Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[DPG21920]

Her claims basically depend on dates aligning, HR paperwork, write-ups that might or might not exist, possible consequences that might or might not have happened, etc. The Spurs will save all those details for the courtroom.

Brian Wright could be in trouble depending on what he did between January and March ... but after that the Spurs legal department took over, so this would end up mostly being a battle between lawyers if it goes to court.

Wright could get fired (I don't think he will but others I've talked to do think he will get fired) but that's an internal situation and the Spurs don't need to comment on that aspect.

I think that is wild how Pop and players have no issues speaking up on issues (rightfully so) but when its at their doorstep its plead the fifth. Just dont agree with that at all.

It calls into question their integrity IMO to a degree with all the political/culture stuff then feel like fans who pay and bought into that dont deserve anything?

[LeBowen]

Yeah, we're gonna have to wait for this thing to unfold, because a lot of stuff doesn't add up.

For example, Self sponsorship on the unis was announced in June. By then, Primo issue was in full swing (no pun intended).
So why would the Spurs risk making him the face of their uni sponsorship if they knew what was happening and that it coudl escalate?
Or all the billboards etc.

Because if they knew what was going on and still decided to go with him as one of the faces of the franchises, then everyone has to ing go. Every single individual who knew about him being deranged.

Reputation damage aside, that would also be a big win, because Brian Wright has never looked like the right man for the job.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't think they say anything. Nothing in the Buzbee press conference really requires a response, IMO.

Haven't you reported a while ago that there's a rift in the Spurs FO? Sounds to me like it might be bigger than we thought

[Mugen]

I think that is wild how Pop and players have no issues speaking up on issues (rightfully so) but when its at their doorstep its plead the fifth. Just dont agree with that at all.

It calls into question their integrity IMO to a degree with all the political/culture stuff then feel like fans who pay and bought into that dont deserve anything?

Deepsie, have a seat. We need to have a hard talk about how the real world works

[cd98]

If she is full of it and the Spurs know there is no one else, then they will issue a strong statement denying everything. If they don't say anything, it means there is more to the case that makes them nervous.

[timvp]

You dont think fans are owed anything? Even with the “we are family” stuff? And how outspoken they are on other issues?

What do you want them to say? Do you want them to apologize or do you want the HR paperwork to prove their side of the story? Would you accept Wright being fired as a sufficient comment? I can't imagine something productive they could say in this situation. The most they'd say is, ironically, "we are family and all families have problems but we're working on this in-house and making sure procedures are put in place," etc.

[vy65]

Her claims basically depend on dates aligning, HR paperwork, write-ups that might or might not exist, possible consequences that might or might not have happened, etc. The Spurs will save all those details for the courtroom.

Brian Wright could be in trouble depending on what he did between January and March ... but after that the Spurs legal department took over, so this would end up mostly being a battle between lawyers if it goes to court.

Wright could get fired (I don't think he will but others I've talked to do think he will get fired) but that's an internal situation and the Spurs don't need to comment on that aspect.

Don’t give us hope

[Chinook]

The Spurs face legal liability. There should be no correlation between them speaking about racism or whatever and them not following their lawyers' advice. Come on now.

[mo7888]

I'd hate for Wright to go out like this(just because i dont really want a guys career derailed over something with this stigma) however, it won't be hard to replace him with somebody within our FO tree if you will..

[offset formation]

Her claims basically depend on dates aligning, HR paperwork, write-ups that might or might not exist, possible consequences that might or might not have happened, etc. The Spurs will save all those details for the courtroom.

Brian Wright could be in trouble depending on what he did between January and March ... but after that the Spurs legal department took over, so this would end up mostly being a battle between lawyers if it goes to court.

Wright could get fired (I don't think he will but others I've talked to do think he will get fired) but that's an internal situation and the Spurs don't need to comment on that aspect.

And how would the prep school allegation play into this if true, given that knowledge of an incident pre-draft would almost certainly be pertinent to the Spurs knowledge of pre-existing history for this behavior? And call into question every delay of action against him. And the Spurs promotion of him as the next face of the franchise. And the 3rd year option.

That story is the ultimate, you're ed, if it pans out. And would undoubtedly make heads roll either for not knowing about it or for knowing it and then not acting with haste once a second, third, or fourth allegation became known.

By the way, quick prediction: If Primo has a penchant for doing this type of behavior, there are undoubtedly more fish in the sea that will come forward, even if the Spurs may have already paid off the Minnesota or Vegas victims

[szkorhetz]

Primo's career is definitely over.

[MannyIsGod]

Wow this dude out here trying to make it seem like Pop was part of a cover up for clicks. What a .

[timvp]

The Spurs face legal liability. There should be no correlation between them speaking about racism or whatever and them not following their lawyers' advice. Come on now.

Agreed. It's weird how Spurs fans and Spurs haters try to relate everything back to Pop saying mean things about Christopher Columbus or whatever.

[vy65]

What do you want them to say? Do you want them to apologize or do you want the HR paperwork to prove their side of the story? Would you accept Wright being fired as a sufficient comment? I can't imagine something productive they could say in this situation. The most they'd say is, ironically, "we are family and all families have problems but we're working on this in-house and making sure procedures are put in place," etc.

Bull . They need to revamp their protocols to make sure this issue isn’t handled the same way again - meaning setting aside a whistleblower’s complaints until critics mass is hit. They need to re-assss and revise the policies that created this situation in the first place. They should hire a consultant and actually implement changes.

Wright should be fired. Not because it’s his pick - although he clearly can’t do a good assessment on character. But because of the 8mm extension. Icing on the cake will be if it turns out he facilitated this cluster in the early part of this year.

They should have some sort of dialogue with the public to express their understanding of these issues, accept blame (to whatever extent is appropriate), and work on making sure these incidences don’t occur again.

