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    Lol that would be funny, they wouldn't have traded Jakob if they knew Wemby would come. You don't want an AD situation with him where there is a carousel of centers every other season forcing him to play tougher physical matchups and making him age 10 years. Zollins is the better fit but the injury history is one of the worst in the league, same for Bassey. Personally I would prefer Vooch but Jakob is a solid option.

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    During the Olympics, it was reported Kuzma and Pop like one another. Pop thinks he's a useful player. I like him in a defined role, particularly as a bench scorer and floor spacer. His defense has improved in recent seasons too.

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    It's probably not going to matter, but there legitimate players at multiple positions available in free agency, and the Spurs' cap space and expiring contracts give them a chance to be aggressive with the players they trade away. Those guys sometimes lack the same upside and will definitely be more expensive. But they are more reliable variables, and if moving someone like Johnson or even Vassell or Sochan gets the Spurs that second blue-chipper, the team would have a way to recouping their lost impact. Again, I'm not particularly advocating for them making such a trade, but I do hope the Spurs have a more dynamic roadmap to team-building and not the rather flat one represented by timvp's article.
    Totally agree. That's the only instance I'd be OK trading those guys.

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    Houston is very high on Fred VanVleet
    Because, of course they are.

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    Poeltl and VanFleet are both way overrated.

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    It's probably not going to matter, but there legitimate players at multiple positions available in free agency, and the Spurs' cap space and expiring contracts give them a chance to be aggressive with the players they trade away. Those guys sometimes lack the same upside and will definitely be more expensive. But they are more reliable variables, and if moving someone like Johnson or even Vassell or Sochan gets the Spurs that second blue-chipper, the team would have a way to recouping their lost impact. Again, I'm not particularly advocating for them making such a trade, but I do hope the Spurs have a more dynamic roadmap to team-building and not the rather flat one represented by timvp's article.
    It's too abstract for me. Can you name the players available in free agency that would replace Sochan, Vassell or Keldon?

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    I know the Spurs need to get up to 90% of the cap in order not to lose tax revenues. So that's about $119 million in salary. However this year is a transition and they would only lose 50% of the tax revenue so I think between 10 and 15 million. If the right deals don't come along this summer to rent cap space and gather some more draft capital I wonder if they might forfeit the tax money in order to be in a position to take advantage at the trading deadline and quite possibly be the only game in town. I know it didn't work out last year, but the new CBA adds additional incentives to get payroll lower that weren't there last year. It may not make business sense, but it could make basketball sense in the long run.

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    I know the Spurs need to get up to 90% of the cap in order not to lose tax revenues. So that's about $119 million in salary. However this year is a transition and they would only lose 50% of the tax revenue so I think between 10 and 15 million. If the right deals don't come along this summer to rent cap space and gather some more draft capital I wonder if they might forfeit the tax money in order to be in a position to take advantage at the trading deadline and quite possibly be the only game in town. I know it didn't work out last year, but the new CBA adds additional incentives to get payroll lower that weren't there last year. It may not make business sense, but it could make basketball sense in the long run.
    If the Spurs are desperate to make the salary floor I think I can talk my agent into accepting a one year deal for the shortfall.

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    So now that the draft has happened the roster crunch is going to be a interesting. Everyone’s gonna say they can moved etc but I expect guys like Julian, Mamu, and Barlow to be in the roster next year along with Graham

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    So now that the draft has happened the roster crunch is going to be a interesting. Everyone’s gonna say they can moved etc but I expect guys like Julian, Mamu, and Barlow to be in the roster next year along with Graham
    Good thing about the roster is how everyone has a pretty distinct category. There aren't really any two players developing into the same niche.

