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    Yeah I'm pretty confident Jake Fischer pulled that right out of his rectum.
    Makes next to no sense, right. If you move Murray, it's not for a high usage PF that leaves you with no frontcourt scoring threat. Strange .

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    Lol at that John Collins and Dejounte rumour. To me, Collins is actually a negative asset because of his contract. He is an empty stats guy on most teams and not a needle mover for a team like the Spurs, and frankly most teams in the league. The only way he moves the needle in the positive direction is if that team is a piece away from contending and has defense at the 5 and wings to make up for Collins poor defense i.e. if scoring at the 4 spot is the missing piece.

    If the Spurs make this trade centred around Collins for Dejounte, the Hawks will be sending back 3 future 1sts and multiple pick swaps and maybe Huerter as well.

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    Holiday was 30 and was on his final year of contract when he was traded.
    Dejounte is 25 and has one of the most team friendly contracts in the league. 16M, 17M next two years.
    We should be getting more than the Holiday deal.

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    Haven't scrolled through, so maybe this has been mentioned, but the only way this makes sense (and it would dovetail with timvp saying Ivey is the true target) is if it's a 3 way where the principles are Murray and Barnes to the Hawks, Collins and 9 to the Kings, Okongwu, 4 and 16 to the Spurs.

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    I already dislike John Collins. If we were to ever trade Dejounte for him, I’d ing despise him.

    Good thing it’s not happening though.

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    I think this is complete BS But…… DJs value is at an all time high, could be some problems behind the scenes we don’t know about. The Instagram post about Udoka and the person who didn’t believe in him, and the playin game. Him getting into foul trouble early and if he acted poorly in the Lockeroom could have made the spurs start second guessing his long term fit with the team. None the less I can’t see us trading him now.

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    You must not visit other team's sites because this site is the only one who doesn't want Sharpe that I've seen.
    Not the only site. Many are down on him. DeanonDraft's take is a doozy (https://deanondraft.com/2022/06/18/w...y-box-contain/

    From towards the end of his analysis... "even in late round 1 or early round 2 I would rather take a high IQ non-athlete like Trevor Keels over a dunce like Sharpe."

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    You must not visit other team's sites because this site is the only one who doesn't want Sharpe that I've seen.
    No I don’t, cause I couldn’t give a flying crap about other teams. Sharpe is a million dollar talent and a ten cent head.

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    Haven't scrolled through, so maybe this has been mentioned, but the only way this makes sense (and it would dovetail with timvp saying Ivey is the true target) is if it's a 3 way where the principles are Murray, Barnes to the Hawks, Collins and 9 to the Kings, Okongwu, 4 and 16 to the Spurs.
    Yeah that seems more likely than just a 2-team deal between the Hawks and Spurs otherwise the Hawks would be sending the Spurs multiple 1sts and pick swaps can't see the Spurs going into that sort of full rebuild mode.

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    On Sharpe, I haven't watched a ton, but he didn't look supremely quick off the bounce.

    OJ Mayo vibez.

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    Hawks beat writer has backed this up FWIW

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    So the Spurs do this because Dejounte likes street ball and it makes the team so bad they might maybe get a twenty-four percent chance to draft a really tall skinny French guy?
    The spurs do it because of all the other information you left out, like the actual trade.

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    Hawks beat writer has backed this up FWIW
    its all over the place now. Theyve definitely discussed/discussing something

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    its all over the place now. Theyve definitely discussed/discussing something
    Yeah I think it’s being discussed. Too much smoke.

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    Trust can be broken like a spouse that cheats on you. I trust them in player evaluation overall - especially if they are moving up for their guy. But the Primo pick is very questionable. So no, that was not me. He deserves his chance and I said all that matters is that hes good (not that it was a bad value pick) but I hated the pick when it was made due to value. Fine with Primo, not where he was taken though.

    Fine with Dieng. Not at 9.
    You're right, it was Chinook. My bad.

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    Yeah I think it’s being discussed. Too much smoke.
    Nah. Repeating the same crap rumor from the Alex Jones of basketball rumors isn't real.

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    You're right, it was Chinook. My bad.
    No worries!

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    Hawks beat writer has backed this up FWIW
    I’m sure there’s been discussions. There’s a thousand discussions taking place right now between teams leading up to the draft, same as every year.

    But just like with any other trade discussions involving the Spurs, PATFO are likely asking for a King’s ransom in return. If they don’t get what they’re asking for, they hang up the phone. That simple.

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    Not the only site. Many are down on him. DeanonDraft's take is a doozy (https://deanondraft.com/2022/06/18/w...y-box-contain/

    From towards the end of his analysis... "even in late round 1 or early round 2 I would rather take a high IQ non-athlete like Trevor Keels over a dunce like Sharpe."
    Ooooooooouuuccccchhhhhh

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    I’m sure there’s been discussions. There’s a thousand discussions taking place right now between teams leading up to the draft, same as every year.

    But just like with any other trade discussions involving the Spurs, PATFO are likely asking for a King’s ransom in return. If they don’t get what they’re asking for, they hang up the phone. That simple.

    In regards to Dejounte that’s the way they need to approach it

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    timvp get your a** in here!

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    Bit of talk about the Murray-Collins trade from bleacher report, amongst other potential movements around the league.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-murray-trades

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    timvp get your a** in here!
    Lol.

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    Guessing DJ gets move for a three teamer involving Ivey. Tank for that french kid.

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    Haven't scrolled through, so maybe this has been mentioned, but the only way this makes sense (and it would dovetail with timvp saying Ivey is the true target) is if it's a 3 way where the principles are Murray and Barnes to the Hawks, Collins and 9 to the Kings, Okongwu, 4 and 16 to the Spurs.
    Collins getting flipped in some way is the only way I see it playing out too.

    I can see the spurs keeping 9, if they let Murray go. Spurs only make the trade for an offer they can't refuse. I see them getting out like bandits if they trade Murray.

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