so wesley will have to beat out vets like Cam Payne and Reggie Bullock for his roster spot
are age, draft capital, and long term cost control all factors in his favor? absolutely
why bullock ? he needs to beat payne or graham imo, pretty sure it's him or graham for the 3rd spot at pgso wesley will have to beat out vets like Cam Payne and Reggie Bullock for his roster spot
are age, draft capital, and long term cost control all factors in his favor? absolutely
because for wesley to make the roster, he probably needs at least two of bullock/osman/payne to get waived
graham does not appear to be at risk of being waived
its unclear exactly how many guys need to be waived/traded until we know what's happening with Cissoko and Barlow, though
So we disagree here, we'll see but imo payne will be our back up pg and graham will be traded or waived.
There are 20 players on the roster counting Barlow and Cissoko but not counting Stevens. Wesley and every other Spur has to beat out at least four guys (Rice is a two-way) to make the roster. People need to stop trying to get cute about this. Barring a trade (that isn't followed up by more deals that bring in other players) the Spurs are going to have to make hard choices. Pretending like they don't won't fix anything
Agreed
a lot about wesley will also depends on barlow accepting another two way, i just don't see the spurs keeping both graham and payne while cutting wesley.
i think people think waiving bullock/osman/payne are easy choices and might be where some of the disconnect is
Can someone who is very smart and knowledgeable about spurs list the 20 players in their expected position and ranking in the roster? Maybe then we can figure out what they are going to do.
spurs will keep bullock and payne imo so it's not easy, as for osman or graham i don't think it's easy but more obvious
again it's just some different ways of thinking about shaping up the roster
if they waive osman/graham/birch that does bring us down to 14
but if cissoko and barlow need to be signed, we'd still have to waive 1 more. then who is it.
obviously, it would be ideal if barlow agrees to a 2-way (at least for now, they can convert it later), and for cissoko to stay under his euro contract for now. not sure what the likelihood is for either of those happening, let alone both
the other preferred solution to just waiving guys would be to find a way to make a consolidation trade.
I said above that a big part of wesley future could be barlow accepting another two way
I think the odd man out is Wesley. I don’t think they want a bunch of young prospects around Wemby anyway. They want a bunch of good complimentary players. The time to try to develop super raw prospects like Wesley is probably over. I’d rather have Osman or Graham, decent three point shooters around Wemby anyway.
Miami is going to need players. They lost two already to FA, and will be on the wrong end of a many to one trade to get Dame. We get Lowry, they get Bullock, Osman, Payne to replace Lowry, and for getting an entire decent bench for one player that has no future there, they get to eat Birch’s deal. We get roster spots enough to sign Sidy, and sign Barlow to an NBA contract instead of a 2way.
Cutting a young player with a rookie contract for below averages vets like osman or graham ( with one year contracts) will be strange and different from what the spurs did last years
With Wemby I expect a different tact. They don’t need to wait around to see if raw prospects develop. It’s pretty clear at this point he’s not going to be the next Kawhi or something. I know he’s young and cheap, but in trade I don’t think he’s worth even a second to another team so he’s pretty much trash at this point unless the spurs spend the years necessary to develop him properly and even then at the end of the day I’m not sure he would move the needle in his prime.
Don't forget about Gorgui.
he's not on the roster and they already renounced his rights
But that's not enough. Adding Graham on that list makes it very hard to see why this would make sense. Why would the Spurs cut so many proven guys for one of their many (many) prospects if that prospect has performed poorly? This year matters, and they have so, so many options for the future. This isn't 2016 anymore. They will cut guys who still have hope. They may dump a future All-Star. happens. This is what happens when you don't consolidate your draft picks.
People are acting like a vet on an expiring deal never plays basketball again after this year. I get valuing a young projects potential but older players are potential contributors past this year too.
Just watched the Wemby games.
Ya i saw a lot of YMCA Kobme chucking by the guards including Wesley.
I don’t think the Spurs plan on keeping more than 1 of the newly aquired players. Otherwise they would‘ve never resigned Mamu. They clearly have a Plan for another trade in place
I’m not so sure Mamu’s spot is secure even with the newly signed contract. Didnt they sign that one power forward last year for $1 million and he was eventually cut? The undersized one. Forgot his name
that’s why i think a trade or two will happen with all the players we are talking about
They will probably cut Wemby so Pop can bring back Forbes, this team needs someone to space the floor
Yeah, I agree I think the Spurs are looking at making one or two trades - But if it doesn't happen then may the best "MAN" win just as long as it's not another Pop midget "Forbes" we need guys who can play team ball but also have talent both on offense and defense.
I agree with Chinook the next couple of years we get our drafts and other teams draft ie. Raptors, Chicago, Atlanta, so hopefully will see our talent pool increase. But as this happens we are going to have to cut bait with certain players and your just going to have to understand that when your pet cats get waived or traded.
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