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    Markelle Fultz probably getting waived next week, he has only $2,000,000 guaranteed for next season and Orlando just drafted Black... guy starting to come to his own, Spurs atmosphere and timeline might be good for him to realize his potential, unselfish guy and all around player that could fit what we trying to do, might be smart investment to go after him

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    Markelle Fultz probably getting waived next week, he has only $2,000,000 guaranteed for next season and Orlando just drafted Black... guy starting to come to his own, Spurs atmosphere and timeline might be good for him to realize his potential, unselfish guy and all around player that could fit what we trying to do, might be smart investment to go after him
    I think Suggs is more likely the odd man out they try to move on from.

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    I think Suggs is more likely the odd man out they try to move on from.
    I’d get in on that

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    Vanvleet seems to be a realistic target. The Spurs were near the bottom of the league in both 3-pointers made and percentage. Vanvleet will help with floor spacing for Wemby, he’s a high assist-to-turnover player and is a solid defender.

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    FVV
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    That’s a nice like up

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    Vanvleet seems to be a realistic target. The Spurs were near the bottom of the league in both 3-pointers made and percentage. Vanvleet will help with floor spacing for Wemby, he’s a high assist-to-turnover player and is a solid defender.
    before this past season, Vanvleet was actually a good point of attack defender, but his defense totally fell off a cliff this past year. he's still 29 so a bounce back isnt unreasonable... but im also skeptical that he'd be most motivated right after signing a new deal. he also used to at least be an efficient 3pt shooter, but really went full chucker last year.

    if you promised me 2019-2020 Vanvleet, i'd say yeah sure, bring him aboard. but if we are getting something closer to 22-23 Vanvleet, which i imagine would be the case, i'd be terrified of giving him a multiyear deal

    id rather trade for lowry's expiring

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    before this past season, Vanvleet was actually a good point of attack defender, but his defense totally fell off a cliff this past year. he's still 29 so a bounce back isnt unreasonable... but im also skeptical that he'd be most motivated right after signing a new deal. he also used to at least be an efficient 3pt shooter, but really went full chucker last year.

    if you promised me 2019-2020 Vanvleet, i'd say yeah sure, bring him aboard. but if we are getting something closer to 22-23 Vanvleet, which i imagine would be the case, i'd be terrified of giving him a multiyear deal

    id rather trade for lowry's expiring
    Agree. Can’t tell how much of that was him or how much it was the funky stuff going on in Toronto last year. That whole team was off.

    I’d consider a 2+1 deal though.

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    Vanvleet seems to be a realistic target. The Spurs were near the bottom of the league in both 3-pointers made and percentage. Vanvleet will help with floor spacing for Wemby, he’s a high assist-to-turnover player and is a solid defender.
    I am pretty sure he was the one who said " Pop" when he was celebrating with Kawhi so I don't think they will want him just my two cents

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    I am pretty sure he was the one who said " Pop" when he was celebrating with Kawhi so I don't think they will want him just my two cents
    Someone posted a vid showing it was Kawhi's friend who said that. Van Vleet didn't stop the parade to defend Pop, but he's not the one who said it.

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    Lots of scuttlebutt in the podcastesphere today about what SAC might be up to by opening up capspace during the draft.

    If Harrison Barnes is a casualty of that strategy, I’d be interested in bringing him in as a veteran mentor.

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    Not in the weeds of the new CBA, but my understanding is that teams have a salary minimum that they have to now reach.

    Do we know what it is, and, more importantly, how far below the Spurs are at the moment with their projected $26-30M cap space?

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    Someone posted a vid showing it was Kawhi's friend who said that. Van Vleet didn't stop the parade to defend Pop, but he's not the one who said it.
    Vid showed nothing. They pointed cam down so fvv can go rot on a lottery bound team

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    Fred Van Fleet already has a ring. My guess is he goes to the highest bidder and I doubt The Spurs will be offering the biggest bag.

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    Not in the weeds of the new CBA, but my understanding is that teams have a salary minimum that they have to now reach.

    Do we know what it is, and, more importantly, how far below the Spurs are at the moment with their projected $26-30M cap space?
    IF they don't meet it like the Spurs did not last season the team just splits the remainder over the roster.

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