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I can certainly agree with this, but can also agree to watch what we do with the guys we have and go from there.
So if this team jettisons the last of the vets that have talent...
They're trying to win a 'chip?
No.
They're tanking and developing with what they have.
Your know-it-all at ude is silly.
I get that Pop does not tank, but the GM can certainly set the team up to do so.
I can certainly agree with this, but can also agree to watch what we do with the guys we have and go from there.
Exactly. We're discussing semantics. No one here that says we're tanking (or wants us to) is calling for Pop to order players NOT to win... that's STUPID. There are teams that also go as far as to pull starters due to fake injuries, mess with rotations, and so on and so forth. That's SHAMELESS tanking. But you can also go trade your veterans for younger assets that need developing, which will cost you in the sort term. Is that tanking? Is it not? Well... let's put it this way: we're taking a loss in the short term, to be able to reap the benefits in the long term. That's what many of us call far. That's the way no one in the league debates, other than many some stubborn Spurs fans, and some spoiled Lakers fans. No one here advocates for a Philly like "process", or an OKC style tank, but for a recognition of the state of things, and acting upon it, which the FO seems to have done at last. Had it happened sooner, we'd be way past that and on route to contending again. Postponing the inevitable just drags the agony.
They'll have to sign someone(maybe 2)...there's plenty of time for that...
I’d prefer they trade Poeltl now in case he gets hurt or regresses, he has enough value to get something decent now. Josh Richardson is probably not as desirable until the deadline.
While still early and I understand what the plan at least seems to be it also looks like they aren't really doing anything to prove the team either and I think that's where people get annoyed confused whatever. You may not intentionally lose but are you doing your best to win? Very fine line.
Saying the Spurs have done it “at last” is still premature
the moves of letting go DJ and Lonnie mirror the moves the offseason before that
they nearly matched last year’s win / loss record.
Let’s see what the rest of the moves are before we start claiming we know the direction the team is taking
the mindset could, after all, be the same as last offseason and that is to pave way to develop the next man up
folks are so sure the FO has blown it all up but some argue DeMar is/was a better player than DJ. If that is the case, then why weren’t people screaming the last year that the Spurs were tanking and that they were put in a position by the FO to fail?
The answer to that is the Spurs believed their youth could perform as good or better than the team with DeMar, Mills, Gay.
and my stance (as of now) is that the Spurs believe their youth behind Murray could perform as good or better than when it was led by Murray.
Wright flat out said it: he’s focused on now and the future.
Bottom line is that the Spurs have yet to do anything different from the offseason before this one and there is nothing yet to conclude about what they plan for this upcoming season.
people are afraid to say anything is “TO BE DETERMINED” or unknown. But sometimes, that is the case and it is better than pretending to know.
They are obviously ac ulating assets while prioritizing youth with the understanding they will lose games. Call it what you want. They will not ever give it a cool name like The Process or whatever. I suppose "rebuilding" is the closest they will call it. And I can see the distinction that they are trying to simultaneously rebuild the team while not develop a culture of losing. But I have to wonder: isn't that what most tanking teams tell their fans?
I just watch Rise in Disney, the story of Greek Freak. Man that 2013 draft was terrible. 6 players before Giannis are probably no konger playing. Who the is Shabazz Muhammad?
Indications so far this off season do point to the Spurs not desiring to put out a compe ive team good enough to not be the worst or one of the worst in the league.
They won't have an all star on the roster. They'll have the youngest team in the league with 19 year olds getting minutes.
Roster construction is indicating they are tanking this season regardless of what Wright is saying.
Who said Pop doesn’t tank? He tanked in ‘96 and get Duncan.
1. Last vets haven't been jettisoned yet.
2. Even if they are, the team is likely not tanking.
3. Tanking means losing on purpose.
4. Like, literally, tanking means losing on purpose.
5. Also, tanking means losing on purpose.
6. I want to tell you think one more time: Tanking means losing on purpose.
Seriously, you smarmy little dip s need to realize words have meanings. You can't redefine 'tanking' as 'winning mutiple championships' and then say the Duncan era was a tanking era.
And no, there's no disconnect between the front office and Popovich. That's just blatantly stupid.
At this stage of Pop's career, he has no interest in tanking.
At the beginning, Yes!
Set yourself up for a ton of years of success.
He doesn't have a ton of years any longer.
Do you recognize the word "IF"?
Seriously, you just go off on your little tangent without reading and recognizing.
Only #1 Bennett and #14 Muhammed didn't play last year..I just watch Rise in Disney, the story of Greek Freak. Man that 2013 draft was terrible
Spurs set a then NBA record of 270+ Player games missed. David had his sports hernia from overextending himself playing 3 Olympics in a row. He came back for like 8-9 games, and then broke his foot. Sean missed half a season. Avery missed half a season, but came back, and started leading us to wins. We only had the 6th worst record, but go on about it being a tank. That’s some Laker fan bull .
They tanked the last few weeks of the season.
The season was lost by that time so no point in winning meaningless games by playing Robinson who was cleared to play, with Duncan in next year's draft.
Only Spur homers won't accept that the Spurs tanked down the stretch that year to better their chances at Duncan.
No, Spurs had the third worst record at 20-62.
We're not tanking. Pop doesn't tank.
Why are you freaking out about not tanking? Is your iden y so built up in this 14% chance for a tall skinny French guy? Why are you so hideously, teeth-gnashingly offended to hear that we're not tanking? Maybe you should be a Thunder fan.
I don't believe the evidence supports this. That team was riddled with legit injuries. If Pop held Robinson out from returning for the last handful of games, it was no different than when he held Duncan out after his injury in year 3. And it's not like Robinson was ever the same player post injury anyways.
Freaking Dominique Wilkins was the leading scorer. Not only did the Spurs not trade him away or cut him so he could go to a contender, they kept playing him when he was healthy as an elderly man. be played 34 minutes in game 82, a 4 point loss. Going into that game Denver's season was already over at 21 wins and like the 4th worst record. Spurs had 20 wins and could have screwed themselves by winning and splitting balls with Denver.
Pop played his guys. , Houston really played their guys, Barkley, Drexler and Olajuwon played 39, 41, and 36 minutes.
I wasn’t old enough to watch the 96 season lol but didn’t the spurs bring in Dominque Wilkins that year? His prime was over but I bet he brought people to the arena at the very least
You don't read.
Forget you.
I already said Pop doesn't tank.
You don't read.
With David being hurt so much that year they weren’t going anywhere. If you think those extended injuries by other players weren’t milked, then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . I supported that, rooted for them anyway and consequently not for the Lakers that year or any other. And yeah, the balls gave them a better return than expected. This year they won’t have to milk injuries, they’ll be evaluating young talent, team building and more than likely picking in the lottery next year. I’m more excited to watch this year than I have been in years no matter what you call that. Go Spurs Go.
The Spurs must be working on an extension with Poeltl as we speak surely. Maybe he hasn't signed anything because he doesn't like the offer. I think Poeltl on a 3/$45m contract has more value than with his current remaining deal of 1/$9.4m.
He's going to want closer to 20 per I'm sure.
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