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well, players skip international compe ions with their national teams each summer. these rules should not be so difficult to bend....
Depending on where they would have to trade to to get him and the price, I wouldn't hate Wallace at all. He's that Conley/Jrue mold where they're good defenders, good distributors, good shooters, but low friction, not needing a ton of usage.
well, players skip international compe ions with their national teams each summer. these rules should not be so difficult to bend....
Maybe I wasn't completely clear. Players can skip anything they want. Teams cannot prohibit them from going.
not a bad idea for either team. dallas needs the defensive presence, and ATL has to start becoming salary conscious. they probably want okongwu to take over at C anyway
Cason Wallace is a nice option as well. One of Bufkin/Black/Wallace will definitely drop into that 10-17 range where I think it'll make sense for the FO to move up tbh.
honestly love this crop of PGs. they're all solid defenders with good size. they dont have complete games, but the spurs dont really need their PG to be a "take the game over" type of guy anyway.The fact we haven’t heard anything about Cason Wallace makes me think he might be the guy the Spurs are targeting to move up for tbh. Or even Jalen Hood-Schifino. Guys we haven’t heard connected to us at all so far.
Either could be good gets imo. Wallace seems like the perfect type of Spurs player. High-character and not real flashy. Just a strong, hard-nosed defender with a good feel for the game and who plays the right way. One of the best perimeter defenders in the Draft and has that Kentucky pedigree. Could easily see the Spurs liking him tbh.
i have my preferences, but wouldnt be mad with any of the bigger names. i dont think black is a feasible target even though he's my favorite, but any of wallace/bufkin/hood-schifino is fine by me. though if we do go the rookie PG route, then it makes a ton of sense to re-sign Tre as the steadying hand. if we go the veteran route like CP3 (or ugh, vanvleet), then its not as important to re-sign Tre
Last edited by spurraider21; 06-16-2023 at 12:29 PM.
well, yes but i believe that the franchises that pay huuuuuge salaries to these guys can find a way to say them to skip it. whatever the rule is.
I also imagine it depends on the player's status on the team and his contract situation.
but about our topic, do you envision the Spurs asking Victor not to go to the World Cup ? well, i do.
and i'm interested to know if timvp or anyone has some informations on this.
Last edited by kace; 06-16-2023 at 01:01 PM.
Spurstalk sleeping on Jalen Hood-Shifino
He could end up the best PG from this draft class.
Same. That’s why I think this is the year to trade back up. 4 legit PG prospects we could go after and I’d be happy with any of them. Black is my favorite as well, but I agree he’ll be gone by 8 and is therefor out of our reach (I don’t think the Spurs want to trade Keldon). It sounds like Bufkin is moving up boards too, and may even go as high as #8 to Washington according to Jonathan Givony. If that’s the case, he’s out of our reach too imo.
Either Cason Wallace or JHS would be a good consolation prize though. Think I’d prefer Wallace personally, but I like JHS’s potential too. He’s not quite the athlete or defender Wallace is, but he’s a solid defender in his own right, and he’s a couple inches taller too at 6’4 1/2, which I like. He’s also a little better scorer right now (granted he’s a year older) and he’s a bit flashier/more fun to watch. I’d be happy with either of these guys though. Hopefully one of them falls past 15, then I think the Spurs would be aggressive to move up tbh.
Agreed he’s being slept on. Not sure he winds up being the best PG in this class, unless Amen and Black bust at the next level (unlikely given their skill sets), but I do like his two-way potential at the next level, especially if he’s paired up with someone like Wemby. He’s fun to watch with some of his flashier passes and finishes around the basket, similar to Black, though he’s a much better outside shooter than him. Those 2 guys also turn the ball over than the other PG’s though, which will need to be cleaned up.
Last edited by BatManu20; 06-16-2023 at 02:01 PM.
I don't. After the Kawhi mess, they'll likely go out of their way to cater to him.
yeah i think moving up this year for a PG is definitely the play. i do think keldon is eventually going to be a trade piece but theres no real urgency to move him. he's on year 1 of a good 4 year deal. i would basically wait until 2 of the PG targets are off the board and then start making calls in deals that dont involve keldon
JHS probably has the most work to do when it just comes to cleaning up and polishing his game, but if you squint you basically see the whole package. his shooting splits arent very good but his pullup jumper looks really natural/smooth
good point. we'll see
Cason falling and us moving up into the mid teens might be the most realistic of these dream scenarios.
That wouldn't upset me at all, as long as the price is right. At 14/15, you might be able to get away with the CHA pick and 33.
Unlikely, given Charlotte's pick may not convey... but last year I didn't think Charlotte would trade #13 for Denver's '23 pick which was going to be in the 20s and they did, so who knows.
Also, with most top 10 picks up for sale (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10 reportedly), it may be cheaper to move up than most drafts.
There are two shots at it, and Charlotte is getting the band back together from a 43 win team year before last, plus adding either the #2 pick or whatever they trade it for.
I wonder what this all says about this draft, if anything. That or maybe teams feel there is better value in the backend where salaries are cheaper for only slightly worse talent/production?
and, if memory serves, bridges is only set to miss the first ten games of the season-assuming the new ownership is on board with bringing him back.
I think they probably want to win, and Bridges gives them a better chance than no Bridges.
My trade up PG preferences:
Black
Bufkin
Wallace
Likeliest:
Wallace
Bufkin
Black
Thinking the same. And I’d be really happy with that. I like Wallace as a prospect and buy into the Jrue Holiday comparisons, granted he’s an inch shorter. But either way, he seems very Spursy with his high-character, selfless play, and low-maintenance demeanor. He would be a great addition at a position of need for us, and would fit seamlessly with our roster + Wemby. Plus, he’s arguably the best perimeter defender in this draft with a plus 3-point shot already. I’m all for it. Here’s to hoping a team doesn’t draft him before the top 15.
Still, they'd be trading bird in hand for bird in the bush... doesn't make much sense. I don't think #33 makes up for the uncertainty, plus honestly I wouldn't want to give up on it, I think there's a very real shot there's value to be had in the mid 20s to early 30s.
imo that won't be enough. The CHA pick can't ever be any higher than #15. The CHI pick plus #33 gets it done, or maybe CHI + #44 and a couple of other future seconds if the Spurs want to be stingy.
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