None of this is that hard to think of - and - there are plenty of consultancies out there that do this sort of work.

Being automatically mute on these issues - or showing intentional steps towards progress - is just a you to the fan base. There should be more transparency and Kawhi’ing this shows an organization seriously out of touch with the times.

[MannyIsGod]

I think that is wild how Pop and players have no issues speaking up on issues (rightfully so) but when its at their doorstep its plead the fifth. Just dont agree with that at all.

It calls into question their integrity IMO to a degree with all the political/culture stuff then feel like fans who pay and bought into that dont deserve anything?

Its pretty ridiculous to equate speaking out about structural inequalities in our society to pending litigation that might be aimed at them. Come the on man.

[vy65]

Lol so spurs care about racial issues but not women? Is that the sniffers position?

[T Park]

When you’re faced with a lawsuit one of the first things the lawyer says is “say nothing we’ll do the talkin”

There’s zero upside to making a statement when it comes to serious legal ramifications, and especially accusations of this nature. Not one lawyer would say “have a press conference, deny everything,”

A PR person yes, a lawyer no

[MannyIsGod]

The Spurs face legal liability. There should be no correlation between them speaking about racism or whatever and them not following their lawyers' advice. Come on now.

ing exactly! Weak ass take.

[KingKev]

I'd hate for Wright to go out like this(just because i dont really want a guys career derailed over something with this stigma) however, it won't be hard to replace him with somebody within our FO tree if you will..

We should poach someone from an up and coming front office though.

[MannyIsGod]

Bull . They need to revamp their protocols to make sure this issue isn’t handled the same way again - meaning setting aside a whistleblower’s complaints until critics mass is hit. They need to re-assss and revise the policies that created this situation in the first place. They should hire a consultant and actually implement changes.

Wright should be fired. Not because it’s his pick - although he clearly can’t do a good assessment on character. But because of the 8mm extension. Icing on the cake will be if it turns out he facilitated this cluster in the early part of this year.

They should have some sort of dialogue with the public to express their understanding of these issues, accept blame (to whatever extent is appropriate), and work on making sure these incidences don’t occur again.

None of this is that hard to think of - and - there are plenty of consultancies out there that do this sort of work.

Being automatically mute on these issues - or showing intentional steps towards progress - is just a you to the fan base. There should be more transparency and Kawhi’ing this shows an organization seriously out of touch with the times.

How was it handled though? Are you taking Buzzbee at face value, because that is ing laughable.

IF they covered up or didn't handle it right, I agree with you, but I don't understand why you're speaking on like its fact.

[timvp]

Bull . They need to revamp their protocols to make sure this issue isn’t handled the same way again - meaning setting aside a whistleblower’s complaints until critics mass is hit. They need to re-assss and revise the policies that created this situation in the first place. They should hire a consultant and actually implement changes.

Wright should be fired. Not because it’s his pick - although he clearly can’t do a good assessment on character. But because of the 8mm extension. Icing on the cake will be if it turns out he facilitated this cluster in the early part of this year.

They should have some sort of dialogue with the public to express their understanding of these issues, accept blame (to whatever extent is appropriate), and work on making sure these incidences don’t occur again.

None of this is that hard to think of - and - there are plenty of consultancies out there that do this sort of work.

Being automatically mute on these issues - or showing intentional steps towards progress - is just a you to the fan base. There should be more transparency and Kawhi’ing this shows an organization seriously out of touch with the times.

So you want them to accept blame, admit guilt and ins ute change while they face an open lawsuit? Yeah, no, not happening unless the Spurs feel like lighting money on fire.

For the record, I think it does sound like they need some procedures put in place to deal with this type of situation. If Wright was open to do whatever he wanted with her complaints, that's wrong.

[MannyIsGod]

So you want them to accept blame, admit guilt and ins ute change while they face an open lawsuit? Yeah, no, not happening unless the Spurs feel like lighting money on fire.

For the record, I think it does sound like they need some procedures put in place to deal with this type of situation. If Wright was open to do whatever he wanted with her complaints, that's wrong.

Well if she was smart, and as a person at her level she should be, there will be do entation of her contacts each step of the way. They won't even need discovery to show a record of contact that Wright ignored.

[T Park]

I really hope this isn’t a Joe paterno moment for pop. Put aside coaching etc, pop is a good man, who is extremely charitable and as kind hearted as it gets. From day 1 him taking over in 95 the spurs were run so much different than the Bass days. Strickland exposing himself and breaking his hand in a bar fight at 3 am. Trading Sean Elliott for. Nut case in Rodman.


If this is true, and Pop knew and was like “ meh, cover it up” that would 100% go against everything he has done or said since his days at Pomona pitzer.

[vy65]

So you want them to accept blame, admit guilt and ins ute change while they face an open lawsuit? Yeah, no, not happening unless the Spurs feel like lighting money on fire.

For the record, I think it does sound like they need some procedures put in place to deal with this type of situation. If Wright was open to do whatever he wanted with her complaints, that's wrong.

That time has passed, which is further evidence as to how this whole situation has been bungled. Again, they fired Primo. That’s the biggest admission you’re going to get short of RC saying “we ed up.”

They need to say something. Being mute is just going to allow conversations like this to fester, and with each passing day, make it seem like the organization does not care. At trial, what are the spurs gonna say, “we were quiet on all this because of the advice of counsel.” That makes them look even more culpable.

I don’t profess to know what or how they should say something. I do know that staying Kawhi on this makes them look culpable.

[tim_duncan_fan]

So basically, the Spurs thought this guy's jumpshot was so good (he doesn't have athleticism) that they were willing to put up with him waving his at staff members maybe more than once, maybe on several occasions with and before the Spurs. Goddamnit, this team is re ed sometimes.