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    As I argued a year ago, I am glad SA traded DeRozan. Spurs youth, which I believe(d) in, had 0 value. SA couldn’t trade them for anything of value & also didnt know who might be worth building around IF opportunity presented itself.

    Credit to them for getting value at least Where there was none before.

    I know I will get flamed for this: But I trust SA vision & WHY they did this

    I “trust the process” - I just dont love taking “huge upside, huge meh” package vs getting something a bit more concrete

    But fully aware this could be a slam dunk deal too - can’t argue against that


    I mean, again, I just dont like not getting one guaranteed good asset. Could turn out amazing still so its not that. Not having any protections is risky for ATL (as we just saw with BKY maybe blowing up)

    Hopefully more moves to come (Jak, Doug and Richardson). Get all the picks

    This deal is not awful due to the picks. Getting unprotected picks, while still *likely* to never pan out to top 4 is a great gamble. That part of it I am fine with. But theres not one guaranteed good asset - if this would have had OO in deal I would be ecstatic.

    Tons of work to make this trade any good now. Those picks are likely to be not even lottery so to get no cap space extra, no young player and only some mid picks as it stands now? I dont get it fully, even if I do get the overarching strategy

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    Lol, you guys.
    So emotional.
    My sweet girls.

    Love to all of you in this time of pain.

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    If OKC can tank while still holding on to SGA no way the Spurs couldn't have with Murray still on the team. Could have dumped Poetl and Keldon and probably gotten three picks between the two of them.
    Exactly. Preach on brother bum, preach on.

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    Seriously...some of y'all need to put the curtain rods away.

    This team had two directions....rebuild or stay a treadmill team. The front-office can't just work miracles and turn Dejounte Murray into Kevin Durant or some like that.

    For those who wanted a tank, you got.

    For those who were expecting miracles...well, sometimes life is disappointing. Not sure what to tell you.

    The days of Tim/Tony/Manu are gone. This group wasn't going to bring us back to relevance, so there is no sense in grasping to it.

    So long, Murray. So long, Walker. It's going to be a long road...but this is how you improve IN THE LONG RUN. Maybe I'm just coping, but I'm also all for it.

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    the Spurs didn't get 3 unprotected firsts
    2 when Murray is off contract.

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    Damn BUM, Im surprised your this upset at this trade. It’s a ing haul. I love DJ like everyone, but this team is not close. We are selling super ing high right now.
    It's two crap first round picks and another pick that's probably an even money bet at becoming two seconds in 2026 since it depends on Charlotte making the playoffs.

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    It’s a hard day for Spurs nation, wonder what the next steps are for the vets and free agency

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    No reason to trade Johnson, who's only 23 (though his worst habits will be further accentuated now). He's worth more to them for the time being than his probably worth around the league, especially with more picks likely to come for Poeltl and Richardson.

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    Time to see if you can get a couple of picks for Poetl now. I mean what the is the point of keeping any vet now when they just dumped their 25 year old allstar?

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    It hurts knowing DJM won’t be on the team next year, but happy for him going to a contender. I can still enjoy his talents and watching him with Trae Young.

    So I assume the 2026 swap is unprotected too? If that’s the case, this trade makes a lot of sense. There’s a lot of emotion because we all love DJM, and we won’t see the full payoff until 2027 (and beyond since rookies need to develop).

    I agree we’d be in purgatory with DJM keeping our heads above water. At worst, this trade kicks mediocrity down the line if we keep getting mid to late firsts. At best, this could rocket us back into contention for multiple years. Not to mention Wembanyama sweepstakes.

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    �� Trey Jones and J. Primo are the PGs now or for now? Or will they go after Colin Sexton in the Land?

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    🤔 Trey Jones and J. Primo are the PGs now or for now? Or will they go after Colin Sexton in the Land?

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    Great trade tbh. Hawks are going full Lakers for the next 5 years and those picks will be gold.

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    ing timvp changing the edit rules along with these ty slovenian servers
    If OKC can tank while still holding on to SGA no way the Spurs couldn't have with Murray still on the team. Could have dumped Poetl and Keldon and probably gotten three picks between the two of them.
    Yet I would propose we learned off OKC in this instance. Despite where you rank SGA vs DJ, it becomes exponentially harder to move a contract of that size and capture the type of assets both we and OKC are interested in at this phase of evolution of the franchise. I quite think we made a smart decision and with how we just parlayed 3 top 20 picks out of this draft, I suspect we are going to be loaded with talent here in the next 2-3 years.

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    Amazing move. Atlanta will be way worse than expected imo.

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    樂 Trey Jones and J. Primo are the PGs now or for now? Or will they go after Colin Sexton in the Land?
    Branham and Wesley are primary ball handlers, this team sees a lot of potential so we selling high and roll for a top 4 pick next year to land a franchise pick.

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    Three crappy picks, one of which is a probably an even bet to become two second round picks thanks to heavy protections (the Charlotte pick). And the other two are Atlanta picks that'll be in the 20s probably. I'd rather have one Dejounte Murray than three Keldon Johnsons, and a Keldon Johnson like player is of the best things one could hope for with a pick in the 20s. this team, this move is re ed as .
    I’d bet on Clifford getting that team into the playoffs multiple times in the 3 year window. Best coach in their new franchise history.

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    You realize it's only a 14% chance to get tall skinny French guy even if you're the worst team in the league, right?
    What's the odds of the worst team in the league getting a top 5 pick in the draft?

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    Sugus you havent posted in forever and that’s what you decided to post? Come on, man. I’m not nearly as attached as you think nor do I put too much effort into complaining about an outcome that’s out of my control.

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    You realize it's only a 14% chance to get tall skinny French guy even if you're the worst team in the league, right?
    Yes. I also realized that it is better than the 4.xxx% chance we would've had with another mediocre play-in season, tbh.

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    the Spurs didn't get 3 unprotected firsts
    You don't even comprehend the trade and you are ting on it.

    Dear God.

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    Great trade tbh. Hawks are going full Lakers for the next 5 years and those picks will be gold.
    I think they should sniff around on Sexton just for the "reclamation asset" potential.

    Otherwise time to get whatever we can for Jakob. The team missed an opportunity at the deadline when his value was highest. Calling TOR, CHA, and CHI right now.

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    Going to wait awhile and process it all before commenting on this one.
    ‘That being said, I truly believe the best of DJ may be yet to come and the Aldridge/DDR Trudge looks even more painful in hindsight…

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    Just move the ing team already. What a moronic trade.

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    �� Trey Jones and J. Primo are the PGs now or for now? Or will they go after Colin Sexton in the Land?
    If not him, then possibly Maledon (Thunder are way over roster limit, so he might be a casualty) or Aaron Holiday. Maybe they'd consider Graham depending on how much draft capital the Pelicans are willing to attach.

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