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    Why would Ainge do this?

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    Utah owes its FRP next year to OKC top 10 protected and they're trying to make the playoffs so it conveys. I don't really know how much Collins and his bad contract moves the needle though. Not sure this really changes anything for them in the western conference pecking order

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    How much cap space for ATL now? I don't think anyone would want to actively go there, but money talks

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    How much cap space for ATL now? I don't think anyone would want to actively go there, but money talks
    They have a $25.3 million trade exception.

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    How much cap space for ATL now? I don't think anyone would want to actively go there, but money talks
    theyre still above the cap. but they have access to the full MLE now and a trade exception, if im not mistaken

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    Getting traded for the corpse of Rudy Gay? Ouch. And you have to live and play in Utah? Double ouch

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    Getting traded for the corpse of Rudy Gay? Ouch. And you have to live and play in Utah? Double ouch
    collins was born in utah

    plus their froncourt looks nice tbh

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    Getting traded for Rudy Gay....man I'm glad the Spurs didn't acquire Collins.

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    Getting traded for Rudy Gay....man I'm glad the Spurs didn't acquire Collins.
    Remember when ST was outraged that we signed Zollins, instead of John Collins

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    Remember when ST was outraged that we signed Zollins, instead of John Collins
    Apparently his shooting hand ring finger is permanently messed up, that's why his 3pt% dropped.
    Google it, doesn't look pretty.

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    Not so fast my friend.

    This makes sense. They don't control their own draft in 2025-2027 so they will be in win-now mode until at least 2028.

    What we have to hope for as Spurs fans is that their efforts fail spectacularly. Paying Trae Young $178M over the next 4 years certainly helps our cause.

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    This makes sense. They don't control their own draft in 2025-2027 so they will be in win-now mode until at least 2028.

    What we have to hope for as Spurs fans is that their efforts fail spectacularly. Paying Trae Young $178M over the next 4 years certainly helps our cause.
    also gives them a floor if he's healthy. i dont like him, but he's an offensive engine

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    Not so fast my friend.

    Part of me buys the “he just needs a new situation” argument with this guy. I don’t dislike this for Utah.

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    This makes sense. They don't control their own draft in 2025-2027 so they will be in win-now mode until at least 2028.

    What we have to hope for as Spurs fans is that their efforts fail spectacularly. Paying Trae Young $178M over the next 4 years certainly helps our cause.
    The Hawks have "spectacular fail" written all over them. Let's hope at least.

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    Part of me buys the “he just needs a new situation” argument with this guy. I don’t dislike this for Utah.
    I've watched him a fair bit. He's good not great.
    He can help them, but is the contract worth it...

    It's a close one

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    Not so fast my friend.

    til landry fields is the hawks gm ........the spurs fleece of the hawks trade pics now makes sense.......fields was a spurs scount/front office member........

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    Apparently his shooting hand ring finger is permanently messed up, that's why his 3pt% dropped.
    Google it, doesn't look pretty.
    Dang, you ain't joking; Collins finger is ed up!


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    til landry fields is the hawks gm ........the spurs fleece of the hawks trade pics now makes sense.......fields was a spurs scount/front office member........
    I believe Murray deal was under the previous GM, Schlenk—and it was rumored to have been driven by the owners’ son. But Landry Fields was in favor of doing the deal and he subsequently became the GM once Schlenk resigned/got fired.

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    ^ Correct, and it’s sounds like Schlenk didn’t want to do it. But who knows with narratives these days

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    The Hawks will still likely trade Capela and/or Hunter, but they won't be salary dumps.

    I'd like the fit better for the Jazz if Collins is converted into a 6th man, but as a starter, he'll still be forced into more of a floor spacing than rim running role and Markkanen will continue to be forced to defend SF's.

    ^ Correct, and it’s sounds like Schlenk didn’t want to do it. But who knows with narratives these days
    Yeah, Schlenk came from the Warriors, which means he's probably well connected to and protected by the majority of national media big wigs.

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    Collins isn't a ty player, but at that contract he's a ty player. Don't get these last two moves by him -- Conley and two decent role-players for a single distant first round pick. And then taking on a pretty unmoveable contract for a declining player.

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    Jazz building that front court to battle wemby

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    Jazz building that front court to battle wemby
    With... John Collins?

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    With... John Collins?

    and lauri and kessler apparently

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    and lauri and kessler apparently
    Is this a joke?

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