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    Guys, well some of you. Instead of delighting yourself in the demise of SA Spurs have you read RC Buford statement ?

    For all who believe in the good guys that's great news.

    - Spurs "disagree with the accuracy, details and timeline" ... Well to make such a statement Buford has to feel on solid ground.

    - Spurs don't pay Buzzbee : they will allow the legal process to play out. That's a proof of the Spurs culture : we don't kneel. We stand our ground.

    - "We will continue to live by our values and culture" : Strong affirmation of Spurs way of being.

    Of course this doesn't play well for the fake Spurs fans who wish the FO .

    This short statement doesn't appear to come from a weak, hurt, damaged organization but from one who will fight according to its strong values.

    We'll see. It's just the beginning.
    This isn't a game man. We shouldn't support the Spurs because we support them on the basketball court. They're a group of real people in a legal battle against another just-as-real person. I'm not rooting for anything but truth and compensation based on the truth. I still like the Spurs, but I want to see them punished if they are guilty. If that happens I'll still be a fan of the team.

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    What sucks is that had they just suspended and fined Primo, he might've gotten the message the first time and still been with the team.

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    How does one flash a therapist during a therapy session without it just being silly and awkward? Are we talking about an aggressive type of flashing, like "look at this, !" Or just a random awkward dropping of the pants?

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    What sucks is that had they just suspended and fined Primo, he might've gotten the message the first time and still been with the team.
    maybe. but if he does have an issue, which i have no idea if he does or what it is, i don't know that he really would have. there have been plenty of athletes with compulsive behavior that never really responded to suspensions in the manner hoped.

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    This isn't a game man. We shouldn't support the Spurs because we support them on the basketball court. They're a group of real people in a legal battle against another just-as-real person. I'm not rooting for anything but truth and compensation based on the truth. I still like the Spurs, but I want to see them punished if they are guilty. If that happens I'll still be a fan of the team.

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    What if this is all an elaborate plan to get the team to Austin? Clean house, relocate. Call it a fresh start.



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    What if this is all an elaborate plan to get the team to Austin? Clean house, relocate. Call it a fresh start.



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    so it all went wrong when you mistook sarcasm for sarkazein. i would think that a "dig" falls into the latter category. i would have to say that there is a certain situational irony here in your demand for informed dialogue when this really isn't even a dialogue.
    Discussion. Give and take. Interchange. Back and forth.
    Debate. Have words. Etc. Better Habermas?

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    How does one flash a therapist during a therapy session without it just being silly and awkward? Are we talking about an aggressive type of flashing, like "look at this, !" Or just a random awkward dropping of the pants?
    That'll come out in the court filing and/or charging do ents assuming Bexar County charges him.

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    Discussion. Give and take. Interchange. Back and forth.
    Debate. Have words. Etc. Better Habermas?
    well it's not a dialectic, at least not in the Hegelian sense. back and forth works. i would have suggested banter.

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    maybe. but if he does have an issue, which i have no idea if he does or what it is, i don't know that he really would have. there have been plenty of athletes with compulsive behavior that never really responded to suspensions in the manner hoped.
    If the psychologist was a man, would Primo still have flashed him? Probably not, which makes Primo's behavior that much more disgusting. I don't think a slap on the wrist can fix a sexual predator. I would have requested some type of rehab and a minimum one year suspension. If that doesn't get it through his thick head, waive him and request the NBA to blacklist him.

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    What if this is all an elaborate plan to get the team to Austin? Clean house, relocate. Call it a fresh start.


    Screw Austin, let's get them to Vegas bay!

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    Guys, well some of you. Instead of delighting yourself in the demise of SA Spurs have you read RC Buford statement ?

    For all who believe in the good guys that's great news.

    - Spurs "disagree with the accuracy, details and timeline" ... Well to make such a statement Buford has to feel on solid ground.

    - Spurs don't pay Buzzbee : they will allow the legal process to play out. That's a proof of the Spurs culture : we don't kneel. We stand our ground.

    - "We will continue to live by our values and culture" : Strong affirmation of Spurs way of being.

    Of course this doesn't play well for the fake Spurs fans who wish the FO .

    This short statement doesn't appear to come from a weak, hurt, damaged organization but from one who will fight according to its strong values.

    We'll see. It's just the beginning.
    No defendent is ever going to say, welp you have us nailed on all points. Game over for us.

    I will grant you that since they didn't just pay already they might actually believe it. It could also be they're hoping it's just the therapist vs Primo and that there are no others or that they've already paid off any other accusers to keep this as a 1:1 accusation. If they're smart, and someone else already said it, they've already silenced other accusers. Which may be the readon thay Buzbee went public so those women come to him rather than to the Spurs or to the press first. All it'll take is one corroborated story from someone else and it's game over for Buzbee and some head or heads will roll.

