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    Ayo Donsumu is interesting but doubt the spurs want many projects

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    If I'm the Spurs I'm going after Shake, Thomas, and Plumlee. Shake Milton was really good when harden was out last season. Looked like he could be a starting point guard on another team. Thomas was also good when given a a bigger role in AD absence. Plumlee wood be a good vet to have.
    I'd love Milton, he's been a solid guard for a few years now.

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    Can’t. I believe the Arenas rule states that the first two years have to be at the MLE or below for non Bird FAs of teams over the cap, so, first two years ~$25M, last two years ~$75M. It gives them a chance to match without breaking other cap rules.
    That’s the structure of the offer sheet and if lakers match that is the structure they’re stuck with. But if they don’t match the spurs would get him on a more traditional incremental structure

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    Getting watanabe for a good price would be a dream.

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    That’s the structure of the offer sheet and if lakers match that is the structure they’re stuck with. But if they don’t match the spurs would get him on a more traditional incremental structure
    I'm pretty sure that the offer sheet becomes the contract if LA doesn't match. Why mandate the offer sheet structure if you can just change it later?

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    Seems like the main options for the Spurs are (1) sign a FA to get up to the salary floor or (2) trade for a bad contract to get to the floor.

    A FA would likely have to agree to an inflated one year deal for the Spurs to avoid the "big mistake." Such a player might agree to a one year deal (not ideal for the player) because he would be vastly overpaid for that one year.

    The trade option is also tricky because, again, the Spurs would likely favor a one year deal -- and even bad one year contracts have some value to the team possessing them ("expiring contracts").

    We know the FA list now but what about the bad contract list? Are there any big bad one year contracts that a team would give an asset (draft pick, young player) for the Spurs to take on? Would the Spurs take a bad two year deal, gambling on the idea that they wouldn't need that cap space next year either?

    The next article could be "The Worst Short-Term Bad Contracts the Spurs Could Take On." timvp? (You need to start doing some work around here timvp. )

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    Windy said we would surprise in free agency. Is Austin Reaves offer sheet or resigning Jakob a surprise? Also with Herb RFA, make us prime Jonas dumping ground, some draft asset and/or a flier on someone like Kira.
    This is a catch-all the media loves to say about the Spurs because they run their org like a DOJ investigation. Allows them to look "correct" when we do something.

    I don't think we do anything surprising by ESPN's standards, like an Austin Reaves. But I do think we surprise SpursTalkers by going after "their guy" that we didn't quite anticipate (although timvp's list is quite extensive, great job as always).

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    I anticipate by “surprise,” Windy means people will be surprised the spurs didn’t do anything but give Tre the bag with all their cap space lol

    Plot Twist- the spurs sign Russell Westbrook lol could you imagine
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    If the Knicks sign DiVincenzo, I wonder if Quickley becomes attainable.

    Something like 4/$80M sign and trade, along with Fournier, for Graham, maybe Wesley and one of the lesser 1sts, could work.

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    Bring back Jacob and Cory

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    If the Knicks sign DiVincenzo, I wonder if Quickley becomes attainable.

    Something like 4/$80M sign and trade, along with Fournier, for Graham, maybe Wesley and one of the lesser 1sts, could work.
    They seem pretty high on Quickley, maybe he can be be had in the right package, but I doubt an iffy first, leftovers and a project will do it.

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    On the Windhorst podcast today he doesn’t mention the spurs or anything but does mention that he expects Nola to try to salary dump some guys because if they do resign Herb Jones they’ll be in the luxury tax and they have never payed the luxury tax in team history lol

    Fck it give us Valuncianas and call it a day

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    Getting Brook Lopez is a little surprising. Everyone assume he is going back, but why would he turn down a 50/2 offer. Bud is not there anymore.

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    Here's a nice list of top FAs "broken down by skill set."

    https://www.nba.com/news/breaking-do...ee-agent-class

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    I'm ok with this list. There could be a strategic acquisition or two to be had. I'm of the opinion that Keldon and Devin will both be better around Wemby. Strengthen the center position, add some defense and outside shooting and this team is really pretty compe ive in today's NBA. We've seen that the "big" name players rarely make the team they go to that much better. The Clippers haven't done jack with Kawhi and PG. The Nets (and subsequently the Mavs with Kyrie) couldn't get it done. The Lakers are a joke with AD and Lebron James the supposed GOAT. Even the Warriors were flawed.

    Giannis won a championship as the only star on the Bucks, and the Nuggets did it with the Joker, an all-star level support in Murray and then a bunch of solid role players. I think the Spurs can follow that model. In some ways they'll be forced to, as the big names won't want to buy into San Antonio's culture or system. That said, I'm not sure you need a team with three Hall of Famers to win a championship in today's NBA.

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    They seem pretty high on Quickley, maybe he can be be had in the right package, but I doubt an iffy first, leftovers and a project will do it.
    It'd actually be an extension, not a sign-and-trade, but the rest applies. Maybe the draft capital would need to be slightly better, but they'd be getting out ahead of a looming roster/salary crunch.

    I know the Knicks are high on Quickley, but his role will always be somewhat suppressed with Brunson (former is a combo, but both small guards) and in addition to them, they have Barrett, Grimes, Hart and probably DiVincenzo, all 20+ mpg players with salaries commensurate (save Grimes yet).

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    When does free agency start exactly? July 1st 12am EST?

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    When does free agency start exactly? July 1st 12am EST?
    6 pm EST

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    I anticipate by “surprise,” Windy means people will be surprised the spurs didn’t do anything but give Tre the bag with all their cap space lol

    Plot Twist- the spurs sign Russell Westbrook lol could you imagine
    Honestly I wouldn't be upset at Russell coming here. He looked good with the Clippers.

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    Valanciunas makes sense for both sides

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    https://www.spurstalk.com/spurs-free...s-2023-ranked/

    This was a much more difficult exercise than I imagined when I started writing it. It's an annoyingly weak free agent class, for sure
    Seriously depressing group and write up lmao

    Jak Im down with but only at something like 4/75M or less. He can tell teams 4/80 all he wants but there’s not many teams that can or will pay him that. Spurs can get a good player and spend big if it’s a good value.

    Jak at less than 20M on a declining deal would fit that bill and he could be traded later if need be too. That’s what SA needs to think about. Can use cap space for a bad deal and pick or do what GS did with Russell and sign a good player to be used in trade later too.

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    Jak Im down with but only at something like 4/75M or less. He can tell teams 4/80 all he wants but there’s not many teams that can or will pay him that. Spurs can get a good player and spend big if it’s a good value.
    75/4 is about 19M per year whereas 80/4 is 20M per year, that's 1M a year difference,.. If you're fine with one, you're fine with the other.

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    Trades are where its at this off season IMO

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    That's 75/4 is about 19M per year, whereas 80/4 is 20M per year... that's a 1M difference, if you're fine with one, you're fine with the other.
    Correct. Would 4/80 be end of the world? Of course not. But there’s value and there’s not even if small.

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    Correct. Would 4/80 be end of the world? Of course not. But there’s value and there’s not even if small.
    That's not my point, you can think that's too much... but you can't say 19M per year is fine but 20M isn't, that's chump change in NBA terms.

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