The Penthouse Of Josh Primo

[KingKev]

^ the reality is Jak, Keldon and Vassell probably look worse next year unless they are really adding to their game this off-season.

Those guys aren’t going to make Primo look better he doesn’t when he isn’t standing out against borderline talent as it is.

[rjv]

^ the reality is Jak, Keldon and Vassell probably look worse next year unless they are really adding to their game this off-season.

Those guys aren’t going to make Primo look better he doesn’t when he isn’t standing out against borderline talent as it is.

i think you're missing the point, although jakob is great at setting high screens. just go back and look at the times that primo had no one come up and set a pick for him up top. there were also numerous occasions when no one was even camped out in the right corner for a shot. they weren't even running sets and there was no motion. regardless of whether or not vassell and keldon improve significantly or not (i do expect them to be better) is moot. the point was the primo would benefit from any kind of offensive scheme. but, as i mentioned, what the lack of an offense did reveal was primo's lack of athleticism and decisiveness, which are bad traits for a PG. blake, as green as he is, was able to make lemonade out of lemons because of his quick first step and lack of hesitancy to either drive or shoot.

[B1gduff]

Aaahh the cycle onces again starts. First, it was White, than Murray, then Walker, then Johnosn, and now its Primo.

[Ariel]

Honestly, I think those that overrate him will end up doing him much more damage than those of us who are much lower on him. Forcing him to play in a way he's incapable of will end up destroying his confidence, and he won't even develop into what he can be, which is IMO a rotational wing with adequate shooting and (secondary) playmaking skills. He was a horrible lottery pick, that ship has sailed, but he can still be a viable NBA player, and it's the delusions of the Atl Spur of the world that may end up preventing him from that by demanding too much of him and setting him up to fail.

[DAF86]

If this guy doesn't turn out to, at least, be a rotation player, Wright has some serious explaining to do. If you are going to use your best draft position in years (at that time) on a guy that could have been had on the second round, that player better show something.

[Atl Spur]

Honestly, I think those that overrate him will end up doing him much more damage than those of us who are much lower on him. Forcing him to play in a way he's incapable of will end up destroying his confidence, and he won't even develop into what he can be, which is IMO a rotational wing with adequate shooting and (secondary) playmaking skills. He was a horrible lottery pick, that ship has sailed, but he can still be a viable NBA player, and it's the delusions of the Atl Spur of the world that may end up preventing him from that by demanding too much of him and setting him up to fail.

Do you hear yourself clown? This is a fan message board quit trying so hard to fit in with these dumb takes.

[Atl Spur]

If this guy doesn't turn out to, at least, be a rotation player, Wright has some serious explaining to do. If you are going to use your best draft position in years (at that time) on a guy that could have been had on the second round, that player better show something.

A simple google search would inform you this pick ( #12 )hasn’t produced the amount of high quality level players you seem to think it has The odds are actually against it being successful! And because we have such an inept front office/organization, why do we expect to buck the odds? Can’t have it both ways…..

[Ariel]

Do you hear yourself clown? This is a fan message board quit trying so hard to fit in with these dumb takes.

It's a SPURS fans message board, not a Primo message board, you !d!ot. I have yet to read any intelligent take from you that brings some substance to your assertions. Either you don't have one, or you're too dumb to put them into words. Whichever the case, you're the resident clown here.

[R. DeMurre]

Honestly, I think those that overrate him will end up doing him much more damage than those of us who are much lower on him. Forcing him to play in a way he's incapable of will end up destroying his confidence, and he won't even develop into what he can be, which is IMO a rotational wing with adequate shooting and (secondary) playmaking skills. He was a horrible lottery pick, that ship has sailed, but he can still be a viable NBA player, and it's the delusions of the Atl Spur of the world that may end up preventing him from that by demanding too much of him and setting him up to fail.

When the Spurs had Primo take up PG duties in the G League, it made perfect sense to me-- because assist-to-turnover ratio was one of his glaring areas of concern. It seemed like a good way to generally improve his handle and decision-making abilities. But I assumed early he'd return to being a SG in the NBA and be (long term) a very secondary ball handler at best. I still wonder if the idea of him as a future PG is a complete fabrication of internet GMs who floated it along with other silly concepts like Harden & Doncic comps.