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    How does one flash a therapist during a therapy session without it just being silly and awkward? Are we talking about an aggressive type of flashing, like "look at this, !" Or just a random awkward dropping of the pants?
    it seems as if the defense is posturing that primo inadvertently revealed his privates. this wouldn't have been a problem in the old NBA, before the baggy shorts look. i mean she might have seen a bulge but there's no way anything would have just popped out.

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    If the psychologist was a man, would Primo still have flashed him? Probably not, which makes Primo's behavior that much more disgusting. I don't think a slap on the wrist can fix a sexual predator. I would have requested some type of rehab and a minimum one year suspension. If that doesn't get it through his thick head, waive him and request the NBA to blacklist him.
    i see what you did there. seriously though, exhibitionism is real dysfunction so i agree that a suspension would likely have not worked. so much to gauge here but i am no expert and only know sparse details.

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    I'm glad it sounds like they're fighting it tbh. Never settle.

    (though they're probably gonna end up settling )
    Yes, you know they'll settle. Only outstanding question is for how much and then most importantly if it impacts the jobs of any PATFO officials.

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    Did he also talk about the murder?
    if so he can use me as his source

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    Can I get a summary please?

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    Yes, you know they'll settle. Only outstanding question is for how much and then most importantly if it impacts the jobs of any PATFO officials.
    "for how much" - Public will never know

    "if it impacts the jobs of any PATFO officials." - based on that presser, maybe BWrong at most and some other internal employees that nobody has ever heard of tbh

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    Can I get a summary please?
    Decapitated. Whole big thing. We had a funeral for a bird.

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    Ya I'm going to take what Tony Buzbee says at face value as 100% true.

    Um, no.

    The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

    Primo probably first showed his prick in December to her, whether she went straight to HR after this, who knows.

    I'm sure the timelines are a little off and there are a lot hurt feelings along the way which is obviously driving this. Would Bright Wrong try to cover this up since Primo was his guy? Maybe. Maybe not.

    As stated before, I"m sure there were discussions to look into the story, they couldnt verify it and they basically said, look its he said she said, we cant really do anything at this point.

    ASked her if this happened to provide more evidence, she couldnt. She kept making this a problem, Spurs probably felt since there is nobody else saying anything is it really happening?

    Whether she wants to accept it or not, Spurs are going to take his word (or any other player) over hers if she is the only voice signing about this.

    I have no doubt Popovich didnt know until last week or soon before, at which time the internal investigation really heated up, they found and could substantiate things and booted Primo.

    Spurs could have also heard from other players that they didnt like the therapist, werent getting anything out of it, felt they needed a different therapist, I dont know. My guess is they didnt renew her contract but they used other reasons for the non renewal and its a butt hurt mentality, she sought out numerous attorneys to take a case like this, only Buzbee would take it. A little surprising no San Antonio attorney took the case but also not surprising I guess.

    Spurs will eventually settle

    Spurs will fire some people.

    Spurs will announce some policy about future standards in case these things ever happen again.

    We all move on, hopefully all parties can find happiness and success in whatever they do going forward.

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    RC's statement is exactly the right one. He's basically saying that Buzbee's presentation of the facts does not align with theirs. The public isn't the place to dispute the facts.

    Where will the facts be disputed/argued over:

    1. Spurs Counsel and Buzbee will continue to talk. Spurs will say "here is our version of events and why we think your case won't prevail. Because of this, we'll offer you settlement of $X"
    2. They'll either negotiate a settlement, or they won't. If they won't, the Spurs will respond to the complaint with their set of facts, and then everyone will get to read them. But it won't be in full detail, as the Spurs aren't going to tip their entire hand before pre-trial motions. Until this time, there is ZERO interest in the Spurs making anything public.

    Spurs of ya'll expecting the Spurs to issue you a detailed memo are wild.

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    "Get over yourselves"
    If this goes to trial maybe the Spurs can bring Pop to the witness stand and he can tell the judge to get over himself.

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    timvp what is your take on Spurs picking up Primos option just a few weeks before release?

    Pop really didn’t know and Wright kept it under wraps and didnt say anything? Primo didnt have anything else come to light after initial report and only after (just bad luck?) another incident reported and Spurs had to let him go?

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    Well there is the four seasons rumour where he was kicked out of the hotel for flashing himself to a cleaner or something. Someone on reddit said this before anything was known. And then there was the leak that primo exposed himself to multiple women.

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