what happens to the republican party

[Winehole23]

Bonkers Republican bill in Idaho would make mRNA-based vaccination a crime
It's unclear if the two lawmakers know what messenger RNA is exactly.

Two Republican lawmakers in Idaho have introduced a bill that would make it a misdemeanor for anyone in the state to administer mRNA-based vaccines—namely the lifesaving and remarkably safe COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. If passed as written, it would also preemptively ban the use of countless other mRNA vaccines that are now in development, such as shots for RSV, a variety of cancers, HIV, flu, Nipah virus, and cystic fibrosis, among others.

The bill is sponsored by Sen. Tammy Nichols of Middleton and Rep. Judy Boyle of Midvale, both staunch conservatives who say they stand for freedom and the right to life. But their bill, HB 154, proposes that "a person may not provide or administer a vaccine developed using messenger ribonucleic acid [mRNA] technology for use in an individual or any other mammal in this state." If passed into law, anyone administering lifesaving mRNA-based vaccines would be guilty of a misdemeanor, which could result in jail time and/or a fine.

While presenting the bill to the House Health & Welfare Committee last week, Nichols said their anti-mRNA stance stems from the fact that the COVID-19 vaccines were initially allowed under emergency use authorizations (EUAs) from the Food and Drug Administration, not the agency's full regulatory approval. "We have issues that this was fast-tracked," she told fellow lawmakers, according to reporting from local news outlet KXLY.com.

The EUAs for the two mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines were issued in December 2020, and the FDA has subsequently granted full approval to both (Pfizer-BioNTech's in August 2021 and Moderna's in January 2022). This was pointed out to Nichols in the hearing last week.

Safe, effective
"They ultimately were approved under the ordinary approval process and did ultimately, you know, survive the scrutiny of being subjected to all the normal tests," Rep. Ilana Rubel, a democrat from Boise, said.

Nichols seemed unswayed by the point, however, with KTVB7 reporting that she responded that the FDA's approval "may not have been done like we thought it should've been done."

It's unclear what Nichols meant by that statement or why any potential questions about the regulatory review of two specific vaccines would justify criminalizing the use of all vaccines using a similar platform.

To date, more than 269 million people in the US have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine, and over 700 million doses of mRNA-based vaccines have gone into American arms, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The agency keeps close tabs on safety through various national surveillance systems. Although the shots do carry some risk (as is the case for any medical intervention), they have proven remarkably safe amid widespread use of hundreds of millions of doses in the US and worldwide. A study released late last year found that COVID-19 vaccination in the US alone averted more than 18 million additional hospitalizations and more than 3 million additional deaths from the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2.

There have been rare reports of adverse events, including blood clots and inflammation of the heart muscle and lining (myocarditis and pericarditis). However, these problems are very rare, and, in the case of myocarditis and pericarditis, they tend to be mild. Independent health experts who advise the FDA and CDC have consistently determined that the risk of developing these conditions does not outweigh the benefits of vaccination.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023...ation-a-crime/

smh, literally the party of stupid

fingers crossed it doesn't pass. would suck if it became law, iirc there's an mRNA based cancer shot on the way.

have you seen the Montana law that would ban teaching scientific theories?

[ChumpDumper]

I guess one flipside of that is being ashamed to admit it, even on an anonymous forum. So many wishy washy libertarians here; they don't like discussing their preferences at all.

That's true of almost anyone on the right here which includes any self-proclaimed libertarians. They either can't think for themselves, don't really believe anything or are too embarrassed to say.

Ask any of them a direct question and watch them themselves.

[Winehole23]

That's true of almost anyone on the right here which includes any self-proclaimed libertarians. They either can't think for themselves, don't really believe anything or are too embarrassed to say.

Ask any of them a direct question and watch them themselves.

It costs literally nothing to have a take on an anonymous forum. About your own bull at least if you can't comment on anything else.

[Winehole23]

Apparently there's an mRNA based HIV vaccine "several years away"

Diemert said this vaccine is the first HIV vaccine tested in humans that produces broadly neutralizing antibodies that are successful in stopping a variety of HIV strains and variants.

https://www.gwhatchet.com/2023/01/30...-human-trials/

[ElNono]

fingers crossed it doesn't pass. would suck if it became law, iirc there's an mRNA based cancer shot on the way.

have you seen the Montana law that would ban teaching scientific theories?

I don't get the angle of the anti-science stuff either, tbh... it's a surefire way to become irrelevant...

[Ef-man]

I don't get the angle of the anti-science stuff either, tbh... it's a surefire way to become irrelevant...

Genetics, they did poorly in school and now they must have kids doing poorly in school, tbh.

Math is next.

[ChumpDumper]

It costs literally nothing to have a take on an anonymous forum. About your own bull at least if you can't comment on anything else.

That's the weirdest part. It's not like we know these people IRL. Why are they so terrified?

[DarrinS]

It costs literally nothing to have a take on an anonymous forum. About your own bull at least if you can't comment on anything else.

That's the weirdest part. It's not like we know these people IRL. Why are they so terrified?

Literally nobody is terrified. I use my real name.

Step up

[Winehole23]

"if you move to a red state from a blue state with a previous Democratic Party registration, maybe you don't get to vote for five years"

[DarrinS]

Whinehole and Chumpdumper. Brave souls

[DarrinS]

Whinehole and Chumpdumper. Brave souls

Unanimous s

[Winehole23]

*strains to discern topical information*

[DarrinS]

Unanimous s

Ambiguous s

[Winehole23]

I don't get the angle of the anti-science stuff either, tbh... it's a surefire way to become irrelevant...

they're coming for power and they're coming for it now. carrying a cross and wrapped in the US flag.

[DarrinS]

they're coming for power and they're coming for it now. carrying a cross and wrapped in the US flag.

You should double mask on your bike. Because science.

[Winehole23]

You should double mask on your bike. Because science.

how ridiculous

[ChumpDumper]

Literally nobody is terrified. I use my real name.

Step up

you're the worst of them all, Drive-By.

[ChumpDumper]

Whinehole and Chumpdumper. Brave souls

What's your last name?

[Winehole23]

You should double mask on your bike. Because science.

they already outlawed abortion, because religion.

they're banning school books in several states, they're blacklisting and prosecuting teachers. in Missouri they even tried to crack down on bare arms in the State House.

[Winehole23]

What's your last name?

Ducks-the-topic

Nonstop
24/7
Widespread

[Winehole23]

[Goob]

As someone said, today's libertarians are just fascists who smoke pot and want to have sex with kids.

I do smoke pot every so often tbh lol but anyone who does the second part of your post deserves to burn in and get molested by Satan.

[ChumpDumper]

I do smoke pot every so often tbh lol but anyone who does the second part of your post deserves to burn in and get molested by Satan.

Be sure to bring that up at the next party meeting.

[MultiTroll]

Ron Johnson joins all Senate Republicans to block bill aimed at disclosing big political donors’ iden ies (msn.com)

[Winehole23]

Iowa crusade against margarine.