attack.

    I wonder which one’s they prioritize

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    The Spurs shouldn’t go for a PF for the sake of going for a PF, especially if they don’t view those PFs as ceiling raisers or if they can feel they can get a same caliber or better one through other avenues.

    As shiny and exciting an unknown prospect can be, there’s still no guarantee they will become special. And perhaps there are obvious signs when prospects don’t have greatness in them. An org like the Spurs have been around greatness for decades— that kind of thing probably stands out like the sun to them. Maybe they see it in a center or a wing in this draft.

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    Dont give a what position they draft. As long as it makes the team better

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    A 6' shooting guard it is.

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    It's possible that the Spurs get to choose between

    Johnny Davis
    Mathurin
    Sochan
    Griffin
    Eason
    Jalen Williams
    Mark Williams
    Duren
    under the radar pick

    That's the best pool of talent the Spurs have had to choose from in years. I'm liking the odds of getting a solid player more and more as the draft gets closer.
    Can't wait to find out!
    I have a feeling that Davis would be hard to pass up if available. He looks like a future star to me. Jaylen Williams could be a great player, too.

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    The Spurs shouldn’t go for a PF for the sake of going for a PF, especially if they don’t view those PFs as ceiling raisers or if they can feel they can get a same caliber or better one through other avenues.

    As shiny and exciting an unknown prospect can be, there’s still no guarantee they will become special. And perhaps there are obvious signs when prospects don’t have greatness in them. An org like the Spurs have been around greatness for decades— that kind of thing probably stands out like the sun to them. Maybe they see it in a center or a wing in this draft.
    I agree with you in general, and getting the most talented player available makes sense because we aren't very good, but it sure seems like they've been loading up on centers as if it's a priority, bringing in Jock and Zollins in the same year. Our only true power forward might be KBD, if I remember correctly, though I suppose McBuckets could vaguely make that case, but he seems like a 3 to me. I don't see Keldon as a true power forward, either.

    So yes, BPA makes sense, but in the general offseason I hope they find options for a real power forward somehow.

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    I agree with you in general, and getting the most talented player available makes sense because we aren't very good, but it sure seems like they've been loading up on centers as if it's a priority, bringing in Jock and Zollins in the same year. Our only true power forward might be KBD, if I remember correctly, though I suppose McBuckets could vaguely make that case, but he seems like a 3 to me. I don't see Keldon as a true power forward, either.

    So yes, BPA makes sense, but in the general offseason I hope they find options for a real power forward somehow.
    If they go for a C, it means they value their flexibility more which is an understandable position given they are not a playoff team yet. I recall an interview with Buford and Wright and that’s what they said their goal was— to remain flexible and take advantages of opportunities as they come. They may view committing to Poeltl as a long term C as a move that handicaps them too much hence their possible decision to draft a C. They may see our current PFs as acceptable ones for now until they find more “permanent” pieces like Murray. I think if that is the route they go, then they will continue to shuffle the cards every few years (whenever a large contract has/will be given). It’s a smart idea until they find those major pieces. With that in mind, I don’t believe they’re just going to draft MWill because they have to let Poeltl go… if they do it, then they could also see him as a future star.

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    It's possible that the Spurs get to choose between

    Johnny Davis
    Mathurin
    Sochan
    Griffin
    Eason
    Jalen Williams
    Mark Williams
    Duren
    under the radar pick

    That's the best pool of talent the Spurs have had to choose from in years. I'm liking the odds of getting a solid player more and more as the draft gets closer.
    Can't wait to find out!
    I have a feeling that Davis would be hard to pass up if available. He looks like a future star to me. Jaylen Williams could be a great player, too.
    Agreed! I think no matter what the spurs will be able to bring in some really talented guys in this draft. Johnny Davis is my favorite but anyone of those guys would be welcomed

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    To complete the thing about Spurs wanting a Center.
    There we go. Mark Williams at #9 confirmed.

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    If any of those rumors are true then poodle power is doa in sa

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    I dont think they would trade DDR for a pick unless they were sure Lavine was leaving (and still maybe not) and I think they are thinking he will come back. I also would think they would want more then 1 pick. Lavine cant be tradded since he is a FA and only way they would trade him is if he said he was leaving.

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    If any of those rumors are true then poodle power is doa in sa
    Good, move on from him.

