Yes I did. If he es move him. If he doesn't you keep them playing together.
i dont think mediocre teams have the luxury of passing on BPA for fit. its not like terry rozier is a factory made SG anyway. he's been a PG his whole career who moved to SG, nominally. he still averages more assists per game and per minute than he ever did when he was listed as a PG. these positions are becoming more malleable. lillard and mccollum coexisted, and CJ has become mostly a PG since moving to new orleans
Scoot isn't a clear BPA over Miller.
if thats where the impasse is, thats a different conversation altogether. this whole back and forth had been about whether the hornets taking scoot could work or if the existence of lamelo makes it a poor landing spot. obviously that whole discussion takes place under the assumption that scoot is the bpa
Miller is going to be a bust for a 2nd overall pick.
Scoot has a higher bust chance than Miller does. He's small, and an average to below average shooter.
That could be right.
Sure it's Wemby, but Scoot's been blocked 3 times by Vic, twice on jumpers, during their first game in Vegas. Due to his size, Scoot will need more separation than in the G League for his shots in the NBA not to get blocked, which could prevent him to take a lot of them. And he's not a spot up shooter.
He could also have more diffculties finishing at the rim against stronger, taller NBA bigs.
Starting to realize Scoot Henderson is this year's John Collins who was that year's Tobias Harris. A player who doesn't fit, isn't as good as people think, and is a complete obsession of certain denizens of this board.
I think a few of you have bashed Scoot enough that you're starting to convince yourselves that he's gonna bust... I've gotta give it to you guys...if nothing else, you're a determined lot...
Who thinks he's going to bust? I just think he's going to be a basic undersize shooter who earns a lot of money and lead a mid team. He's a Washington Wizard in spirit.
There are several here that think he's going to bust, especially compared to his draft range. You're not in the 'bust' group, I'll admit. However, I don't think descriptions like 'undersized' or 'midget' are even remotely accurate either. At 6'2" with a 6'9" ws he'll actually be able to guard a lot of 2's in the league.
To me, if you're expecting a franchise player at #2, your description is that of a bust.
I'm not saying he will bust, because no one knows that right now, just that he has a high chance of doing so. There are far fewer paths to s om for a little guy, especially one that isn't a knockdown shooter. I like the way that Dean sometimes analyzes players. He equates each skill that they lack and need to develop to a coinflip, and each coin flip that you need to go right in order to be a star cuts your odds in half. If you need 6 skills, your odds are 1.5% to be a superstar. 5 skills leaves you at 3.1% odds of supers om. It's a harsh lense to view a player through, but then again, that's why there are so few true superstars.
I also don't believe he's gonna bust, but never will be the kind of guy you want in a contending team. Will get his stats, screams and chest bumps, then a big contract from a badly run team that will become an albatros.
He's been programed as a kid to make the NBA and you can see he's the lacking the basic self-awareness and humility you need to really become a star the kind of guy who makes everything about themselves, à la Westbrook... I swear he's saying " you" after a made lay up over Wemby in Vegas where he's yelling and screaming lile a mad man the whole game.
The same people who say Scoot will bust cause he shoots 28% from 3 are obsessed with Anthony Black who can‘t shoot at allY‘all funny
Seriously a lot of holier than thou going on tooThe same people who say Scoot will bust cause he shoots 28% from 3 are obsessed with Anthony Black who can‘t shoot at all
He has Sideshow Bob hairThe same people who say Scoot will bust cause he shoots 28% from 3 are obsessed with Anthony Black who can‘t shoot at all
That's based on his psychology and not his game. I think he's basically a good kid and how he pans out in that area will largely depend on the franchise he ends up with. His psychology/ mindset is my only real concern and I think if he's here we'll develop that...other places not so much...
Fyi- I don't expect us to move up that high for him..
The same people who are down on Black for his shooting Stan Scoot.The same people who say Scoot will bust cause he shoots 28% from 3 are obsessed with Anthony Black who can‘t shoot at all
Probably that one affects the game a hundred other ways and the other one don't.The same people who say Scoot will bust cause he shoots 28% from 3 are obsessed with Anthony Black who can‘t shoot at all
6’2 with a 6’9 wing span, built from head to toe, a slasher with speed and can get to the rim easily. Would you draft Tony Parker with the 2nd or 3rd pick? This dude seems to have all the tools and a better prospect coming in than Tony did obviously. Fk it, trade all the picks we acquired and move anyone on the team to get it done. At first i was against it, but its time to get two #1 picks in the same draft if its possible and swing for the fence.
Scoot 6’2
Vassel 6’7
Wemby 7’4
Sochan 6’9
Colins 7’0
this line up is �� and it fits.
As good as Wemby could be we do need someone to keep the offense moving and have another threat or shot creator to help keep the defense honest. Otherwise defenses will just camp Wemby.
Even Michael Jordan needed to have some of that around him to help translate stats into wins.
I'm not saying that guy has to be Scoot but he does fit perfectly in Wemby's timeline. It just cracks me up on here sometimes when many on here act like every player that's not on the Spurs roster are scrubs when in turn overate the talent level that's on the current roster.
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Obviously the Spurs are not going to trade five first round picks for Scoot Henderson.
They should move the Chi, Charlotte, Toronto and two of their own future picks. That would be a steal for Scoot.
It would take a three team trade (highly unlikely) but if that trade for those picks were on the table the spurs should pull the trigger on that deal.
Scoot would give the Spurs two potential future all star level players and a supporting cast that could develop into solid role players.
Just keep the Atlanta unprotected picks. The Spurs have to find another dynamic scorer, all star level player to team with Wemby.
You can believe that current player is on the current team which I don't or the Spurs will be able to find that player outside the lottery which is not likely or take a swing at Scoot.
Wemby can't carry a bunch of role players on this team by himself.
Spurs were 2nd from the bottom in offensive efficiency and worst in defensive efficiency. They aren't finished yet building around Wemby and those picks other than Atlanta's will likely not be lottery picks.
Interesting article on Denver GM Calvin Booth and his thoughts on the importance of positional size and other things: https://denvergazette.com/sports/gen...b3967fc37.html
“A lot has been made of the defensive acquisitions, and I do think it’s important to have defenders, but more importantly, I feel like we targeted positional size,” Booth said in a Ball Arena hallway after the Nuggets’ practice Saturday ahead of Game 2. “If you have positional size and you defensive rebound pretty well and if you’re smart, you can become a good defender.”
“Organizationally, that's something, (in) conversations with Calvin Booth when he took over last summer, that was their priority,” Malone said. “When you looked at last year's NBA Finals, not many small players out there because people are going to find you. We wanted to have positional size, strength, versatility. I think Calvin has done a of a job kind of putting this group together.”
“I felt like there was points in the season because of roster construction and the expectation level of some of the players that, he had to play smaller lineups and three-guard lineups. I think (those are) lineups that probably wouldn’t have held up as well in playoff basketball. For him to make that adjustment on the fly, was very impressive.”
"Get big, smart players that have a chance to be good defenders and hopefully they can do that,” Booth said, summing up his approach. "Big is important, but so is smart."
I do'nt believe there can be a dominant, small player (like scoot) in the NBA anymore, a guy that bring you ships... There's bigger talented player at every postion nowadays, including on defense. And if you can't really shoot at that... Whether on NBA talent or at ude, I don't believe Scoot is a player spurs should and are targetting, and certainly not spend many FRPs on. You got Wemby, now bring proven talent with your assets.
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