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    The the spurs are shopping a package that includes Lonnie and 20 to teams. Just not worth much tbh.
    They can't shop Lonnie.

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    They can't shop Lonnie.
    I’m being sarcastic. Coby White ain’t worth . Neither is Lonnie

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    Don’t care. With Manu on the staff, if they think Alondes is worthy of a pick in the 20’s then I trust it and would be thrilled.
    Who said that they said that? I just heard that they liked him.

    I think he’s fools gold. He has 4 years of absolute numbers, bounces all over the NCAA, and suddenly blows up in year 5, at age 22? People have compared him to Derrick White, but Derrick did VERY well at UCCS, and only transferred to get more visibility at CU, and play in a better conference.

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    Magic Johnson tweeting level analysis here.
    OK City will have a more talented team than the Spurs after this draft.

    Especially if they are able to move up using that 12 pick to get two top 10 picks.

    They can have four or five studs on the team in a couple of years.
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    That article is pre-lottery. April.

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    I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.
    Chet will sink OK City if they take him. Why take defensive guys with top 10 picks.

    Play to win with strong offense not try to prevent baskets from the other team, it's too easy for good offensive players to score in the NBA.

    That doesn't mean you have players that just give up layups and dunks on the other end but a strong offense is better than keying on defensive players.

    Its not like baseball where great pitching can stop hitting.

    Those top ten picks should be players with the highest offensive ceilings.

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    Chet will sink OK City if they take him. Why take defensive guys with top 10 picks.

    Play to win with strong offense not try to prevent baskets from the other team, it's too easy for good offensive players to score in the NBA.

    That doesn't mean you have players that just give up layups and dunks on the other end but a strong offense is better than keying on defensive players.

    Its not like baseball where great pitching can stop hitting.

    Those top ten picks should be players with the highest offensive ceilings.
    You gonna drop your list of surefire 20ppg scorer's ? I was on team halliburton , so i get it, but this draft is role player heavy. We should take BPA even if its a defender because there just aren't great scoring prospects in the draft

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    You gonna drop your list of surefire 20ppg scorer's ? I was on team halliburton , so i get it, but this draft is role player heavy. We should take BPA even if its a defender because there just aren't great scoring prospects in the draft
    Spurs have to try to move up in the draft and get Murray, Sharpe or Mathurin as those guys have 20+ scoring potential.

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    Chet will sink OK City if they take him. Why take defensive guys with top 10 picks.

    Play to win with strong offense not try to prevent baskets from the other team, it's too easy for good offensive players to score in the NBA.

    That doesn't mean you have players that just give up layups and dunks on the other end but a strong offense is better than keying on defensive players.

    Its not like baseball where great pitching can stop hitting.

    Those top ten picks should be players with the highest offensive ceilings.

    Chet shot 39% from 3, 74% from 2, and averaged 14 ppg as a freshman... I'm not sure why that would categorize him as a "no offense" guy. I'd wager Chet has the potential to be a better piece for a future championship team than Trae Young or Zach LaVine. Chet just camped out on the three point line might have more gravity than Trae playing his full game.

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    Chet shot 39% from 3, 74% from 2, and averaged 14 ppg as a freshman... I'm not sure why that would categorize him as a "no offense" guy. I'd wager Chet has the potential to be a better piece for a future championship team than Trae Young or Zach LaVine. Chet just camped out on the three point line might have more gravity than Trae playing his full game.
    He’s skinny and funny looking, and they don’t understand his game, so they on it. Chet is the Visigoth tribe coming over the hills and entering Rome. The fans and media trashing him are literally identical to the room full of old scouts resisting Billy Bean in moneyball, having no idea what is coming, and that the game is fundamentally shifting and changing. It’s been changing since the rule outlawing fighting through screens in 2015. The traditional big man is nearly extinct, so you need to find the new big man. Chet is it. Duren is it. RW III is it.

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    Give me both Demon Deacs tbh.

    I've been on the Williams bandwagon for a while, and LaRavia is really growing on me. I don't see him being a three in the NBA (just doesn't seem explosive), but he has good ball skills for a PF. While he's always talked about as a defender, most of his highlights are of him scoring. I think he's a sneaky option to fill that defensive perimeter defender with size role that a lot of us have been looking to Eason or Sochan to fill. I don't think he's a shutdown guy, but he's someone who you can platoon on some of the bigger scoring wings (Doncic, Kawhi, Tatum, Giannis) while also being the backbone of a second-unit defense that doesn't currently have a lot of help. Given his shooting, he might be able to be a PJ Tucker with a floor game and should be at worst a more actualized version of KBD.

