Game Thread: Summer League Game 1 - Spurs at Cavs -July 8th, 2022 @ 4 PM CT

[cd98]

Not having Sochan hurt a lot. There was no D inside and poor rebounding. A little bit of that would have changed the game a lot.

[Mr. Body]

Don't really care about the results, but hopefully more competetive next game.

1. Cleveland looked really well-drilled, pulling traps and using length and team shape very well on defense, like they've been playing for a while.

2. Really needed Sochan this game. He would have made an impact on boards and interior defense.

3. Primo as a point is troubling because of a lack of quickness and execution on his passes. He is a much better ball handler than he was a year ago. He does have good vision and processing, the results aren't always there yet.

4. Primo's natural position is a s a 2/3 and secondary ball-handler. When he feels settled his shot is great and he's crafty.

5. Wesley's horizontal speed is a problem for defenses and he was hitting from outside tonight. If he can fix his shot, that'd be great. One of the beefs on him was a real lack of finishing around the rim, where he's terrible. If there's more than one guy, he gets swatted. I'm not sure how to fix this.

6. Branham settled in as the game went on. He worked hard on defense and was unselfish. Later on we saw flashes of his buttery midrange. His range isn't the best and he'll need to learn how to get around against better defenses. This isn't really the setting for him.

7. Barlow I like. He worked hard and did some good things. I don't expect much from him, but deserves a chance to make the team.

Onto the next one.

[GAustex]

Lol………good ol’ spurs talk

Miss Cleo your boy will be third rounder in next years draft

[Rito3d30]

Spurs

STARTERS	MIN	FG	3PT	FT	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
D. Barlow F	21	3-5	0-0	3-4	3	4	7	0	1	0	0	6	-3	9
R. Woodard II F	14	1-7	0-3	0-0	1	4	5	0	0	0	1	0	-10	2
J. Primo G	29	7-12	5-7	1-2	0	0	0	5	0	1	3	1	-7	20
B. Wesley G	30	7-16	3-4	3-4	0	2	2	6	1	0	3	2	-9	20
M. Branham G	28	6-15	2-6	1-1	1	2	3	0	0	0	0	2	-25	15
BENCH	MIN	FG	3PT	FT	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
J. Carlton C	8	1-3	0-0	0-0	1	0	1	0	0	1	0	1	-5	2
D. Days F	19	5-7	1-3	0-0	3	4	7	0	0	0	1	4	-8	11
J. Hall G	16	1-4	1-4	1-2	1	3	4	2	0	1	2	2	+2	4
D.J. Stewart Jr. F	22	3-4	1-1	0-0	0	4	4	5	0	0	1	2	+21	7
J. DeLaurier C	10	0-1	0-0	0-0	1	2	3	0	0	0	1	1	-1	0
J. Sochan F	Has not entered game
K. Edwards G	2	0-1	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
S. Stefanovic G	Has not entered game
A. Polite G	Has not entered game
D. Mahoney G	Has not entered game
K. Bowman G	Has not entered game
J. Wieskamp SF	Has not entered game
TEAM		34-75	13-28	9-13	11	25	36	18	2	3	12	21		90
		44.6%	44.4%	69.2%

+21 from Stewart.....That's some Bonner level +-King right there

[KingKev]

The end result is moot. Wesley, Branham and Primo looked promising. Primo is not a PG.

[exstatic]

Wes is win win because he either hacks away at it this season till he crystalizes into a budget Ivey Morant lol or you ride his tank to a #1 23 FRP if he busts and fails.

All at #25 which is very advantageous positioning to take a swing from a risk reward balance perspective.

His numbers were almost identical to freshman Ivey.

[Atl Spur]

Miss Cleo your boy will be third rounder in next years draft

You need some attention? I’m all ears

[GB20]

I loved the way Primo finished the fourth quarter.

[BatManu20]

Not Worried about Branham tbh. I actually think he’ll fare better in NBA games where there’s more structure and it’s not a wild pickup game. And he had 3 or 4 misses today that rimmed out. Overall I think he’ll be fine.

[GAustex]

14 and 22 lot promising
We really made Primo a lotto pick?

[BatManu20]

And to parrot what most people here are saying, Primo is not a PG. He needs to be a lead scoring guard in SL and secondary ball-handler. His last 5 minutes of the game looked so much better than the rest. Hopefully he comes out aggressive on Sunday.

[spurraider21]

Don't really care about the results, but hopefully more competetive next game.

1. Cleveland looked really well-drilled, pulling traps and using length and team shape very well on defense, like they've been playing for a while.

2. Really needed Sochan this game. He would have made an impact on boards and interior defense.

3. Primo as a point is troubling because of a lack of quickness and execution on his passes. He is a much better ball handler than he was a year ago. He does have good vision and processing, the results aren't always there yet.

4. Primo's natural position is a s a 2/3 and secondary ball-handler. When he feels settled his shot is great and he's crafty.

5. Wesley's horizontal speed is a problem for defenses and he was hitting from outside tonight. If he can fix his shot, that'd be great. One of the beefs on him was a real lack of finishing around the rim, where he's terrible. If there's more than one guy, he gets swatted. I'm not sure how to fix this.

6. Branham settled in as the game went on. He worked hard on defense and was unselfish. Later on we saw flashes of his buttery midrange. His range isn't the best and he'll need to learn how to get around against better defenses. This isn't really the setting for him.

7. Barlow I like. He worked hard and did some good things. I don't expect much from him, but deserves a chance to make the team.

