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    I can explain it just fine.

    I'm not going to explain it to you because you're lazy and dim and will pretend I'm making it up because it's so different from what you posted.

    Again, why won't you just look it up?

    Please explain your fears. Maybe we can help you through this difficult time.
    I'm watching the game and it's nearing end. I'm not spending Sunday dancing with you.

    Refute my definition. You stated it's wrong not some online excerpt. Explain your strong reaction. I'll listen and respond like an adult.

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    Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card. If you folks are the smartest people in the room then explain your stance and save the personal attacks.

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    I'm watching the game and it's nearing end. I'm not spending Sunday dancing with you.

    Refute my definition. You stated it's wrong not some online exert. Explain your strong reaction. I'll listen and respond like an adult.
    I did refute it.

    You're wrong.

    You can google it at any time.

    Like an adult.

    Why can't you google it?

    Please explain. You can watch a game and post. You can watch a game and google.

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    Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card. If you folks are the smartest people in the room then explain your stance and save the personal attacks.
    I explained my stance.

    You're wrong.

    Look it up.

    It's waiting for you.

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    Imagine spending your life defending on a message board something you yourself can't explain

    Today's American political culture

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    Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card.
    Lol

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    Imagine spending your life defending on a message board something you yourself can't explain
    you're doing it right now.

    Why can't you simply google the definition for yourself?

    Are you too stupid to do it?

    Are you afraid to find out the truth from the source?

    Explain your inability you are trying to defend.

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    Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card. If you folks are the smartest people in the room then explain your stance and save the personal attacks.
    They don't have facts to stand on so personal attacks is quite frankly all they have. That's why Democrats don't debate and would prefer to bully the other side into submission.

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    They don't have facts
    the fact is there is an actual definition for CRT that you never bothered to learn.

    FOR YEARS.

    Why can't you just look up the definition?

    There's no reason to take my word for it -- this thing exists and is waiting for you.

    If you are too afraid to look up a definition, quite frankly you deserve a personal attack or two -- because if that's the case you are stupid, ignorant and afraid.

    It's easy to prove me wrong -- but you won't.

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    the fact is there is an actual definition for CRT that you never bothered to learn.

    FOR YEARS.

    Why can't you just look up the definition?

    There's no reason to take my word for it -- this thing exists and is waiting for you.

    If you are too afraid to look up a definition, quite frankly you deserve a personal attack or two -- because if that's the case you are stupid, ignorant and afraid.

    It's easy to prove me wrong -- but you won't.
    Tell us then smart guy

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    Chump can't define it

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    So confused what angle he's beating to death. Maybe he believes CRT is about googling definitions?

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    Tell us then smart guy
    Look it up.
    Chump can't define it
    of course I can -- I looked it up.
    So confused what angle he's beating to death. Maybe he believes CRT is about googling definitions?
    you still haven't looked it up.

    What is wrong with you?

    You're a child.

    Look up the definition.

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    This is off the top of my head, but iirc CRT emerged in the 1990s as a subfield of the sociology of law. The gist is that racism is sustained by customs and ins utions rather than individuals. It was never about identifying individuals and making them feel bad for being racist. That in fact misses the point of Critical Race Theory, which instead points to systematic instantiations of race and racism in law, education and criminal justice. In the OG CRT, race and racism are social constructs, not bad character.

    In the current iteration, CRT is anything related to race that annoys conservatives -- a more or less derogatory and formless catchall, plus grandiose delusions of persecution. In its crudest form, anti-CRT is revanchism against civil rights ( i.e, social and legal equality) for nonwhites.
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    CRT is not about making your kid feel bad. By the OG definition, you and your kid don't really have much to do with it.

    Historical/ins utional inertia are the cause, individual bigots are merely a symptom.

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    CRT is not about making your kid feel bad. By the OG definition, you and your kid don't really have much to do with it.

    Historical/ins utional inertia are the cause, individual bigots are merely a symptom.
    Since Chump is going on a weird crusade

    I understand this perspective and in theory it's true. But that's not how it is used by kids/bullies and portrayed by our media - aka "Systematic racism". It's too much all at once. If we accept the System is okay then I am okay with accepting such theories.

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    Since Chump is going on a weird crusade

    I understand this perspective and in theory it's true. But that's not how it is used by kids/bullies and portrayed by our media - aka "Systematic racism". It's too much all at once. If we accept the System is okay then I am okay with accepting such theories.
    I don't think a system that results in racial subjugation is ok, do you?

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    I don't think a system that results in racial subjugation is ok, do you?
    There are certaintly examples of prejudice, racism, murder because of those. But do I feel USA in 2023 is racist? No. Considering how unbelievably diverse this nation is, I think it overall handles itself well.

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    There are certaintly examples of prejudice, racism, murder because of those. But do I feel USA in 2023 is racist? No. Considering how unbelievably diverse this nation is, I think it overall handles itself well.
    Well, if you think the USA is racism-free, then there can't possibly be anything more to it.

    QED

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    Well, if you think the USA is racism-free, then there can't possibly be anything more to it.

    QED
    Okay

    You did specifically ask about Systematic and I didn't address that. To the Democrats credit (which I supported) I think there have been great steps taken towards eliminating this. I do find it annoying that each online job application I fill out asks about my gender, race, veteran & disability. I started to decline to answer gender/race and maybe got more action.

    Now onto racism in the community. I didn't say 100% free. It's all relative. USA is experiencing another massive demographic shift and this includes Asians overtaking Blacks. You notice the hate crimes increasing within these two. Do most mass political shooters end up being white (supremastic)? Yes i'll admit and agree to this. Now what is the solution? I think an overall campaign to support America and our values/dreams would be best. Strengthen who we are, don't necessarily look for one demographic to blame.

    I'll give you some insight. White racists aren't so dumb. They foresee what's on the horizon. Most just want their neighbor to love this country too (with all it's faults). Hard working Juan with Catholic background & big family isn't their concern.

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    "Don't blame white supremacist mass murderers, support American values instead" is a great slogan for your side. I think you should stick with that and repeat it often.

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    Hard working Ahmed going to the Mosque, big family and avoiding pork at the BBQ isn't a concern either. It's about respect & class. Hard work. I'm not saying white conservatives are all this but also don't think it's about color or religion.

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    We know racism is taught. CRT was designed to instill racism at the age of adolescence.

    "Triggered Conservatives" don't want their children to be indoctrinated when they send them to school to learn how to read and write.

    2+2 does not equal reparations.

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    "Don't blame white supremacist mass murderers, support American values instead" is a great slogan for your side. I think you should stick with that and repeat it often.
    Let's be honest, most minorities fear the financial murder not the political one.

    America still has very attractive values. Yes beyond just $$$. We should highlight those. But I guess that's the crossroads - what values and what is means to be "American"

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    CRT wasn't designed for primary education, it's taught in law schools. Y'all just don't like US history that includes civil rights and the long tradition of racial subjugation it includes. Normative legal and social equality for nonwhites is about 60 years old in the USA. Practically, we never got there.

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