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    Sounds like Suns initially had no interest in paying that max, so it's weird now that Woj is implying that will match it. If they match it they can't trade him til Jan 15th, and he has veto power on any trade for a year. Be interesting to see how this plays out

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    Sounds like Suns initially had no interest in paying that max, so it's weird now that Woj is implying that will match it. If they match it they can't trade him til Jan 15th, and he has veto power on any trade for a year. Be interesting to see how this plays out
    An max offer from INDY is still much less than max PHX could have offered so maybe thats what they were aiming for the entire time.

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    Indeed Phoenix didn’t want to give him the 5th year and this works ok for them. They’ll match, then see what they can do about the locker room relationships. Will definitely be awkward.

    Good news is Indiana and Ayton have revived free agency after KD shot it in the head.

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    An max offer from INDY is still much less than max PHX could have offered so maybe thats what they were aiming for the entire time.
    Good point. And I believe it’s not inconsequential: 5% raises v 8%, and possibility of a 5th year

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    Funny how many dumbasses on this board didn’t think Ayton would get the max.

    I’m glad it wasn’t us that offered him it but anyone with half a brain knew he was getting that eventually.

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    First domino falls.

    Maybe more like the last? Sexton signing the QO was the last “big” piece.

    KD, Irving, Mitc can happen really any time, if they do at all.

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    I expect the Suns will match. They were a contender last year and don't want to lose him for nothing. If it doens't work out they'll trade him during the season.

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    Can't imagine the Suns won't match or work out a sign and trade for Turner.

    If Mitc get's traded to the Knicks and the Pelicans supposedly won't part with Ingram for now, if the Nets have any sense they take Durant and Irving into the season.

    They shouldn't even consider the agenda driven national media's wet dream of settling for Craptors garbage.

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    Funny how many dumbasses on this board didn’t think Ayton would get the max.

    I’m glad it wasn’t us that offered him it but anyone with half a brain knew he was getting that eventually.
    I always got the impression that most of us knew that the Suns didn't want to sign him to THEIR max with the 8 percenters and the 5th year.
    They'd be cool with matching another team's max, on the other hand, which is much cheaper and easier to trade/handle.

    Maybe I'm wrong.

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    Suns definitely match, but the Ayton veto clause has to really screw up their plans, both immediate and long-term.

    If I'm Brooklyn, I sit tight on the two divas.

    One month into the regular season w/ Westbrook, and the Lakers are definitely upping their offer tbh

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    As soon as the Suns received the four-year, $133M offer sheet, the franchise matched it. Deandre Ayton returns to Phoenix and can't be traded without his consent for a full year.

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    As soon as the Suns received the four-year, $133M offer sheet, the franchise matched it. Deandre Ayton returns to Phoenix and can't be traded without his consent for a full year.
    Man, even at the lower contract amount that is still one EXPENSIVE roster. If Cam Johnson blows up next year, for example, they'll likely have to let him walk in RFA.

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    Boring offseason tbh

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    Boring offseason tbh
    Wait till Durant and maybe Kyrie get dealt with.
    If they get dealt with.

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    Smart to not let him leave for nothing but still kinda surprised cheap ass Sarver actually matched

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    So the next Sun related question is..Will Sarver pay the tax or move players to get under?

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    So the next Sun related question is..Will Sarver pay the tax or move players to get under?
    They won't break up their core. If players are moved it won't be their top guys.

    They were bad and hit the bottom and now finally they have a contending team so they aren't in a hurry to break that up.

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    Smart to not let him leave for nothing but still kinda surprised cheap ass Sarver actually matched
    Same. They couldn't afford to lose him for nothing, but I really thought Sarver might just let him go rather than taking on that contract and luxury tax implications.

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    So the next Sun related question is..Will Sarver pay the tax or move players to get under?
    How much do they have to cut, as far as you understand?

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    How much do they have to cut, as far as you understand?
    15 million

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    They won't break up their core. If players are moved it won't be their top guys.

    They were bad and hit the bottom and now finally they have a contending team so they aren't in a hurry to break that up.
    I figure Saric and Crowder are the main guys they would dump if they want to get under the tax..

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    How much do they have to cut, as far as you understand?
    Between $15 and $20M

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    Free agent guard Austin Rivers has agreed on a one-year deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves, his agents Dave Spahn and Aaron Mintz of CAA Sports tell ESPN. Rivers played 67 games for Denver a year ago, where new president Tim Connelly signed him in consecutive seasons.

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    If we take on their players would you rather have a nearer pick or a further pick. I think I would want further away something alont 26 or 27. With us having cash and thinking we will go into season with lots of cap space we might be able t push for 2 especially if we put some protections on it.

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    Funny how many dumbasses on this board didn’t think Ayton would get the max.

    I’m glad it wasn’t us that offered him it but anyone with half a brain knew he was getting that eventually.
    That's a glass house you're throwing rocks from. Didn't you have some mo Bamba predictions? Lol

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