[Atl Spur]

It's a SPURS fans message board, not a Primo message board, you !d!ot. I have yet to read any intelligent take from you that brings some substance to your assertions. Either you don't have one, or you're too dumb to put them into words. Whichever the case, you're the resident clown here.

Are you done entertaining? Comprehension isn’t a strength of yours I see Take time and read for understanding…..

[DAF86]

A simple google search would inform you this pick ( #12 )hasn’t produced the amount of high quality level players you seem to think it has The odds are actually against it being successful! And because we have such an inept front office/organization, why do we expect to buck the odds? Can’t have it both ways…..

That has nothing to do with what I said. The issue here isn't if #12 picks are succesful or not. The issue is wasting a lottery pick on a player you most likely could have got in the second round. There was no reason for the Spurs to use #12 on a guy nobody else was going to snatch from you before you had a second go at the draft.

[Atl Spur]

When the Spurs had Primo take up PG duties in the G League, it made perfect sense to me-- because assist-to-turnover ratio was one of his glaring areas of concern. It seemed like a good way to generally improve his handle and decision-making abilities. But I assumed early he'd return to being a SG in the NBA and be (long term) a very secondary ball handler at best. I still wonder if the idea of him as a future PG is a complete fabrication of internet GMs who floated it along with other silly concepts like Harden & Doncic comps.

Ding ding…… Primo clearly said in the interview this team will have many ball handlers, he never said he was the new PG! This pg thing is a red herring so we don’t speak of his skills improvements most said he didn’t currently exhibit ( shooting / ball handling ).

[Atl Spur]

That has nothing to do with what I said. The issue here isn't if #12 picks are succesful or not. The issue is wasting a lottery pick on a player you most likely could have got in the second round. There was no reason for the Spurs to use #12 on a guy nobody else was going to snatch from you before you had a second go at the draft.

So, you know better than the organization now? Got it! You have all the intel / scouting comps etc…. Got it! Take several seats

[JeffDuncan]

. I still wonder if the idea of [Primo] as a future PG is a complete fabrication of internet GMs ...

On the night Primo was drafted Wright said the Spurs envisioned him playing point guard “SOMETIMES.” They viewed him as a combo type.

There are posters here who only ever caught the “point guard” phrase and they have, as usual, gone bat insane about it.

As far as I know, the Spurs view is still the same. A combo, who might play point SOMETIMES.

[DAF86]

So, you know better than the organization now? Got it! You have all the intel / scouting comps etc…. Got it! Take several seats

It doesn't take much intel to know no other team was drafting Primo in the first round, tbh.

[Atl Spur]

It doesn't take much intel to know no other team was drafting Primo in the first round, tbh.

Please go back to doing YOUR job and not PATFO’S that’s all…..

[DAF86]

Please go back to doing YOUR job and not PATFO’S that’s all…..

I can do both, tbh.

[Atl Spur]

I can do both, tbh.

Just admit that was a dumb statement so we can move on Show that humility we know you have in there somewhere��

[DAF86]

Just admit that was a dumb statement so we can move on Show that humility we know you have in there somewhere��

Which one, the one saying Primo would most likely not be picked in the first round if not for the Spurs? That's not dumb, that's an educated guess most folks around the World would agree on.

Dude, you need a little more self awareness before starting to throw the word "dumb" at other people.

[Atl Spur]

Which one, the one saying Primo would most likely not be picked in the first round if not for the Spurs? That's not dumb, that's an educated guess most folks around the World would agree on.

Dude, you need a little more self awareness before starting to throw the word "dumb" at other people.

Your hypothesis led you to this conclusion? Got it! ( of course that validates the take ) Again I ask, you are plugged in more than the organization? I never called you dumb homie, I said that was a dumb statement There’s a difference….

[GAustex]

Are you done entertaining? Comprehension isn’t a strength of yours I see Take time and read for understanding…..

