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    With Mavericks not getting the Portland player and now can sign Grant Williams straight forward with the MLE, could it be they void the trade?
    If it's been sent into the league office and gotten approval then no.

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    If it's been sent into the league office and gotten approval then no.
    It's not official yet

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    the amount grant williams agreed to is more than the MLE
    54m/4 years is MLE money

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    It's not official yet
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the league office can void the trade for a variety of reasons (similar to when they voided the Chris Paul trade that would have sent him to the Lakers). However, I don't think that any of the involved teams can void it at this point.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the league office can void the trade for a variety of reasons (similar to when they voided the Chris Paul trade that would have sent him to the Lakers). However, I don't think that any of the involved teams can void it at this point.
    the trade might not be formally submitted to the league office yet. its not a matter of the league or the mavs voiding the trade, but rather the mavs reneging on a trade agreement with two other teams

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    54m/4 years is MLE money
    it exceeds it but not by much. full MLE is 4/53.3 or something thereabouts

    even if it was exactly for the MLE, if dallas renegs, they run the risk of boston matching the offer. boston was given second round picks as part of the agreement to let dallas have him. boston could then tell dallas that if they want grant williams, theyre gonna have to give them the agreed upon compensation anyway. if dallas refuses, then they're stuck with no grant williams, no thybulle, and the full MLE going to waste. all while retaining a disgruntled bullock who they apparently dont want anyway, and making themselves look like awful trade partners to the rest of the league

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    the trade might not be formally submitted to the league office yet. its not a matter of the league or the mavs voiding the trade, but rather the mavs reneging on a trade agreement with two other teams
    That's fair. I was assuming it had already been submitted to the league and they were waiting on them to finalize it.

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    That's fair. I was assuming it had already been submitted to the league and they were waiting on them to finalize it.
    yeah, im not sure how long it takes the league to process moves, i assumed it would be fairly quick once they get the paperwork from the clubs

    as far as the league vetoing the CP3 trade, that was a pretty wild cir stance because at the time the new orleans hornets were owned by the NBA and then-commissioner David Stern was the de facto president of basketball operations for the club.

    supposedly the GM of the hornets agreed to the deal before getting approval from stern, which led to the mixup

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    I can't quite resist the urge to nitpick here. If the Spurs have a worse record than the Mavs in 2029-2030, the Spurs could still use the swap if both the Mavs and Spurs are lottery teams and the Mavs jump into the top 4 while the Spurs don't.

    It's an edge case but could end up being important.
    Touché.

    I should have referred to draft position as opposed to overall record. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Imagine in 2030 coming off a championship parade and getting the first overall pick on the next draft.
    Got it

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    Brian Wright is definitely getting better at his job as he moves forward. It seems like he has the forward thinking vision of RC, but is actually a little more open to taking risks, which maybe isn’t that hard of a hurdle to overcome compared to RC, but nonetheless, I definitely like the direction he’s going with the team. It seems that they set their limit and boundaries and don’t budge perhaps but then move when they feel ready. They don’t seem to be losing any trades. And Wright is better at rebuilding then I first thought. Once he helped Pop get his record, he really got to do his thing.

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    Is it actually a 1st rounder? That tweet didn’t specify 1st or 2nd.
    I assume unprotected means it’s a first.

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    yeah, im not sure how long it takes the league to process moves, i assumed it would be fairly quick once they get the paperwork from the clubs

    as far as the league vetoing the CP3 trade, that was a pretty wild cir stance because at the time the new orleans hornets were owned by the NBA and then-commissioner David Stern was the de facto president of basketball operations for the club.

    supposedly the GM of the hornets agreed to the deal before getting approval from stern, which led to the mixup
    Trades are made by teams conference calling with a League official. If that call has happened, that trade official pending a physical. If they're still negotiating it, they probably haven't made any calls. During the calls teams can alter the deal, though it's not realistic to think there'd be major changes if it got to that point.

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    This trade not becoming officially official is giving me Marcus Morris vibes. Supposedly the Mavs are looking to expand the deal. The Mavs better not back out because this trade was a major win for the Spurs.

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    This trade not becoming officially official is giving me Marcus Morris vibes. Supposedly the Mavs are looking to expand the deal. The Mavs better not back out because this trade was a major win for the Spurs.
    That may be the reason the Mavs back out since they reconsidered that swap with the Spurs.

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    This trade not becoming officially official is giving me Marcus Morris vibes. Supposedly the Mavs are looking to expand the deal. The Mavs better not back out because this trade was a major win for the Spurs.
    I posted elsewhere that Dallas really, really wanted Thybulle before Portland matched. Wild guess is that Portland is getting involved to get him to Dallas in exchange for something.

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    That is to say, one of the reasons Dallas did the Grant Williams sign and trade was to go for Thybulle.

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    I posted elsewhere that Dallas really, really wanted Thybulle before Portland matched. Wild guess is that Portland is getting involved to get him to Dallas in exchange for something.
    Would make sense but Thybulle can't be traded.

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    This trade not becoming officially official is giving me Marcus Morris vibes. Supposedly the Mavs are looking to expand the deal. The Mavs better not back out because this trade was a major win for the Spurs.
    You've had media people quoting you recently. Maybe Cuban has read this thread and didn't like your tone.

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    You've had media people quoting you recently. Maybe Cuban has read this thread and didn't like your tone.

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    Would make sense but Thybulle can't be traded.
    I dint think Portland has officially done anything. Maybe they have by now

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    I guess the only Thybulle matter is a match and that's it.

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    Is this falling through?

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    Never mind, Portland did match

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