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    Good, move on from him.
    Especially before that extension hits

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    There isn’t enough talk about the other Baylor player… I vaguely recall a point during the season where Kendall was more hyped than Sochan and now the table has turned for some reason.

    , I remember at one point all Spurs fans thought we wouldn’t have a shot at Eason and now that he’s been mocked lower, everyone has flipped the script on ever wanting him.

    funny .

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    All this publicized chatter about us taking a C, I don’t know, usually the Spurs don’t leak any of this, so now I’m thinking maybe they aren’t getting a C. Who knows.

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    There isn’t enough talk about the other Baylor player… I vaguely recall a point during the season where Kendall was more hyped than Sochan and now the table has turned for some reason.

    , I remember at one point all Spurs fans thought we wouldn’t have a shot at Eason and now that he’s been mocked lower, everyone has flipped the script on ever wanting him.

    funny .
    Yeah, things change. ing amazing. Kendall Brown is an amazing athlete but didn't show the same grasp of basketball and BBIQ that Sochan did. He's sort of like that super athletic guy from Texas last year. As for wings in that range, I'd look at Wendell Moore first.

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    To complete the thing about Spurs wanting a Center.
    6'4" guard incoming.

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    Try ranking these players in order of potential/BPA by the end of their rookie contract…

    Shaedon Sharpe
    Bennedict Mathurin
    Dyson Daniels
    AJ Griffin
    Johnny Davis
    Malaki Branham
    Blake Wesley
    Jalen Williams
    Jaden Hardy

    Let’s say three of these guys come off the board before the 9th pick.
    Even with that likely scenario, it’s still an absolute minefield tbh.

    It’s one of the reasons I’d be comfortable grabbing Sochan or Duren at #9.

    We may not be drafting BPA in that scenario (though there are schools of thought otherwise), and there is still inherent risk with both players but the outcomes feel more justifiable IMHO, considering the stakes.
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    There we go. Mark Williams at #9 confirmed.
    That would be a reach.

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    No, move him to Charlotte for 13 or 15.
    So we wind up with 9,13,20,25 to play with??? This is about as optimistic a proposal as I have seen. I think I will go to bed with visions of sugar plums dancing in my dreams.

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    Try ranking these players in order of potential/BPA by the end of their rookie contract…

    Shaedon Sharpe
    Bennedict Mathurin
    Dyson Daniels
    AJ Griffin
    Johnny Davis
    Malaki Branham
    Blake Wesley
    Jalen Williams
    Jaden Hardy

    Let’s say three of these guys come off the board before the 9th pick.
    Even with that likely scenario, it’s still an absolute minefield tbh.

    It’s one of the reasons I’d be comfortable grabbing Sochan or Duren at #9.

    We may not be drafting BPA in that scenario (though there are schools of thought otherwise), and there is still inherent risk with both players but the outcomes feel more justifiable IMHO, considering the stakes.
    At some level the draft is crap shoot. I think Ex posted a graph on the odds of getting a player who will make an all star team (we're not even talking perennial or all league etc. just one). Statistically speaking with 9, 20 and 25 the Spurs odds of getting a player who will make at least one all star team is ~ 27%. Yes the odds of a quality starter are probably a lot better- but that is not what this team needs at this time.

    https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what...k-2d113d6b82e5

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    Why would Charlotte trade 13 for Jak when they can just take one of Williams or Duren and have them on a longer and much cheaper Rookie contract.
    They want to win now, because LaMelo isn’t too far from his first FA period.

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    They want to win now, because LaMelo isn’t too far from his first FA period.
    How much will Poeltl be than Williams or Duren? Not much
    If he was so much better then I'm sure Spurstalk would have no interest in a trade.

    Charlotte may consider if they think both will be gone by 13 but not likely if they think they can get one of those centers at 13.

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    How much will Poeltl be than Williams or Duren? Not much
    If he was so much better then I'm sure Spurstalk would have no interest in a trade.

    Charlotte may consider if they think both will be gone by 13 but not likely if they think they can get one of those centers at 13.
    It’s about experience. Jak is and elite screener, he’ll quarterback your defense, and he won’t take shots away from LaMelo. Most young players are looking to make their mark, and that means scoring. Just look at the Ayton situation in Phoenix.

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