Onto the next one.

agree with just about all of this. except i dont see primo as even a part time 3 given his weight/bulk. but he does look the part of a scorer and like you said, secondary playmaker. as long as he doesnt get shoe-horned into a point guard role, there's something there for sure. he also just didnt seem quick enough on defense to match up with 1's.

i think wesley would benefit a ton from the g-league mostly to work on his interior scoring. there were some drive-and-kick flashes as well, and that could become an exciting aspect to his game.

[Kurik]

I’m so used to Spurs players being scared to shoot in their first game so I’m happy with the results by the end of the game.

[Mnky]

im relying on timvp's reporting that the spurs already view Primo as the starting point guard of the future

Wasn't specific to you, there are plenty of posts about him not being a PG from people who love to criticize him without merit.

I'm not saying he will be or should be the PG, but making PG evaluations on a summer league game with people playing for their careers and running no sets is pretty ridiculous. Not to mention, he didn't play that role tonight. Which is kind of a big part of evaluating someone in a role.

People just love to hate on him.

[Atl Spur]

Primo game has grown…..some advanced moves! In my just a thought post I clearly stated have BEN as your primary ball handler. Primo is nice, haters your chance/time to load the bus is dwindling down. That’s all

[offset formation]

"He's...just not a pg is what I meant to say.."

Blake has been the 1 the whole game and the primo haters still moving goal posts.

That 8 point barrage by Primo is the best any player has looked in this game.

BS. Pay closer attention. Wesley played off ball just as Primo did. They also both played as PG and SG too.

And what precisely did you see that showed Primo to be a competent PG? He still cannot consistently break down a defense. His points came almost entirely from distance either on step backs or passes to the wings.

He's a ing wing (2 or 3).

That said, Wesley is a better PG and played more there than off ball.

[John B]

Don't really care about the results, but hopefully more competetive next game.

1. Cleveland looked really well-drilled, pulling traps and using length and team shape very well on defense, like they've been playing for a while.

2. Really needed Sochan this game. He would have made an impact on boards and interior defense.

3. Primo as a point is troubling because of a lack of quickness and execution on his passes. He is a much better ball handler than he was a year ago. He does have good vision and processing, the results aren't always there yet.

4. Primo's natural position is a s a 2/3 and secondary ball-handler. When he feels settled his shot is great and he's crafty.

5. Wesley's horizontal speed is a problem for defenses and he was hitting from outside tonight. If he can fix his shot, that'd be great. One of the beefs on him was a real lack of finishing around the rim, where he's terrible. If there's more than one guy, he gets swatted. I'm not sure how to fix this.

6. Branham settled in as the game went on. He worked hard on defense and was unselfish. Later on we saw flashes of his buttery midrange. His range isn't the best and he'll need to learn how to get around against better defenses. This isn't really the setting for him.

7. Barlow I like. He worked hard and did some good things. I don't expect much from him, but deserves a chance to make the team.

Onto the next one.

Nice assessment

Blake is still very raw out there. He needs refining at Austin. But very quick and gets to the basket at will, and tremendous motor. Once he gets it together, watch out.

Malaki, yes he started heating up as the game progresses. Once the games are set for him, he'll start shooting those c&s money.

Primo, he lets the game get to him, no rushes. Comes 4th quarter, 11 pts. I'm not worried.

Barlow, I like his big body working hard in the post, hustle guy.

It's just 1st game. I expect to get better as they start knowing each other's game.

[heyheymymy]

That 15 - 1 run in the 2nd q was good tape to study in the filmroom. Not as flukey, felt like things were clicking and moving around pretty well.

This game also cements the vision of the draft for the latter 2 picks, they seem to come as advertised.

The flashes from key projects was promising and will be fun to watch develop even over a tank.

Wes is like unbridled lightning, and I hope pop has the jar. That supernova flourish at the end of the 4th from primo demonstrates the delayed reward for our patience that lies in wait. Bran has some potential. Want to see more from Barlow.

Would be awesome to turn Wes/Primo/Bran into a 3 headed terror off the bench.

[spurraider21]

Not Worried about Branham tbh. I actually think he’ll fare better in NBA games where there’s more structure and it’s not a wild pickup game. And he had 3 or 4 misses today that rimmed out. Overall I think he’ll be fine.

he looked really uncomfortable/unsure of himself in the first half. once he settled down he just looked like a natural bucket-better if nothing else. looked ok on defense but wasnt necessarily tested much on that end

[tim_duncan_fan]

Blake WesGod

Not Worried about Branham tbh. I actually think he’ll fare better in NBA games where there’s more structure and it’s not a wild pickup game. And he had 3 or 4 misses today that rimmed out. Overall I think he’ll be fine.

Me either. There were a couple of difficult shots he made and it didn't look flukey. Like someone said already, with some structure, he'll pop.

[ace3g]

[Atl Spur]

BS. Pay closer attention. Wesley played off ball just as Primo did. They also both played as PG and SG too.

And what precisely did you see that showed Primo to be a competent PG? He still cannot consistently break down a defense. His points came almost entirely from distance either on step backs or passes to the wings.

He's a ing wing (2 or 3).

That said, Wesley is a better PG and played more there than off ball.

So you think Wesley is better than primo? Bro put down the pipe or have someone teach you basketball

[Ditty]

At least it looks like Primo can shoot again. He will be fine. You are crazy if you can’t see the talent.

[Dejounte]

So everything I said about Wes, Primo, and Branham before the game looks accurate

[rascal]

he looked really uncomfortable/unsure of himself in the first half. once he settled down he just looked like a natural bucket-better if nothing else. looked ok on defense but wasnt necessarily tested much on that end

Probably was nervous in the first half being his first game. Settled down in the second half.

Nerves will effect some guys more than others, Branham seems more the type to be effected by nerves moreso than Wesley.