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Mark Williams also
Procida Train, all aboard!
Choo choo!
be ready
Mark Williams also
Last edited by duncan2150; 06-13-2022 at 04:27 PM.
I like Procida a lot, I hate the idea of stashing guys tho
I expect your tier 1 to get drafted exactly the way you have them listed.
Starting at pick 8 then there will be unknown what the team will do picks and reaches.
That's why if the Spurs can make a trade to move up just two spots to 7 they can guarantee one of the tier 1 players.
I think he got the wink from Manu. They have to stash a player, no way to bring in 4 rookies
yeah, i'm definitely for procida if he's still around at 25.
I don't even want him stashed. Put him on the roster, get this train rolling. choo choo
I don't even want him stashed. Put him on the roster, get this train rolling. choo choo
I don't think he's willing to be stashed...I also don't think he's still on the board at 20 so it'll be a moot point..
Have Pelton's rankings been posted (for some reason, I can't see certain things lately) or are people looking for them to be? I've got them.
30 Mark Williams Duke C Top 100: No. 26 Stats: No. 53
Consensus: 0.9 WARP
It's easy to see how Williams would fit in an NBA system as a rim protector at one end and rim runner on the other. His projected 60% accuracy on 2-point attempts ranks third among top-100 prospects, while Williams' block rate is above average for a center, as well.
29 Malaki Branham Ohio State SG Top 100: No. 23 Stats: No. 54
Consensus: 0.9 WARP
Branham showed impressive progress within his freshman season, averaging 16.9 PPG after the calendar turned to 2022, up from 6.3 PPG in the 2021 portion of the schedule. His 42.5% 3-point shooting and 83% accuracy from the line portend NBA-caliber floor spacing, though Branham's low steal rate is a question mark.
28 Ochai Agbaji Kansas SG Top 100: No. 13 Stats: No. 70
Consensus: 1.0 WARP
The stats-only projection might undersell Agbaji's improvement as a shooter, having hit 39% of his 6.9 3-point attempts each of the past two seasons. That was matched this year by 77% 3-point shooting. Agbaji also projects as a strong individual perimeter defender, though he generates relatively few steals and blocks.
27 Marcus Bagley Arizona State PF Top 100: NR Stats: No. 19
Consensus: 1.0 WARP
Considered a likely early second-round pick last year, Bagley withdrew his name to return for a second season at Arizona State. In his third game, Bagley suffered a season-ending knee injury. That could lead Bagley to stay in school, which would give him an opportunity to show his 5-of-13 start from 3-point range to 2021-22 was a legitimate step forward.
26 Jabari Walker Colorado PF Top 100: No. 63 Stats: No. 17
Consensus: 1.0 WARP
At 6-foot-8, Walker has the best projected rebound rate among non-centers in this year's top 100. Add in 36% 3-point shooting on 3.2 attempts per game and you've got the makings of a useful NBA player.
25 E.J. Liddell Ohio State PF Top 100: No. 15 Stats: No. 61
Consensus: 1.0 WARP
Liddell has shown strong improvement over the course of his college career, including an unlikely emergence as a premier shot-blocker this season at 6-foot-7. He also hit a career-high 54% of his 2s and 38% of his 3s, showing more than enough skill to stick in the NBA.
24 Keon Ellis Alabama G/F Top 100: No. 45 Stats: No. 21
Consensus: 1.1 WARP
Ellis rates as the Crimson Tide's top prospect ahead of true freshman point guard JD Davison, who didn't crack the top 30. Ellis has a clear NBA role as a 3-and-D wing, having hit 36% of his 3-point attempts in two years at Alabama. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope would represent a better-case scenario for Ellis' development.
23 Blake Wesley Notre Dame SG Top 100: No. 31 Stats: No. 26
Consensus: 1.1 WARP
As a true freshman, Wesley was even more of a volume scorer than Davis, combining 31% usage with a .509 true shooting percentage. His statistical projection is better because he's a year younger and has been a superior playmaker.
