Why would Dame want to come to a team that is still rebuilding?
Dame wants to jump on a ready made team that is close to a le and that's not the Spurs. Miami is his desired choice.
Spurs would never make a play to get Dame. That's not how they operate, target disgruntled all stars from other teams.
Spurs build through their draft picks. The only draft day trades(Ok they traded to move up for Leonard but that was years ago) they make are for future draft capital.
The Spurs are very conservative and almost fearful of pulling the trigger on any major trade or FA signing.
Expecting them to trade up in next year's draft to draft one of the top PGs is asking them to go against their character of ultra conservatism. It's best for them to lose enough this year to be assured of being high enough to get their future PG.
Because you visibly don't understand the concept of 'young" and "future" and running an NBA franchise. And you also don't understand the concept of "time line" and then why Lillard (or other marquee FAs) has no business coming here and spurs have no business trading their young players for him...
but that's fascinating how some spurs "fans" will denigrate anything positive about the franchise. Like they don"t want, they're pissed spurs would actually have the best young core in the NBA.
Sochan,vassell,wemby and kj is a nice young "core"
They won't be first rounders. There's a handful of teams, including OKC, BKN, PHO and us, who are sitting on a war chest of first rounders, and no one else has any. Can't squeeze blood from a stone, which is one reason we need to consolidate picks if we have three next year.
What’s the point of your post, Multi? I don’t view timvp as better than any person here. And he’s clearly making a mockery of people, sorry I mean high school kids, who use that word.
Dude is literally making fun of you and you don't catch it.
Cool story.
Went over your head.
An alternative to consolidating the picks is to try and roll them forward. For example, maybe a middling team like Sacramento would want the CHI or TOR pick from the Spurs in return for a pick with the same protections in later years like 2026/27/28.
I don't think it's about what dame wants is where Portland is willing to ship him to. I don't buy that the guy will just sit out if it's not miami. Miami plus Dame minus whatever they have to give up probably doesn't really contend in my opinion. They already lost 2 critical guys via free agency and they are apparently going back to Hero which is actually subtraction by addition.
You're right, the spurs FO typically doesn't' "operate that way" but then again we don't have Timmy Tony Manu to buy us time. Do you remember what it was like to have a playoff team? I always felt optimistic going into the post season. Now it seem like we are going to just wait and see if things work out. Wemby looks to be all world but he also high risk of having a career cut short by injury.
Also, to me it feels like the Spurs already have the dream scenario to take big risks. We have $, draft capital, pretty good to very good young players, AND we already got the pick of all picks in Wemby. Why take the dream route of sitting still and banking on things to work out. Nah... for me they need to go for it. Not necessarily Dame but make something happen. Timmy ringed in what.. year 2? We need to get a star pretty quickly. No one on our current squad has that potential do be at least 99' David Robinson.
If we go your route, gun to the head... when would we start competing for les with this group?
There goes that timeline word again. Can't just sit still and hope it works out. I think under the current status of the organization we can afford to take risks. In the "timeline" of the spurs franchise... i think this might be peak scenario right now to make something happen. I don't think we've ever been positioned like we are right now.
Maybe. Here is what I do know. I see a lot of websites and I hear a lot of people talking about how good Devin is. So then I go back in time on those websites and those people who do those podcast and I try to find clips of them or artciles of them talking about how good Devin is BEFORE the spurs drafted Wemby. Most of the time I can't find even one over a two year span. It's almost like the national media doesn't know about the spurs and so Devin is just the name they gravitate to the most.
Oh we have a good young core that will win 30 games.
But is OKC more talented or is their young core further along on the time line? SGA is too old for consideration here.
Disagree with you on the thread topic but this post is 1000000000% accurate lol
Is Lillard stating / inferring he will sit or is that just clickbait writers?
Does he have a No Trade?
There was a trade that Denver was involved in just before the draft where just that thing happened. Ideally, you'd want four cracks at the pick conveying, so 28 might be too far out, since you can now, and until 1 July next year, only trade out as far as 2030.
May the Spurs need to incorporate both of your thoughts?
Ideally a "Time line" that has players that will fit and grow with Wama is fabulous. Tim Tony Parker in similar form.
But, with todays NBA and the massive player movement and *stars* (legit or not) either pouting their way or legitimately asking their home team to trade them away.....
Might the Spurs have to get in on some of that in the future?
Great if Vasell or Sochan or ___ grows into All Star level. Home grown organic would be the best pot we could toke and make brownie Chips out of.
Or will
If the Warriors implode (don't see that happening next year) and Steffie gets PMSy with Warrior management would you take a Curry in 2025?
We scored so heavily with Robert Horry, Bowen, Kerr for year, Michael Finley before he fleeced us as a Pops Pet.
Can we luck out again with role players? I dunno.
Im glad we got the golden egg in Wemby, but The Pistons are gonna make some noise this year as are the Thunder. Im jealous of the Rockets draft and offseason. Gonna be fun this year.
It will be difficult, but I'd like to see us try to roll forward the CHA pick. Primary reason is I don't think we actually want 3 FRP in any of the years the CHA pick may convey (2024 or 2025 - and in 2025 it has the potential to even by our 4th FRP). I'd like to see us roll the CHA pick forward to a year where we currently only have 1 FRP, so that we can essentially line ourselves up to have 2 FRPs every season going forward. We still won't want to use all those picks, but it avoids have a glut in any one year when teams will know we have to sell and we'll get low-balled on our return.
I say it will be difficult, because the CHA pick is of real risk of not conveying and teams will know that. But even if we could flip it forward for another similarly protected pick in 2028, 2029, 2030... I'd be game for it.
our division is going to be tough
If Favale or any writer had the Spurs young core buried, you wouldn't have been posted it and the usual suspects would be crucifying it if someone else did.
This is mostly about your boy Wembanyama (the same way the Pelicans still are Williamson) and the arbitrary cutoff at 23, leaving out Gilgeous-Alexander who'd easily vault the Thunder to first.
I don't like this for the Toronto or Chicago picks, they have a pretty decent chance of conveying in the lottery and that is rare. A future pick with similar protections doesn't necessarily have the same potential. I would 100% do it with the Charlotte pick though.
It resides in a vacuum solely reflective of the record. It completely disregards the context of the team and motives.
They weren’t trying to maximize wins while only being able to muster 23.
They deliberately played players who were quite ready for the minutes they received. They didn’t optimize lineups for maximum success. They rested injured players longer than normal and allowed players a lot of la ude in exploring the outer limits of what they can and cannot do on the court.
Literally almost every aspect of how the team was run and managed played into deliberately tanking not winning.
I honestly think you’re way smarter than endorsing that post.
Spurs believe exactly the opposite... They litterally said they were gonna do the opposite, and that's what they're gonna do, see what they have, who they'll keep around and then only use their assets to upgrade... Not jumping on the first FA passing by just because they can while Wemby has played 0 NBA games.
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