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So Primo for Sharpe you doing it?
There are alot of outstanding questions about Primo but, Sharpe isn't close to a 'can't miss'. He's a high reward/ high risk player....lots of boom and bust potential there.
So Primo for Sharpe you doing it?
Yup...I have Sharpe as the #7 player in the draft...and yes, I'd trade Primo for #7... but I realize I'm swinging for the fences with Sharpe...if he pans out he could be special but, it's a question if he'll pan out...I'm willing to take that risk because Sharpe has a higher ceiling than Primo with a lower floor...
That's a smart move.
I don't see Sharpe as a bust unless he gets a big injury but that could happen to anyone.
There is enough tape on Sharpe where you can see he has the skills to be an elite scorer.
There is just far more uncertainty if Primo can develop his game into anything special.
While I agree with Primo’s draft last year in hindsight, I can’t do the same with Sharpe. Sure he’s a big risk, high reward and has star quality. But with Murray 2 years away from possible max contract, Keldon likewise getting paid in 2 years, Spurs need to see where they stand, and not role a dice on another project. I like Sharpe’s potential. But that’s all he is right now, a big potential. Admitedly I wouldn’t be too dissappointed with the pick, but right now I’m going for: Davis, Daniels, Mathurin before Sharpe at 9, knowing that I could get an Eason/Sochan later.
With all due respect, what videos are you taking about exactly? The 1-on-1 stuff is highly choreographed, the high school stuff is against, well, high schoolers, etc., etc. The point is he's a mystery even to people who are paid lots of money to evaluate talent, not just those of us here with YouTube access.
You could well be right that he pans out to be awesome, but it wont be because you or anyone here had some advanced analysis of the presently available info out there on him. On swapping Primo: I probably keep Primo, but I'm still high on him unlike most on this board.
I have a better eye for talent than you do if you would rather have Primo. Most GMs would take Sharpe over Primo.
Time will tell and we can revisit this in a couple of years.
Hopefully primo does a big jump this year.
ST Posters would be eating crows
I'm expecting an improvement in Primo. He can eventually reach a level of a solid starter as his ceiling but the Spurs need to add an all star somewhere and another player who is a franchise level player if they want to get back to being contenders again.
If the roster is locked up with a bunch of role player quality starters they will continue being a mid level team.
so are you disappointed in Primo because you don’t think he’s an all-star possibility? I believe the last 12th pick to make the All-Star team was Mookie Blaylock, who was picked in1989. If Primo can become a “solid starter”, as you surmise, then that’s a pretty good outcome.
The PATFO has a real opportunity to make noise with 4 picks, plenty of cap space, and assets for possible trades. It will be telling how savvy Wright is. So far, the Derrick trade, Demar S&T and Thad Young trade all suggest there is hope. For me, I’d be thrilled with: Davis, Eason, Koloko and Procida. If they could sign a FA like LaVine would be a bonus.
Not really. That's his ceiling and his floor can be much worse.
You think you can get a winning team with all solid starters and no all star level players?
but then you’re not really talking about how your expectation of #12 pick is not being met. Rather, you’re talking about overall team construction—which is a different matter than talking about Primo as a disappointment at #12.
so then do you really expect the Spurs to pick an all-star level player at #12? It can be done, but it’s exceedingly rare. So is it really fair to say they failed if they are unable to do that?
Last edited by toki9; 06-08-2022 at 05:06 AM.
Checkmate!
So far yes Primo has been a disappointment after the first year. They failed if Primo cannot reach the level of a solid starter and as of now that is still an unknown.
There are 150 starters in the league. So then would it be fair to say that your expectation of Primo's ceiling is to be among the top 150 players in the league once fully developed--and that at this point in time, you've seen enough to say that Primo will not reach that (assuming full health)?
I'm not very impressed with Primo's skill set for starters so I'm not expecting too much from him.
That's fair. Stripped of hyperboles (or, rather, extreme projections based on your observations as a spectator), you're basically saying that the player the team has picked does not impress you.
Vecenie did a redraft but only did the top 20 and Primo wasn’t in it. He had this to say about him though.
Joshua Primo, San Antonio Spurs | Original Selection: No. 12: I’ve never been as in on Primo as the Spurs were, largely because of some concerns he has in terms of athleticism and frame. His G League minutes showcased some really high-level flashes of positive moments, particularly with his ability to creatively stop and start with ball in hand as a creator, but overall were relatively inefficient and littered with turnover questions. I totally understand the upside and that he was always a project as the youngest player in the draft class. I’d have him in the top 30, but I’m just not as in love with his game as many are, including foremost Primo Prophet and my podcast partner Matt Pennie.
A youngin playing against the best grown men in the world might require a learning curve……. Get a grip people.
Primo had some interesting workout videos in his Instagram story. I’m not sure if they’re still up or if it’s possible to post them here. He was working on the midrange step back. Looked nice tbh
He’s going to be much better this year!
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