22 Johnny Davis Wisconsin SG Top 100: No. 9 Stats: No. 71
Consensus: 1.1 WARP
The lowest-rated player in the top 10 of the draft rankings, Davis has been a volume scorer at Wisconsin. His 32% usage rate this season ranks fourth among players from major conferences, per Stathead.com, but Davis' .526 true shooting percentage was substantially below average. Typically, contested shot making at the NCAA level hasn't translated well against better defenders in the NBA. We'll see if Davis can be an exception to the rule.
21 Hyunjung Lee Davidson SF Top 100: No. 97 Stats: No. 14
Consensus: 1.1 WARP
Bidding to become just the second Korean player in NBA history, Lee stands out with his shooting: 39.5% for his career on a high volume of attempts (5.5 per game in 2020-21 and 6.2 this season).
20 Jacob Gilyard Richmond PG Top 100: NR Stats: No. 13
Consensus: 1.2 WARP
A longtime favorite of my projections because of his off-the-charts steal rate, Gilyard became the NCAA's all-time steals leader in December. It helped that he returned for a fifth year, meaning Gilyard will turn 24 in July. He's also 5-foot-9, so it's easy to see why NBA teams haven't been excited about Gilyard as a prospect. Still, there might be a role for him as a Jose Alvarado-style energizer off the bench.
19 Kendall Brown Baylor SF Top 100: No. 17 Stats: No. 41
Consensus: 1.2 WARP
At 6-foot-8, 205 pounds, Brown has the frame and physical ability NBA teams covet on the wing. He has also hit 39% of his 3s at Baylor, though that has come on just 36 attempts -- and Brown's 70% free throw shooting suggests regression ahead. Brown could help his statistical projection by using his length to force more steals and block more shots.
18 TyTy Washington Jr. Kentucky PG Top 100: No. 11 Stats: No. 50
Consensus: 1.3 WARP
As compared to fellow SEC freshman point guard Kennedy Chandler, Washington wasn't as productive in any category, save avoiding turnovers. Washington believers would point out that he had to make more of an adjustment to playing frequently off the ball alongside veteran point guard Sahvir Wheeler.
17 Christian Braun Kansas SG Top 100: No. 34 Stats: No. 16
Consensus: 1.4 WARP
I wouldn't be surprised to see Braun move up draft boards during the workout process. He's a dangerous shooter on the wing (37.5% from 3-point range in three college seasons) reminiscent of Kevin Huerter, another late riser who ended up going 19th overall.
16 Trevor Keels Duke G/F Top 100: No. 25 Stats: No. 18
Consensus: 1.5 WARP
Shooting will be the swing skill for Keels, who burst on the scene with 25 points against Kentucky in the Champions Classic but topped 20 points just two other times all season. He shot 32% on 3s and just 68% from the foul line, but he's young enough at 18 years old to continue developing.
15 Zach Edey Purdue C Top 100: No. 60 Stats: No. 6
Consensus: 1.6 WARP
The 7-foot-4 Edey averaged a monstrous 30.4 points and 16.2 rebounds per 40 minutes splitting time with Trevion Williams at center while shooting 65.5% from the field. His difficulty defending on the perimeter, however, could limit Edey to a role similar to the one Boban Marjanovic has played in the NBA as a part-time contributor whose value is dependent on finding appropriate matchups.
14 Patrick Baldwin Jr. Milwaukee F Top 100: No. 28 Stats: No. 12
Consensus: 1.6 WARP
Because an ankle injury limited Baldwin to just 11 games at Milwaukee, where he shot 34% from the field, his impressive stats-only ranking is based largely on his performance in the 2019 Nike EYBL. There, Baldwin established himself as a top-five recruit entering college, showing more offensive efficiency and playmaking ability at 6-foot-9.
13 Kennedy Chandler Tennessee PG Top 100: No. 22 Stats: No. 15
Consensus: 1.7 WARP
There's a bit of a drop after the top 12 to the next tier of prospects. Chandler has been productive for a freshman point guard, particularly as a ball hawk. His projected steal rate ranks second behind Tari Eason among prospects in the top 100.