Miss Cleo
Rather than mystical fore sights that so far have not come close to fruition
Try living in the real world
You are clownish in your misguided forethoughts

[JeffDuncan]

... The issue is wasting a lottery pick on a player you most likely could have got in the second round. There was no reason for the Spurs to use #12 on a guy nobody else was going to snatch from you before you had a second go at the draft.

Yes, that’s a valid point. So, looking back at that draft, who did the Spurs miss out on, when they took Primo?

People will instantly think Sengun, I suppose. He played a lot and had some decent stats on a team that tanked. 20 wins. Looks like basically empty stats on a lousy team. Be that as it may, I don’t think the Spurs missed out on a star there. A good player, but is it a tragedy we didn’t get him? Don’t think so.

There were three players taken after Primo who averaged double digits in points.

Chris Duarte, taken immediately after Primo. Played a lot and got 13ppg on a team that won 25 games. A hint of empty stats again. Doesn’t look like a game-changing miss.

Tre Mann, scored 10ppg for OKC. Scoring 10 in Tank City does not look like a superstar. Nothing to cry over.

Bones Hyland scored 10ppg for Denver. That could more credibly count as a miss. He was drafted at 26, tho, and if the Spurs could be blamed for missing him, so could a lot of others.

Ironically, the player who might best be counted as a miss for the Spurs is Herbert Jones, also from Alabama. Drafted at 35. He had an excellent year with the Pelicans. One could easily claim the Spurs took the wrong guy from Bama.

As far as players who could have seriously helped the Spurs, it looks like maybe Bones Hyland or Herb Jones - just looking back from this point in time. Otherwise, meh. I don’t think they missed a star by taking a flyer with Primo. And it’s looking very very doubtful they missed the superstar they need, in that draft.

[TD 21]

That has nothing to do with what I said. The issue here isn't if #12 picks are succesful or not. The issue is wasting a lottery pick on a player you most likely could have got in the second round. There was no reason for the Spurs to use #12 on a guy nobody else was going to snatch from you before you had a second go at the draft.

Not absolving them, but there were rumors that the Hornets supposedly would have select him at 11 had Bouknight not fallen as well as the Hawks trying to trade up from 20 to select him.

[Robz4000]

It's a SPURS fans message board, not a Primo message board, you !d!ot. I have yet to read any intelligent take from you that brings some substance to your assertions. Either you don't have one, or you're too dumb to put them into words. Whichever the case, you're the resident clown here.

[itzsoweezee]

Yes, that’s a valid point. So, looking back at that draft, who did the Spurs miss out on, when they took Primo?

People will instantly think Sengun, I suppose. He played a lot and had some decent stats on a team that tanked. 20 wins. Looks like basically empty stats on a lousy team. Be that as it may, I don’t think the Spurs missed out on a star there. A good player, but is it a tragedy we didn’t get him? Don’t think so.

There were three players taken after Primo who averaged double digits in points.

Chris Duarte, taken immediately after Primo. Played a lot and got 13ppg on a team that won 25 games. A hint of empty stats again. Doesn’t look like a game-changing miss.

Tre Mann, scored 10ppg for OKC. Scoring 10 in Tank City does not look like a superstar. Nothing to cry over.

Bones Hyland scored 10ppg for Denver. That could more credibly count as a miss. He was drafted at 26, tho, and if the Spurs could be blamed for missing him, so could a lot of others.

Ironically, the player who might best be counted as a miss for the Spurs is Herbert Jones, also from Alabama. Drafted at 35. He had an excellent year with the Pelicans. One could easily claim the Spurs took the wrong guy from Bama.

As far as players who could have seriously helped the Spurs, it looks like maybe Bones Hyland or Herb Jones - just looking back from this point in time. Otherwise, meh. I don’t think they missed a star by taking a flyer with Primo. And it’s looking very very doubtful they missed the superstar they need, in that draft.

Duarte, Trey Murphy, Moses Moody, Sengun, Mann, are all better players than Primo. Perhaps Primo will catch up, but they’re clearly better right now. If it stays that way then the Primo pick will be another major draft screwup just a couple years after their last one.

And the relevant question isn’t whether those other players would have helped the Spurs. The question is whether those other players are better assets. And yes, all of them are better assets than primo right now. Hopefully he improves significantly