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    But climate
    But other men need to be helped
    But I need help

    How can a Straight Man in 2023 vote Left. Check yourself in the mirror.

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    I'm gonna move back to Europe.

    Grow a ing nutsack. You ain't a teenager anymore. Grow up.

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    drunk self soothing

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    I'm harsh. I grew up Liberal and still love Western Civilization. Chat tomorrow. Goodnight.

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    You're as soft as they come.

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    You're as soft as they come.
    We came from the same team

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    Still waiting for Nono and Chump to tell me why they force blacks to live in the south among white racists who hate them,,,,since their democrat policies wont allow them to live in the north,,,,

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    We came from the same team
    No.

    Still waiting for Nono and Chump to tell me why they force blacks to live in the south among white racists who hate them,,,,since their democrat policies wont allow them to live in the north,,,,
    False premise.

    Try again.

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    Imagine being a 30+ year old man Liberal.

    Talking to another Man from foreign country and admitting you are Liberal. Just say you take .

    Imagine being so insecure in oneself that you dissociate into forced stories from various message board accounts.

    You can shove your US Klan ideology up your own ass.

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    We both know that so called unemployment number is skewed. Both Trump and Brandon touted that meaningless #. Meanwhile, crippling inflation was actually caused by both administrations.

    You guys actually think that bringing over immigrant labor is going to improve wages ?
    You keep saying this, but you're not saying what wages you're looking to improve? We live in a globalized world, you don't need to bring in anybody to have work done in India, China, El Salvador, etc, and they're all 10x more compe ive (read: cheaper) than using US labor.

    The US is just never going to be able to compete with those countries, period. If we need something done closer, Mexico is cheap ass as well. That ship has sailed a long time ago.

    So this never was about wages. This is simply going to the fact that boomers and the like ruined it for the current generations and we find ourselves in a situation where we have less people chipping in to pay for more people's retirement.

    There's no simple solution to that, other than some relatively important amount of immigration to fill the gap and expand your tax base. This is purely economics, nothing to do with politics.

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    Imagine being a 30+ year old man Liberal.
    I'm actually shocked anybody with above room temperature IQ would readily admit to being conservative, tbh...

    Especially what conservatism has turned into the US in this day and age...

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    I'm gonna move back to Europe.
    Most of Europe is quite liberal... at least most countries that actually matter...

    France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Finland, etc etc etc. England still one of those countries with strong conservative traditions, but I bet you puke every time they bend the knee before any game in the EPL.

    Then you have Western Europe. But nobody really cares about them...

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    The

    ”I used to be liberal” ploy.

    Well I used to think conservatives understood the basics of democracy.
    I thought both sides learned it is NOT an easy system because it has to balance the rights of the individual along with a meaningful UNITED for the good of the whole. But the red team has basically admitted they want a one party system with a dictatorship backed by an oligarchy of wealthy. Sounds like a familiar system comrades.

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    I'm actually shocked anybody with above room temperature IQ would readily admit to being conservative, tbh...

    Especially what conservatism has turned into the US in this day and age...
    Imagine voting for Herschel Walker just to pwn teh libs

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    Imagine voting for Herschel Walker just to pwn teh libs
    Imagine voting for a vegetable on two legs like John Fetterman over a doctor who went to Harvard,,,,lmao. Democrats are the stupidiest people on the planet and it's not even close. You guys and gals even voted in a zombie with dementia to guide your party,,,,

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    Imagine voting for a vegetable on two legs like John Fetterman over a doctor who went to Harvard,,,,lmao.
    Fetterman went to Harvard,,,,lmao.

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    Fetterman went to Harvard,,,,lmao.
    The hits keep on coming lmao

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    I'm actually shocked anybody with above room temperature IQ would readily admit to being conservative, tbh...

    Especially what conservatism has turned into the US in this day and age...
    Conservatism is the status quo. My family joined the USA in the late 1980s and it's steadily worsened. Has there been a significant improvement? Gay rights . I supported when I was a teenager but I have far more important priorities today as an adult than the LGT+Q community.

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    Conservative is the status quo. My family joined the USA in the late 1980s and it's steadily worsened. Has there been a significant improvement? Gay rights . I supported when I was a teenager but I have far more important priorities today as an adult than the LGT+Q community.
    What has become worse in your opinion? Gay rights?

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    What has become worse in your opinion? Gay rights?
    Decline in nuclear families. Loss of traditions. More drug use (in Suburbia). All leading to high suicide rates. Obesity.

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    Conservatism is the status quo. My family joined the USA in the late 1980s and it's steadily worsened. Has there been a significant improvement? Gay rights . I supported when I was a teenager but I have far more important priorities today as an adult than the LGT+Q community.
    Factually speaking, conservatism is currently a minority in the USA (and I would advance around the world as well) and has been for at least two decades.

    We can discuss about the many reasons of such a fall, but what's important is that they need to reinvent themselves and get in touch with the modern world, or they really risk falling into irrelevance in the long run.

    There's only so much you can do with gerrymandering and making it hard to vote.

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    Decline in nuclear families. Loss of traditions. More drug use (in Suburbia). All leading to high suicide rates. Obesity.
    So big business happened.

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    We're so much better than in the 80s, are you kidding? Substantially (like a lot) less crime. Better GDP per capita. Still the World leader in most areas that matter.

    And what's the thing about nuclear family? The divorce rate when Reagan left the WH was ~37%, it's ~42% today. It really hasn't changed much.

    And BTW, there's plenty of studies on divorce rates broken down by political party, but you'll find out really quickly that the percentage is more or less the same in both cases.

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    And what's the thing about nuclear family? The divorce rate when Reagan left the WH was ~37%, it's ~42% today. It really hasn't changed much.

    And BTW, there's plenty of studies on divorce rates broken down by political party, but you'll find out really quickly that the percentage is more or less the same in both cases.
    When I hear conservatives talk about family values or nuclear family bull , what I really think is that they want us to revert back to the 50s. A time when women were basically tied to the kitchen and weren't allowed to voice dissatisfaction with the married.

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    We're so much better than in the 80s, are you kidding? Substantially (like a lot) less crime. Better GDP per capita. Still the World leader in most areas that matter.

    And what's the thing about nuclear family? The divorce rate when Reagan left the WH was ~37%, it's ~42% today. It really hasn't changed much.

    And BTW, there's plenty of studies on divorce rates broken down by political party, but you'll find out really quickly that the percentage is more or less the same in both cases.
    You are correct, the divorce rate is high even amongst conservatives.

    I think what Frost is referring to this current generation's stance on marriage in general, which overall does not seem to be the priority that it used to be. People frequently decide to live as unmarried couples. Also, the alphabet mafia is heavily pushing their agenda, indoctrinating children so you have a lot of confused young people who don't know what they like because they have been conditioned to believe that they have to at least try gay stuff or they will be considered a bigot. So they remain unmarried.

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