12 Jaden Ivey Purdue G Top 100: No. 4 Stats: No. 39
Consensus: 2.0 WARP
The other top-five prospect who lags statistically, Ivey's weak efficiency as a freshman (.497 true shooting percentage) hurts him here because my models put more weight on early college performance. Ivey does seem like the type of player whose physical ability will be more valuable with better floor spacing in the NBA.
11 Paolo Banchero Duke PF Top 100: No. 3 Stats: No. 51
Consensus: 2.0 WARP
Compared to the other two contenders for the top pick, Banchero doesn't project as well statistically because his efficiency (.551 true shooting percentage) was only average for a college player. Banchero hit 53% of his 2-point attempts and 31% of his 3s, the latter mark one scouts hope will improve based on his 73% foul shooting. Banchero also wasn't as impactful defensively as Chet Holmgren and Jabari Smith, hurting his projection. Still, there are examples of top-three picks with similar statistical projections going on to become NBA stars, most notably Deron Williams and fellow Duke product Jayson Tatum.
10 Jeremy Sochan Baylor PF Top 100: No. 16 Stats: No. 9
Consensus: 2.1 WARP
Sochan has started just one game for the defending champs as a true freshman but done a little of everything off the bench for Baylor. Sochan benefits here from regressing his 29% 3-point shooting to the mean. His poor foul shooting (57.5%) suggests Sochan might continue to struggle in the NBA, meaning he will want to cut his 2.6 attempts per game.
9 Bennedict Mathurin Arizona G/F Top 100: No. 12 Stats: No. 10
Consensus: 2.2 WARP
Mathurin's smooth 3-point stroke and ability to create his own shot make him a top-10 statistical prospect. Just two players in the top 30 of the draft rankings are projected to shoot better from beyond the arc than Mathurin, who hit 42% of his 3s as a true freshman before dipping a bit to 38% this season.
8 Tari Eason LSU F Top 100: No. 14 Stats: No. 5
Consensus: 2.4 WARP
After a modest freshman year at Cincinnati, Eason blossomed into the nation's top sixth man following a transfer to LSU. His low minutes average (24.6 per game) hides how productive Eason has been. He averaged 27.5 points and 3.3 steals per 40 minutes. Eason joins Williamson and Florida State's Chris Singleton as the third player in my database with projected steal and block rates both better than 2.5%.
7 Dyson Daniels G League Ignite G Top 100: No. 10 Stats: No. 7
Consensus: 2.5 WARP
After yielding two of the top seven picks last summer (Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga), this year's group of Ignite prospects isn't considered quite as strong. Daniels, however, joins the top four overall prospects as the fifth player in the top 10 of both our draft rankings and my stats-only projections -- typically a strong indicator of future success. Daniels led the Ignite in my wins above replacement player (WARP) metric during the Showcase season.
6 Jalen Duren Memphis C Top 100: No. 6 Stats: No. 11
Consensus: 2.6 WARP
The youngest prospect in the top 100 (his 19th birthday is in November), Duren was a key part of Memphis' second-half surge with his strong shot-blocking for an NBA-bound center and powerful offensive rebounding. Scouts will hope for the Tigers to beat Boise State in the opening round, setting up a likely matchup against Gonzaga and Chet Holmgren on Saturday in Portland.
5 Walker Kessler Auburn C Top 100: No. 19 Stats: No. 2
Consensus: 2.7 WARP
Jabari Smith's frontcourt mate actually projects better statistically thanks to 73% accuracy on 2-point attempts and the highest projected block rate (more than 8% of opponent 2-point attempts) of any player in my database by a wide margin. Scouts are probably right to wonder whether Kessler can be a big-minutes player in the NBA given his penchant for occasional foul trouble (he fouled out of three games, one in just 12 minutes) and defensive limitations. But Kessler's rim protection, finishing and willingness to hoist 3s (10-of-49 this season) make him an intriguing prospect outside the lottery.
4 AJ Griffin Duke F Top 100: No. 8 Stats: No. 3
Consensus: 2.9 WARP
Despite coming off the bench at the start of the season as he recovered from a knee injury in training camp and averaging a modest 10.4 PPG, Griffin projects as Duke's best prospect on the strength of his 47% 3-point shooting and youth (he won't turn 19 until August). Whether Griffin can hold up as a power forward in the NBA will help determine whether he can live up to this lofty projection.