    I wouldn't mind LaRavia at 20 if the Spurs don't get a forward at 9. Something like Mathurin at 9, LaRavia at 20, Alondes Williams at 25 and Koloko at 38 would be interesting. That's a lot of filled hole and with Primo it's a strong summer-league squad (which is the real point of drafting in the first place).

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    Intel mocks are out at 9 it is between Duren and Dieng at 20 jovic and Wesley. 25 is rumored to be traded. Math Dyson and Sharpe mostly consensus going top 8.

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    That article is pre-lottery. April.
    Yeah, I see that now.

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    Alondes would be undrafted did not look good in the scrimmage. He is not at the same class as Braun or Jalen at those games.

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    Intel mocks are out at 9 it is between Duren and Dieng at 20 jovic and Wesley. 25 is rumored to be traded. Math Dyson and Sharpe mostly consensus going top 8.
    I’m like a boy on Christmas morning with all these new toys, watching all these highlights, and seeing talent deep in the draft. I mean there’s arguement for whoever player depending which direction they take, plus who’s available in trade and free agency. I like Davis because of his 100% play on both sides. Duren is a force in the middle who we’ve been missing, Sochan is seamless fit in what we have right now and will bring that defensive versatility at 4, Dieng is a high risk at 9 but could be high reward (I’d be thrilled at 20), Daniels could be that big defensive SG/SF but a bit redundant especially if Devin takes that leap, Mathurin could fit perfectly besides DJ with his shooting.

    Good problem. But that’s why Wright’s making the big money.

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    Man I’ll be so bummed if Dieng ends up being the pick. Just not a huge fan with his bust potential. But knowing the Spurs there’s a decent chance he’s their guy, especially if they’re swinging for the fences. Seeing him more and more in at 9 in mocks. Hope I’m wrong.



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    Man I’ll be so bummed if Dieng ends up being the pick. Just not a huge fan with his bust potential. But knowing the Spurs there’s a decent chance he’s their guy, especially if they’re swinging for the fences. Seeing him more and more in at 9 in mocks. Hope I’m wrong.


    I've also backed away from Dieng. To me he's a 20's pick and the bust potential is still high at that point. Not very interested.

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    Exactly. With the 20th pick, sure. At that point he’s worth a swing. But not at 9. Just too risky imo. Need a real difference maker with that first pick and somebody without so many question marks.

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    High floor/high ceiling guys go in the first 2-4 picks. After that, you have to either surrender the high ceiling to get a high floor, or accept the low floor for a possible high ceiling.

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    I think Detroit goes nuclear and drafts Jalen Duren at 5

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    I think Detroit goes nuclear and drafts Jalen Duren at 5
    Definitely possible. I can see Detroit going Duren, Indiana going Sochan before Keegan. Wouldn't be surprised at all. I think OKC is hot to trade up to get Sharpe for some ing reason, possibly Portland or NOP.

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    I think Detroit goes nuclear and drafts Jalen Duren at 5
    You don’t think the Drummond comps might make them shy away?

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    Duren on Detroit...that would give me some Ben Wallace thoughts. Arguably different players, but I see Duren somewhat like Wallace until proven otherwise.

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    Duren is most like a baby Dwight Howard to me.

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    I've been on the Williams bandwagon for a while, and LaRavia is really growing on me. I don't see him being a three in the NBA (just doesn't seem explosive), but he has good ball skills for a PF. While he's always talked about as a defender, most of his highlights are of him scoring. I think he's a sneaky option to fill that defensive perimeter defender with size role that a lot of us have been looking to Eason or Sochan to fill. I don't think he's a shutdown guy, but he's someone who you can platoon on some of the bigger scoring wings (Doncic, Kawhi, Tatum, Giannis) while also being the backbone of a second-unit defense that doesn't currently have a lot of help. Given his shooting, he might be able to be a PJ Tucker with a floor game and should be at worst a more actualized version of KBD.

    I wouldn't mind LaRavia at 20 if the Spurs don't get a forward at 9. Something like Mathurin at 9, LaRavia at 20, Alondes Williams at 25 and Koloko at 38 would be interesting. That's a lot of filled hole and with Primo it's a strong summer-league squad (which is the real point of drafting in the first place).
    This is worth considering, especially if we don't get a forward at #9. Perhaps wait on Alondes for #38, and I'd be curious about LaRavia at #25, because there might be another player we could get at #20 that would be helpful. I love Alondes' passing but I'm curious how his lack of shooting will limit him. Obviously, he doesn't seem like a starter, but will he be able to make it in the league. But damn, I love his passing.

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