Game Thread: Grizzlies (7-4) at Spurs (5-6) November 9, 2022 | 7:00 PM CST

[Mr. Body]

Spurs didn't deserve that win

Why not?

[boutons_deux]

35 pts in 3rd

18 pts in 4th

[Mr. Body]

Left seven points at the FT line. Get one more of those and the game's straight over.

Need more rebounds from Sochan. Two ain't gonna cut it and the Spurs got dominated.

Bassey. He's doing everything. He has a toughness where Poeltl doesn't have it.

I like seeing Romeo hustle.

Vassel has the opposite of a clutch gene. If he has it with the game on the line I know he's going to miss.

[Dex]

Why not?

Because they let the game get away in the first four minutes of overtime. They were down 7 with 50 seconds left to go.

If not for a crazy clock malfunction, a bunch of confusion, and some turnovers and missed free throws by the Grizz....that game was over.

[Mr. Body]

Because they let the game get away in the first four minutes of overtime. They were down 7 with 50 seconds left to go.

If not for a crazy clock malfunction, a bunch of confusion, and some turnovers and missed free throws by the Grizz....that game was over.

Then Memphis doesn't deserve to win because Spurs missed makeable shots at the end of the game.

[objective]

I hope this ends the "Sochan is the new Rodman" nonsense. Washed up final year Rodman was 10 times the rebounder Sochan is. Part of the appeal of drafting a PF was to have a rebounder and get some pressure off of Keldon.

6 defensive rebounds in his last 5 games? Good Lord.

[heyheymymy]

Jones with 11/11ast against only 2 TO tonight wow

[Mr. Body]

I hope this ends the "Sochan is the new Rodman" nonsense. Washed up final year Rodman was 10 times the rebounder Sochan is. Part of the appeal of drafting a PF was to have a rebounder and get some pressure off of Keldon.

6 defensive rebounds in his last 5 games? Good Lord.

You fell for the Sochan/Rodman line? Is it because of the number and hair? That's funny. No, Sochan's skillset is a lot different.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Glad we lost, we really need a top 3 pick

[Atl Spur]

A productive loss….

[buttsR4rebounding]

Spurs played more of a Spurs game: 7 fewer turnovers and 5 fewer fouls. 30 assists and 12 turnovers is definitely fun to watch.

[KingKev]

Just cheaper and homegrown so more well-liked.
Understandably.
But yeah... for right now you're right. Lets see if he can make himself more of a net positive beyond the numbers.
He just went through a body transformation and a position change.
Can't expect an immediate impact towards the positive, but you can expect some sort of immediate impact.
Which we are seeing.
Adjustments will have to be made over the course of the season and offseason.

Don’t get me wrong I love the kid but I am struggling to see him be the first option long term. He is best suited as a third option who some games can really step up.

Growing pains but I love his progress.

[Mal]

Best possible outcome ? I am all for it, lose a game by missing buzzer beaters

[JPB]

I guess we should celebrate losing streaks. Only second to Charlotte 6 losses, tanking effort... Can we make it to ten and catch the Houston Bottomers?

[JeffDuncan]

Keldon is the new DDR. Anal(ytic) boys prove me wrong
with your mafffs

I’m no analytics nerd, but here’s something to consider. Look at ball dominance, which in the advanced stats is USG%. What percentage of the team plays go to a particular player? Is what it measures.

Five players, sharing play equally, would all have a USG% of 20. 100% / 5 = 20% of course.

DDR, over the past two seasons, has a USG% of 31.2. He is very ball dominant, more than 50% above the average.

Keldon the last two seasons has a USG% of 22.1. That’s only 10% more than a perfect team player, despite his increasing importance.

Keldon is a team player. DDR, not so much.

Oh, and it isn’t fully attributable to different systems. When DDR was here, in the Spurs’ team-first system, yes he was tamer, but his USG% was still high, never below 26. That’s the way he is.

[XDT76]

It would be good if Keldon can develop DDR's footwork, playmake and post game next.

[Seventyniner]

I’m no analytics nerd, but here’s something to consider. Look at ball dominance, which in the advanced stats is USG%. What percentage of the team plays go to a particular player? Is what it measures.

Five players, sharing play equally, would all have a USG% of 20. 100% / 5 = 20% of course.

DDR, over the past two seasons, has a USG% of 31.2. He is very ball dominant, more than 50% above the average.

Keldon the last two seasons has a USG% of 22.1. That’s only 10% more than a perfect team player, despite his increasing importance.

Keldon is a team player. DDR, not so much.

Oh, and it isn’t fully attributable to different systems. When DDR was here, in the Spurs’ team-first system, yes he was tamer, but his USG% was still high, never below 26. That’s the way he is.

It's funny that you bring up Keldon's USG%; I was just looking at his bkref page. He's up to 27.2% this year, which leads the team and is not at all unreasonable for your best scorer. Vassell is second at 25.1%.

[JeffDuncan]

It's funny that you bring up Keldon's USG%; I was just looking at his bkref page. He's up to 27.2% this year, which leads the team and is not at all unreasonable for your best scorer. Vassell is second at 25.1%.

You’re right. I didn’t look at just this year, in the earlier post, since it’s only 11 games so far. Small sample.

The major factor, in raising the others, is that Sochan’s USG% is very low, only 13.3 now. I expect that to increase as the season goes on. Hope I remember to take a look at the end of the season and see how it trended.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's funny that you bring up Keldon's USG%; I was just looking at his bkref page. He's up to 27.2% this year, which leads the team and is not at all unreasonable for your best scorer. Vassell is second at 25.1%.

Part of the problem we are having, if not winning is a problem lol, is that their usage is too low.