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glad to see LJ and spurstalk getting their flowers from the twitter normies.... its about time
I can see an outside possibility of all three.
- Resigning Tre is an automatic, in my opinion. Unless he somehow asks for a huge bag, he's really well fit in this team, fantastic character, and is honestly a great player.
- Only assuming trading up in this exercise. The Bufkin-type won't be ready to lead a team but will get good run.
- We've seen teams like the Knicks have success with multiple guards. Imagine a Wembanyama instead of a Randle and multiple points of attack.
- We have to spend money. The team does need veteran leadership, despite a bunch of pretty cool guys. Another option is absorbing Kyle Lowry's one year contract, if Heat is willing to do it at close to no cost.
- I honestly don't mind Chris Paul for a year or two. He does improve the play around him at least for a while.
Agree, though, that we're probably seeing either option two or three, with option one a probable gimme.
glad to see LJ and spurstalk getting their flowers from the twitter normies.... its about time
Never understood the CP3 hate. Wouldn't be opposed to a short term deal.
The issue isn't his fit but whether he would even consider the Spurs, imo.
Not mentioned is what the team might be willing to use to get another pick. No current players mentioned.
It does suggest the 33 would be used if another first isn't available. Those of us who've said they will be aggressive have probably been on the right track.
With a strong, coordinating veteran point guard, I do also see this as a possible playoff team. The squad itself will be much improved - and I don't think we have a hang yet of how good Wembanyama actually is going to be - but the WC is looking distressed. Only Denver seems like a playoff lock. Sacramento and OKC and then not many 'locks' at all.
In order to guarantee Black, the Spurs probably have to move to 6 or 7. I'm not sure how to value those picks, but the Spurs could certainly put together a compelling offer.
Some combination of Keldon Johnson, Blake Wesley, one unprotected Atlanta pick (or any number of lesser value FRPs) and some number of SRPs....we could put together a package to get to 3 or 4, in fact. If we move to 6 or 7 for Black, I hope we don't overpay. I'd rather keep the picks than overpay.
I wonder if the Black leak is misdirection. I would have guessed Amen Thompson would be San Antonio's target.
It feels great to sit at the top of the draft and simultaneously possess enough disposable assets to acquire another lottery pick.
No offense to Timvp but how exactly would other GMs , scouts or executives know who spurs would be targeting? That's pure speculation, guessing not information. If anything spurs are creating smoke screens.... Black is spurs material so Spurs would be interested in him... they certainly are in a vac , and would maybe trade up in the 20s for him, but not for the prize it would cost in the top 10... I mean when was the last time whe knew who spurs were really targeting?
Who knows, maybe Timvp is part of the smoke screens...
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I really, really have trouble believing the Spurs are interested in Van Vleet. CP3, definitely. But FVV? I don't see it
Upon review, I think you’re right. Always thought it was FVV who said it, but doesn’t sound like his voice. He does laugh when Kawhi’s friend says it though
even if that scout was right, CP3 is likely going to chase a ring, which would rule out SA.
He’s not the locker room guy people make him out to be. He’s a spoiled brat that wants all the attention of superstar while being injured half the season and generally doesn’t do in the playoffs. Especially at this point in his career.
I don’t see him as an asset at all. He’s not worth it.
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quit huffing your own farts dip
If Pop were a player he'd be the second highest paid Spurs. Clown world.
Early load management?
He could have come in 2017 and his flipping the script to force the trade to Houston instead locked the Spurs into giving Gasol that ridiculous three year extension.
Do you think it would be worth the cost to trade up to the 6-9 range you'd need to be in to get Black? Think I'd rather hold onto those Atlanta picks and the Atlanta and Boston swaps to make a move for a star in a year or two if Victor progresses as we're expecting.
Man, I know the draft is 8 days away but I can’t wait to see Wemby with a Spurs hat on.
And maybe a second first rounder? Who knows.
Purely speculation of course, but I feel like PATFO really like Anthony Black and would be willing to offer a considerable package to move up and grab him tbh, say to Orlando at #6 or Washington at #7, assuming he’s still available. Was just announced an hour ago that the Wizards are looking to trade Bradley Beal, so they’re obviously going full rebuild mode, and would probably consider a package of multiple draft picks.
But either way, Black’s game just fits what the Spurs want. He’s got great upside to go with his already great size at 6’6, his already great defense, and his advanced feel for the game. He’s a high character kid, he fills a position of need, and I think they believe they can fix his jumper. Idk, could be wrong obv, but he’s the guy I think they wanna target if they indeed are able to trade up into that 6-8 range. Won’t be cheap though. But I like him enough to be happy giving up multiple picks tbh.
Yea Pop making $14M/per to coach a rebuilding team is pretty nuts, but it’s Pop, and the contract Detroit just gave Monty Williams set the market. And Spurs really want Pop back now I’m assuming with Wemby in the mix, so I get it. A 3-year deal helps bridge the gap to Steve Kerr or Bud or whoever they end up handing the reins to.
5 rings, baby.
Having to watch CP0 in Spurs uniform would have a worse impact on my enthusiasm to watch games than Bryn returning.
I'd take FVV only if it's a 3 year deal.
You can probably get CP3 on a 2 or 3 year deal with enough money, but Van Fleet is signing a 4-year deal with the 4th year a player option almost for sure. You can probably get Paul for 3/90 with the 3rd year partially guaranteed.
Would they? From what I've read Black is one of the most controversial players in the top 10. Maybe the org knows what teams want him / don't and think they can get him later ala Malakhi
To make it very simple, the equation could be: Black or Luka?
I like him, but no way I see spurs trading up to the 6th (or higher ) spot to get him. First because, he' isn't worth it, thats Anthony Black people not MJ and he has played 0 NBA games, secondly because the FPRs and assets you lose for Anthony freaking Black may cost you a (real) second star...
That's just when you won a huge hand (Wemby) at a poker table after going all in (tanking) and you feel like putting half of your stack on the table with an average hand because you're happy-happy, then you lose and don't have enough cash to drain the table on the next hand with a royal flush... We just got Wemby. Easy, cool. Bring some experience and keep the cash for the royal flush (Luka or whoever). Lets' not get oveverexcited and see gems everywhere. Spurs need cer udes now around Victor.
I have issue overpaying with picks. As long as we don’t move any core players. This is the wrong time to move Keldon. I’m fine with moving any other lower level players and picks if need be. I think it’ll take 2 firsts and a second plus a bench player.
I don’t see Black falling past Washington unless someone makes an unlikely slip.
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