3 Keegan Murray Iowa PF Top 100: No. 5 Stats: No. 4
Consensus: 3.0 WARP
Murray has climbed draft boards on the strength of a terrific first season as a full-time starter at Iowa, capped by averaging 25.8 PPG on 56% shooting and 9.0 RPG as the Hawkeyes won the Big Ten tournament. And yet he's still not quite as high as in my stats-only projections, resulting in cracking the top three of the consensus model. Murray combines volume and efficiency as a scorer as well as any prospect, and is also a top-tier shot-blocker for a power forward.
2 Jabari Smith Auburn PF Top 100: No. 2 Stats: No. 8
Consensus: 3.3 WARP
From a statistical standpoint, Smith's low 2-point percentage (44%) limits his projection a bit. Per Synergy Sports tracking, Smith made just 60% of his attempts inside 5 feet, as compared to 82.5% for Chet Holmgren. Smith is also fond of long 2-point attempts, which he makes at a decent clip (40%) but are not nearly as valuable as his 43% shooting from beyond the arc. Still, Smith projects well and has time at just 18 years old to improve on those weaknesses.
1 Chet Holmgren Gonzaga PF Top 100: No. 1 Stats: No. 1
Consensus: 4.4 WARP
The most recent one is . . .
1. Holmgren 4.4 WARP
2. Smith 3.3
3. Murray 3
4. Griffin 2.7
5. Daniels 2.7
6. Kessler 2.6
7. Mathurin 2.4
8. Eason 2.2
9. Sochan 2.2
10. Sharpe 2.1
11. Banchero 2.1
12. Ivey 1.9
13. Duren 1.8
14. Chandler 1.6
15. Baldwin Jr. 1.5
16. Braun 1.8 (presumably meant 4)
17. Branham 1.3
18. M. Williams 1.3
19. Keels 1.3
20. Davis 1.1
21. Watson 1.1
22. Wesley 1.1
23. Lee 1.1
24. Procida 1.0
25. Walker 1.0
26. Minott 1.0
27. Terry 1.0
28. Washington Jr. 1.0
29. Gilyard 0.9
30. Liddell 0.9
That’s an interesting list. Makes me think about Dyson Daniels or Tari Eason at 9 even more.
Pelton in 2019:
Bol Bol at 6
Reddish at 5
Culver at 7
Lawson at 9
shamorie who? Ponds at 11
john konchar at 14
in 2020:
Okongwu at 7
Hampton at 8
nesmith at 10
isaiah joe at 11
Malaki flynn at 14
A Who's Who of the most impactful guys in the NBA.
Alright, which one of these guys gets Aaron Rodgers'd?
That's exciting news.
I wasn't sure they would be interested in Wesley. I wonder if it was a solo or in a group workout setting?
They invite too many guys. Should be capped at 14.
This is where teams get to know players who may be available, free agents, available for trade, or go undrafted in the next years. It's why you see so many marginal players get invited to visit teams. You don't get this opportunity to talk to them and learn a bit about who they are.
It's not just about the Draft, my myopic friend.
It's also getting a feel when second contracts, or trades come up.
Oh yeah...
And G-League and two-way stuff also.
That kind of happens also.
It’s also the only opportunity for Pop to teach the next generation about pinot noir and why merlot is overrated.
I cant believe we are less than 10 days away
I'm talking about the green room for the draft broadcast. Too many guys, they're begging to have someone slip to the second so the camera can be up in their face in hopes of tears
Spurs fan pinning alot of hope on that #9 selection
Another tidbit from Barlow that hints at this:
- Jerami Grant continues to be one of the hottest names in trade rumors as he has multiple suitors reaching out to Detroit hoping to strike a deal this offseason after being denied by the Pistons at the trade deadline in February. Detroit has its franchise centerpiece in Cade Cunningham, plus the No. 5 pick in the 2022 draft and cap space, and any deal involving Grant is likely to land the Pistons at least an additional first-round pick, preferably in the lottery.
- Detroit is doing its due diligence and bringing in prospects for workouts as if it is going to have multiple first-round picks.
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